Fuck you, Ubuntu... Fuck you!

misbehavin

Goddamn... Three times now, I've installed Ubuntu from the Live CD, everytime going off without a hitch, then after reboot, it says "Error 21"...

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

tarnok

I recommend checking the ubuntu forums. There's probably already a sticky about the problem, or someone else with the same problem started a thread with a link to a guide that tells you how to fix it.

The Ubuntu forums can be hard to slog through, but when I installed I eventually found answers to my problems there.

japan

Error 21 means that the bootloader (GRUB) can't find the disk that was specified in the install. Are there other partitions/OSes on the disk?

misbehavin

No, it's a brand-new out of the box SATA drive. And the Ubuntu install doesn't appear to offer a format partition option (unless it does it automatically)...

Hmm...

Dark_Side

You might want to try going to the install again, I'm almost positive every time I have installed ubuntu I have gone through and partitioned the disk for all the proper formats. Although I do believe there is a standard option for partitioning. I imagine if you managed to install the OS all the way through though, partioning may not be your problem.

japan

Out of curiosity, what do you get if you do "fdisk -l" from the command line in the live session?

misbehavin

Problem solved.

I disconnected the SATA drive, did a full install, and then reconnected the drive, and it worked just fine. I'm assuming GRUB was just looking for the wrong drive.

falling_stone

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

Master Computer

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

Alot of stuff can be run very nicely through wine (read: perfectly). I would never give up a windows partition but its nice to have Linux there for work.

rayofash

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

With Wine, you can try. Marathon has Linux versions though, and they work perfectly.

DHS Odium

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

Kind of. You can use Wine in Ubuntu to run Windows programs, though not everything works. Some games work great, others have problems, and some don't run at all. You can see what runs at the Wine website.

There's also Cedega, which has better compatibility for games, but it costs money, whereas Wine is free.

rayofash

DHS Odium wrote: »

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

Kind of. You can use Wine in Ubuntu to run Windows programs, though not everything works. Some games work great, others have problems, and some don't run at all. You can see what runs at the Wine website.

There's also Cedega, which has better compatibility for games, but it costs money, whereas Wine is free.

There's an older version of Cedega released for free on their CVS. But you have to compile it and it's a pain and it doesn't work for everybody (like me).

falling_stone

thanks guys! I'll go researchin,
I'm simply not interested in getting a new computer with Vista on it for the reasons of gaming problems. And a Mac is just so expensive.

cheers

japan

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

Some, but mostly in the same way that you'd play them on Windows: through emulation. DosBox is good for very old games, and Wine can run some Windows games (It can be difficult, though). If you have something specific in mind, there's a compatibility database for Wine, and another for Dosbox. Dosbox also runs in Windows, though, so you might want to check that out first.

cfgauss

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

Well, whoever's told you that is full of crap. Vista runs a lot of things for me that XP had trouble with. The only problem is, if you have the x64 version of Visa, you cannot run 16-bit code anymore without an emulator. But that's not really a problem, since you can just get a windows version of dosbox.

squirly

falling_stone wrote: »

just out of curiousity, as an alternative to Windows, can the Ubuntu OS be used for gaming? Like, specifically, to play classic games like System Shock and Marathon? I've heard that the new Vista OS hates old games.

I'm playing >= 10 year old games on my Vista install.

Just_Bri_Thanks

I wonder if I should go bump the other Ubuntu topic so we have two on the front page.

Dírhael

Why not just use VMWare or Virtual PC to play those old games? That's what I do, and it works perfectly every time (as long as the game doesn't need 3D acceleration).

EDIT: Just to keep on topic, you will get the same GRUB error if you have more than 4 primary partitions on one HDD as well.