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This EA Achievement is brought to you by Old Spice..
Looks like EA is taking the next step and bringing us sponsored 360 achievements. It's small now, only a couple of them, but I bet this is only the beginning and soon we'll be seeing this sort of thing in every game and we won't remember a time where achievements were anything but advertising.
That's a pretty lame way to advertise. I don't think it will catch on. Who's going to get an Old Spice achievement and then subsequently decide that they need Old Spice?
Doh I knew they did something, no idea why I Thought it was the horse armor. Heck I even own oblviion Editing to put in cheatcodes.
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NocrenLt Futz, Back in ActionNorth CarolinaRegistered Userregular
edited July 2007
Not to support this, but those actually sound like stuff you'd hear on regular sports shows doing the play of the week or something.
I just hope for two things:
1. These in-achievement ads stay within context.
2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.
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syndalisGetting ClassyOn the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Teamregular
edited July 2007
And people give Bethesda WAAAAY too much flak for horse armor. They admitted it was wrong and immediately started puuting out great DLC at a good price, including free dungeons and shit.
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Let's play Mario Kart or something...
yeah, EA are looking to exploit any sort of 'revenue stream' (oh, how i despise that phrase) they can get their hands on. It's how they operate. If it meant games could be cheaper, or as you've got developers saying that costs are rising, that they could actually use the money to make bigger and better games, then i don't mind so much. But sadly, we all know in our infinite cynical wisdom, that it's really only going to make EA's executives a bit richer at the end of the year.
I hope it's something that doesn't catch on, or that MS watch over to make sure no-one does anything stupid (like them telling devs to cool off with multiplayer-based achievements).
That's a pretty lame way to advertise. I don't think it will catch on. Who's going to get an Old Spice achievement and then subsequently decide that they need Old Spice?
Who the hell is going to watch an advertisement for a deodorant and actually believe that it will cause women to find you irresistable?
And people give Bethesda WAAAAY too much flak for horse armor. They admitted it was wrong and immediately started puuting out great DLC at a good price, including free dungeons and shit.
Price of Oblivion / number of dungeons << 1 / cost of DLC
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The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
I hope it's something that doesn't catch on, or that MS watch over to make sure no-one does anything stupid (like them telling devs to cool off with multiplayer-based achievements).
they actually did that? THANK GOD, that shit was getting old.
While I find EA's action very lame, the nice thing is that we're in a very self correcting market: if nobody likes what they're doing, nobody buys the game (or the DLC), and EA stops the practice. Look at how quick the cheat code shit went down the crapper.
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?
Wait, take out the question mark. There:
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?
Wait, take out the question mark. There:
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.
That's why.
HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!
cfgauss on
The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?
Wait, take out the question mark. There:
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.
That's why.
HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!
Dammit, that was the ONE refutation I was hoping to avoid, because I really have no argument against that. DAMN YOU!!!
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?
Wait, take out the question mark. There:
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.
That's why.
HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!
By the other advertisements in the game. Duh. How else are you going to get some of your health back other than by taking a refreshing sip of Coca-Cola?
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?
Wait, take out the question mark. There:
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.
That's why.
HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!
By the other advertisements in the game. Duh. How else are you going to get some of your health back other than by taking a refreshing sip of Coca-Cola?
Fallout 3 achievement:
Name: "Drink some Nuka-Cola!" B]10G[/B
Description: "Drink some Nuka-Cola! (this achievement paid for by the Coca-Cola Corporation (tm) of America and The Committee For Rotting Teeth And Addicting People To Sugary Things, LLC)."
Name: "Get addicted to Nuka-Cola!" B]100G[/B
Description: "Get addicted to Nuka-Cola by drinking it NON-STOP!!!!! (this achievement paid for by the Coca-Cola Corporation (tm) of America and The Committee For Rotting Teeth And Addicting People To Sugary Things, LLC)."
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SirUltimosDon't talk, Rusty. Just paint.Registered Userregular
edited July 2007
Someone needs to post the "Ach, Mein Thirsten!" comic.
And they still treat their workers like cattle and the industry like a giant crank wheel, so I'll go ahead and suggest that NOT hating on EA is retarded.
I'd be offended if it wasn't poetically hilarious.
Speaking of which, a year ago or so, all EBGames got promotional boxes of some kind of deoderant or soap that we were suppose to put in every bag or something. Within a day of getting the stuff, we were told to throw it all out because the company thought that by giving out soap we were insinuating that our customers were dirty and smelled.
They have been putting out some very high quality games lately, and publishing some even better ones.
For example, such fine, ground-breaking games as:
FIFA '94
FIFA '96
FIFA '97
FIFA '98
FIFA '99
FIFA '00
FIFA '01
FIFA '02
FIFA '03
FIFA '04
FIFA '05
FIFA '06
FIFA '07
FIFA '08
FIFA World Cup: Germany 2006
FIFA Street
FIFA Street 2
FIFA Soccer Manager
Madden Football 64
Madden NFL 06
Madden NFL 07
Madden NFL '94
Madden NFL '95
Madden NFL '96
Madden NFL '97
Madden NFL '98
Madden NFL '99
Madden NFL 2000
Madden NFL 2001
Madden NFL 2002
Madden NFL 2003
Madden NFL 2004
Madden NFL 2005
Madden NFL 2005 (Collector's Edition)
NASCAR '98
NASCAR '99
NASCAR 2000
NASCAR 2001
NASCAR Road Racing
NASCAR Rumble
NASCAR Thunder 2003
NASCAR Thunder 2004
NBA......
....
....
NCAA....
....
....
WHAT A TRULY AMAZING AND INNOVATIVE COMPANY!
It's not at all like they're a soulless whore mindlessly making the same games over and over again!
cfgauss on
The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
He said high quality. High quality requires at least some innovation.
cfgauss on
The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
He said high quality. High quality requires at least some innovation.
New Super Mario Brothers was the height of innovation then was it?
Each new mario game has actually added new things to the genera, you know. There's a much bigger difference between NES mario and N64 mario than there is between NES Madden and any other version of Madden that will ever be made.
cfgauss on
The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
my only real fear for this, i suppose, would be that rather than trying to make achievements fun, they'd start looking for ways to shape them round the products being advertised. While i'm not much of an achievement whore (i tend to use them as a guide for things to do in a game, fun suggestions, and if they don't fall under that, i'll ignore them), it would frustrate me no end to see some of the big points being handed out for "chugging 10,000 Sprites" in GTA or something (i just picked a hypothetical example, don't flame me for it).
And yeah, i thought that after the Gears of War online-based achievements complaints, MS said that games should feature a heavier bias towards ones achievable offline, rather than the mass of online ones that Gears had.
edit: and yes, i was quite cynical about EA too, but they've actually got an impressive looking lineup of original games either out, or coming out soon.
So, yeah, this is retarded. The achievements don't even have anything to do with the product, they just threw the name in there to make a quick buck. EA has no integrity whatsoever.
I'm indifferent over it. I don't like achievements anyway, so I guess I can be sort of happy that this might sour some people's feelings over them.
So because you don't like Achievements, you want everyone who does to suffer? Nice.
Back on topic, meh. I already don't buy EA games, and this is another reason why I shouldn't. Just when you think EA can't come up with another annoying and intrusive way to rape your mind and wallet... they find a way.
I'm indifferent over it. I don't like achievements anyway, so I guess I can be sort of happy that this might sour some people's feelings over them.
So because you don't like Achievements, you want everyone who does to suffer? Nice.
Wait, are you actually saying people would suffer because of this? We're talking minor annoyance over something that people who get enough reward out of playing the game for the game's sake won't even notice.
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2K had the horse armor. EA was charging for cheat codes.
you.. do know they didn't do the famous horse armour, right?
I just hope for two things:
1. These in-achievement ads stay within context.
2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
I hope it's something that doesn't catch on, or that MS watch over to make sure no-one does anything stupid (like them telling devs to cool off with multiplayer-based achievements).
I'm sure they'll hand down the savings to the average consumer.
Who the hell is going to watch an advertisement for a deodorant and actually believe that it will cause women to find you irresistable?
You mean, "EA are just being idiots with everything they've ever done and ever will do, ever," right?
Price of Oblivion / number of dungeons << 1 / cost of DLC
I agree with your first sentence, but I really, really doubt the price of these games are going to go down because of this.
Hahahaha. EA lowering game prices? They would charge 100 bucks per game if they thought other publishers would follow suit.
Keep a-dreamin', Nocren.
they actually did that? THANK GOD, that shit was getting old.
While I find EA's action very lame, the nice thing is that we're in a very self correcting market: if nobody likes what they're doing, nobody buys the game (or the DLC), and EA stops the practice. Look at how quick the cheat code shit went down the crapper.
I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?
Wait, take out the question mark. There:
Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.
That's why.
HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!
Dammit, that was the ONE refutation I was hoping to avoid, because I really have no argument against that. DAMN YOU!!!
By the other advertisements in the game. Duh. How else are you going to get some of your health back other than by taking a refreshing sip of Coca-Cola?
Fallout 3 achievement:
Name: "Drink some Nuka-Cola!" B]10G[/B
Description: "Drink some Nuka-Cola! (this achievement paid for by the Coca-Cola Corporation (tm) of America and The Committee For Rotting Teeth And Addicting People To Sugary Things, LLC)."
Name: "Get addicted to Nuka-Cola!" B]100G[/B
Description: "Get addicted to Nuka-Cola by drinking it NON-STOP!!!!! (this achievement paid for by the Coca-Cola Corporation (tm) of America and The Committee For Rotting Teeth And Addicting People To Sugary Things, LLC)."
They have been putting out some very high quality games lately, and publishing some even better ones.
How's that?
Hehehe.
I'd be offended if it wasn't poetically hilarious.
Speaking of which, a year ago or so, all EBGames got promotional boxes of some kind of deoderant or soap that we were suppose to put in every bag or something. Within a day of getting the stuff, we were told to throw it all out because the company thought that by giving out soap we were insinuating that our customers were dirty and smelled.
For example, such fine, ground-breaking games as:
FIFA '94
FIFA '96
FIFA '97
FIFA '98
FIFA '99
FIFA '00
FIFA '01
FIFA '02
FIFA '03
FIFA '04
FIFA '05
FIFA '06
FIFA '07
FIFA '08
FIFA World Cup: Germany 2006
FIFA Street
FIFA Street 2
FIFA Soccer Manager
Madden Football 64
Madden NFL 06
Madden NFL 07
Madden NFL '94
Madden NFL '95
Madden NFL '96
Madden NFL '97
Madden NFL '98
Madden NFL '99
Madden NFL 2000
Madden NFL 2001
Madden NFL 2002
Madden NFL 2003
Madden NFL 2004
Madden NFL 2005
Madden NFL 2005 (Collector's Edition)
NASCAR '98
NASCAR '99
NASCAR 2000
NASCAR 2001
NASCAR Road Racing
NASCAR Rumble
NASCAR Thunder 2003
NASCAR Thunder 2004
NBA......
....
....
NCAA....
....
....
WHAT A TRULY AMAZING AND INNOVATIVE COMPANY!
It's not at all like they're a soulless whore mindlessly making the same games over and over again!
He said high quality. High quality requires at least some innovation.
New Super Mario Brothers was the height of innovation then was it?
Each new mario game has actually added new things to the genera, you know. There's a much bigger difference between NES mario and N64 mario than there is between NES Madden and any other version of Madden that will ever be made.
As in Bruce Campbell isn't enough of a reason already
And yeah, i thought that after the Gears of War online-based achievements complaints, MS said that games should feature a heavier bias towards ones achievable offline, rather than the mass of online ones that Gears had.
edit: and yes, i was quite cynical about EA too, but they've actually got an impressive looking lineup of original games either out, or coming out soon.
So because you don't like Achievements, you want everyone who does to suffer? Nice.
Back on topic, meh. I already don't buy EA games, and this is another reason why I shouldn't. Just when you think EA can't come up with another annoying and intrusive way to rape your mind and wallet... they find a way.
Wait, are you actually saying people would suffer because of this? We're talking minor annoyance over something that people who get enough reward out of playing the game for the game's sake won't even notice.