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This EA Achievement is brought to you by Old Spice..

Lord JezoLord Jezo Registered User regular
edited July 2007 in Games and Technology
So have we all read this yet?

Advertising coming to Xbox 360 achievements


Looks like EA is taking the next step and bringing us sponsored 360 achievements. It's small now, only a couple of them, but I bet this is only the beginning and soon we'll be seeing this sort of thing in every game and we won't remember a time where achievements were anything but advertising.

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  • Ziac45Ziac45 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    EA are just being idiots with alot of the stuff they do on the X box.Cheat codes(edit), and now this..

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    That's a pretty lame way to advertise. I don't think it will catch on. Who's going to get an Old Spice achievement and then subsequently decide that they need Old Spice?

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ziac45 wrote: »
    EA are just being idiots with alot of the stuff they do on the X box. horse Armor, and now this..

    2K had the horse armor. EA was charging for cheat codes.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ziac45 wrote: »
    EA are just being idiots with alot of the stuff they do on the X box. horse Armor, and now this..

    you.. do know they didn't do the famous horse armour, right?

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  • Ziac45Ziac45 Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Doh I knew they did something, no idea why I Thought it was the horse armor. Heck I even own oblviion Editing to put in cheatcodes.

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Not to support this, but those actually sound like stuff you'd hear on regular sports shows doing the play of the week or something.

    I just hope for two things:
    1. These in-achievement ads stay within context.
    2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    edited July 2007
    And people give Bethesda WAAAAY too much flak for horse armor. They admitted it was wrong and immediately started puuting out great DLC at a good price, including free dungeons and shit.

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    yeah, EA are looking to exploit any sort of 'revenue stream' (oh, how i despise that phrase) they can get their hands on. It's how they operate. If it meant games could be cheaper, or as you've got developers saying that costs are rising, that they could actually use the money to make bigger and better games, then i don't mind so much. But sadly, we all know in our infinite cynical wisdom, that it's really only going to make EA's executives a bit richer at the end of the year.
    I hope it's something that doesn't catch on, or that MS watch over to make sure no-one does anything stupid (like them telling devs to cool off with multiplayer-based achievements).

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  • KrunkMcGrunkKrunkMcGrunk Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Nocren wrote: »
    Not to support this, but those actually sound like stuff you'd hear on regular sports shows doing the play of the week or something.

    I just hope for two things:
    1. These in-achievement ads stay within context.
    2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.

    I'm sure they'll hand down the savings to the average consumer.

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    That's a pretty lame way to advertise. I don't think it will catch on. Who's going to get an Old Spice achievement and then subsequently decide that they need Old Spice?

    Who the hell is going to watch an advertisement for a deodorant and actually believe that it will cause women to find you irresistable?

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  • cfgausscfgauss Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ziac45 wrote: »
    EA are just being idiots with alot of the stuff they do on the X box.Cheat codes(edit), and now this..

    You mean, "EA are just being idiots with everything they've ever done and ever will do, ever," right?
    syndalis wrote: »
    And people give Bethesda WAAAAY too much flak for horse armor. They admitted it was wrong and immediately started puuting out great DLC at a good price, including free dungeons and shit.

    Price of Oblivion / number of dungeons << 1 / cost of DLC

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Nocren wrote: »
    Not to support this, but those actually sound like stuff you'd hear on regular sports shows doing the play of the week or something.

    I just hope for two things:
    1. These in-achievement ads stay within context.
    2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.


    I agree with your first sentence, but I really, really doubt the price of these games are going to go down because of this.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ranced wrote: »
    Nocren wrote: »
    Not to support this, but those actually sound like stuff you'd hear on regular sports shows doing the play of the week or something.

    I just hope for two things:
    1. These in-achievement ads stay within context.
    2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.


    I agree with your first sentence, but I really, really doubt the price of these games are going to go down because of this.

    Hahahaha. EA lowering game prices? They would charge 100 bucks per game if they thought other publishers would follow suit.

    Keep a-dreamin', Nocren.

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  • devolvedevolve Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    darleysam wrote: »
    I hope it's something that doesn't catch on, or that MS watch over to make sure no-one does anything stupid (like them telling devs to cool off with multiplayer-based achievements).


    they actually did that? THANK GOD, that shit was getting old.




    While I find EA's action very lame, the nice thing is that we're in a very self correcting market: if nobody likes what they're doing, nobody buys the game (or the DLC), and EA stops the practice. Look at how quick the cheat code shit went down the crapper.

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  • LunkerLunker Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
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    I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Lunker wrote: »
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    I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?

    Wait, take out the question mark. There:

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.

    That's why.

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  • cfgausscfgauss Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Drez wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
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    I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?

    Wait, take out the question mark. There:

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.

    That's why.

    HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    cfgauss wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
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    I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?

    Wait, take out the question mark. There:

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.

    That's why.

    HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!

    Dammit, that was the ONE refutation I was hoping to avoid, because I really have no argument against that. DAMN YOU!!!

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    cfgauss wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
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    I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?

    Wait, take out the question mark. There:

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.

    That's why.

    HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!

    By the other advertisements in the game. Duh. How else are you going to get some of your health back other than by taking a refreshing sip of Coca-Cola?

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    titmouse wrote: »
    cfgauss wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Lunker wrote: »
    mdach2cc6.jpg

    I really can't get worked up over this. The biggest argument I've seen against in-game advertising is that it draws you out of the game world, which is something Achievements already do now. And chasing after ludicrous Achievements is pretty much whoring anyway, so why not whore the whorers? (Or would players be "whorees"?)

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement?

    Wait, take out the question mark. There:

    Because people don't play games to achieve an advertisement.

    That's why.

    HOW ELSE AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHAT TO DRINK??!?!?!?!

    By the other advertisements in the game. Duh. How else are you going to get some of your health back other than by taking a refreshing sip of Coca-Cola?

    Fallout 3 achievement:

    Name: "Drink some Nuka-Cola!" B]10G[/B
    Description: "Drink some Nuka-Cola! (this achievement paid for by the Coca-Cola Corporation (tm) of America and The Committee For Rotting Teeth And Addicting People To Sugary Things, LLC)."

    Name: "Get addicted to Nuka-Cola!" B]100G[/B
    Description: "Get addicted to Nuka-Cola by drinking it NON-STOP!!!!! (this achievement paid for by the Coca-Cola Corporation (tm) of America and The Committee For Rotting Teeth And Addicting People To Sugary Things, LLC)."

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Someone needs to post the "Ach, Mein Thirsten!" comic.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Hating on EA is retarded.

    They have been putting out some very high quality games lately, and publishing some even better ones.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    And they still treat their workers like cattle and the industry like a giant crank wheel, so I'll go ahead and suggest that NOT hating on EA is retarded.

    How's that?

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Nocren wrote: »
    2. With all these ads, games will start costing less finally.


    Hehehe.

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  • MonoxideMonoxide Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    I think I'll go get a Mountain Dew while I decide how I feel about this...

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Advertising deodorant to gamers...

    I'd be offended if it wasn't poetically hilarious.

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  • YodaTunaYodaTuna Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Advertising deodorant to gamers...

    I'd be offended if it wasn't poetically hilarious.

    Speaking of which, a year ago or so, all EBGames got promotional boxes of some kind of deoderant or soap that we were suppose to put in every bag or something. Within a day of getting the stuff, we were told to throw it all out because the company thought that by giving out soap we were insinuating that our customers were dirty and smelled.

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  • cfgausscfgauss Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Hating on EA is retarded.

    They have been putting out some very high quality games lately, and publishing some even better ones.

    For example, such fine, ground-breaking games as:
    FIFA '94
    FIFA '96
    FIFA '97
    FIFA '98
    FIFA '99
    FIFA '00
    FIFA '01
    FIFA '02
    FIFA '03
    FIFA '04
    FIFA '05
    FIFA '06
    FIFA '07
    FIFA '08
    FIFA World Cup: Germany 2006
    FIFA Street
    FIFA Street 2
    FIFA Soccer Manager
    Madden Football 64
    Madden NFL 06
    Madden NFL 07
    Madden NFL '94
    Madden NFL '95
    Madden NFL '96
    Madden NFL '97
    Madden NFL '98
    Madden NFL '99
    Madden NFL 2000
    Madden NFL 2001
    Madden NFL 2002
    Madden NFL 2003
    Madden NFL 2004
    Madden NFL 2005
    Madden NFL 2005 (Collector's Edition)
    NASCAR '98
    NASCAR '99
    NASCAR 2000
    NASCAR 2001
    NASCAR Road Racing
    NASCAR Rumble
    NASCAR Thunder 2003
    NASCAR Thunder 2004
    NBA......
    ....
    ....
    NCAA....
    ....
    ....

    WHAT A TRULY AMAZING AND INNOVATIVE COMPANY!
    It's not at all like they're a soulless whore mindlessly making the same games over and over again!

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  • RancedRanced Default Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    but i don't think he said innovative!

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  • cfgausscfgauss Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Ranced wrote: »
    but i don't think he said innovative!

    He said high quality. High quality requires at least some innovation.

    cfgauss on
    The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
  • BigDesBigDes Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    cfgauss wrote: »
    Ranced wrote: »
    but i don't think he said innovative!

    He said high quality. High quality requires at least some innovation.

    New Super Mario Brothers was the height of innovation then was it?

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  • cfgausscfgauss Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    BigDes wrote: »
    cfgauss wrote: »
    Ranced wrote: »
    but i don't think he said innovative!

    He said high quality. High quality requires at least some innovation.

    New Super Mario Brothers was the height of innovation then was it?

    Each new mario game has actually added new things to the genera, you know. There's a much bigger difference between NES mario and N64 mario than there is between NES Madden and any other version of Madden that will ever be made.

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    The hero and protagonist, whose story the book follows, is the aptly-named Hiro Protagonist: "Last of the freelance hackers and Greatest sword fighter in the world." When Hiro loses his job as a pizza delivery driver for the Mafia, he meets a streetwise young girl nicknamed Y.T. (short for Yours Truly), who works as a skateboard "Kourier", and they decide to become partners in the intelligence business.
  • jimenexjimenex Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    YodaTuna wrote: »
    Who's going to get an Old Spice achievement and then subsequently decide that they need Old Spice?

    As in Bruce Campbell isn't enough of a reason already

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  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    my only real fear for this, i suppose, would be that rather than trying to make achievements fun, they'd start looking for ways to shape them round the products being advertised. While i'm not much of an achievement whore (i tend to use them as a guide for things to do in a game, fun suggestions, and if they don't fall under that, i'll ignore them), it would frustrate me no end to see some of the big points being handed out for "chugging 10,000 Sprites" in GTA or something (i just picked a hypothetical example, don't flame me for it).

    And yeah, i thought that after the Gears of War online-based achievements complaints, MS said that games should feature a heavier bias towards ones achievable offline, rather than the mass of online ones that Gears had.

    edit: and yes, i was quite cynical about EA too, but they've actually got an impressive looking lineup of original games either out, or coming out soon.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    So, yeah, this is retarded. The achievements don't even have anything to do with the product, they just threw the name in there to make a quick buck. EA has no integrity whatsoever.

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I'm indifferent over it. I don't like achievements anyway, so I guess I can be sort of happy that this might sour some people's feelings over them.

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  • The Crowing OneThe Crowing One Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    /projectile vomit.

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  • EvangirEvangir Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    drhazard wrote: »
    I'm indifferent over it. I don't like achievements anyway, so I guess I can be sort of happy that this might sour some people's feelings over them.

    So because you don't like Achievements, you want everyone who does to suffer? Nice.

    Back on topic, meh. I already don't buy EA games, and this is another reason why I shouldn't. Just when you think EA can't come up with another annoying and intrusive way to rape your mind and wallet... they find a way.

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  • EvanderEvander Disappointed Father Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    yeah, and people still ask me to explain my EA boycott to them...

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  • drhazarddrhazard Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Evangir wrote: »
    drhazard wrote: »
    I'm indifferent over it. I don't like achievements anyway, so I guess I can be sort of happy that this might sour some people's feelings over them.

    So because you don't like Achievements, you want everyone who does to suffer? Nice.

    Wait, are you actually saying people would suffer because of this? We're talking minor annoyance over something that people who get enough reward out of playing the game for the game's sake won't even notice.

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