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Hitman Trilogy

A-RodA-Rod Registered User regular
edited September 2007 in Games and Technology
I loved the hitman series, and never bought any of the games but rented all. Now walking by a videogame store I saw on the shelf all 3 hitman games (excluding the 1st game) wrapped into one nice little bundle.

I was thinking of picking it up, since its been a while since I played through them, but did they actually do anything to the older 2 games to pick away at the bugs? Anyone know?

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    I don't know anything about the trilogy package but if you haven't played the fourth you should get on that.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited July 2007
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Tube has... issues with the Game That Must Not Be Named.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I've never played any of them, but $10 a shot seems like a steal.

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  • A-RodA-Rod Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yes I have played all the games EXCEPT the very first game that was on the pc only. It kept crashing on me and I had a shitty computer at the time, so it was returned.

    I have played the last 3, and I love them. I just hope that they fixed any silly things in the earlier ones like how if I start running indoors everyone starts shooting at me for some reason. But seeing that its less expensive to buy the bundle than if I were to rent all 3 again, I think ill be purchasing it.

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  • RohanRohan Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I thought the first three were awkward and overly difficult, but the fourth, Blood Money, was damn near perfect. I'm looking forward to the next game.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    A-Rod wrote: »
    Yes I have played all the games EXCEPT the very first game that was on the pc only. It kept crashing on me and I had a shitty computer at the time, so it was returned.

    I have played the last 3, and I love them. I just hope that they fixed any silly things in the earlier ones like how if I start running indoors everyone starts shooting at me for some reason. But seeing that its less expensive to buy the bundle than if I were to rent all 3 again, I think ill be purchasing it.

    I wouldn't get my hopes up. Such compilations rarely change anything about games. The GTA 3-pack didn't even fix the critical Hoods bug in GTA3, nor did it make the special vehicle missions and less ridiculously hard and broken. So if you buy it, I'd tell you to keep expecting to have ninjas run over by trucks, stopping all circulation in the level.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Rohan wrote: »
    I thought the first three were awkward and overly difficult, but the fourth, Blood Money, was damn near perfect. I'm looking forward to the next game.

    My only problem with Blood Money is that it was too easy unless you were concentrating on getting a high rating. In most levels it's pretty easy to just walk in with upgraded silverballers and body armour and murder everyone in the building. I think the game should make that alternative ridiculous by making it unfeasible.

    However, the difficulty drop came with a wider scope of possible solutions to each level, which was a good tradeoff in many ways. You still have to actively think of a solution, which I love doing. My favourite is still the exploding suitcase, which I used in every possible level.

    My hope is that there is a Hitman in 2008, and it has multiplayer. Various assassins camouflaging themselves and trying to get to the target before the others, acting like AIs to blend in, and trying to kill the others and not get killed on the way. It would be genius.

    Add a cover system like in Rainbow 6 Vegas and you'd have a rather epic game, but that's just too much to hope for.

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  • Original RufusOriginal Rufus Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I really dug Hitman 2.

    Some of the levels sucked ass, but then, some of them were fantastic. There's a good, mediocre middle ground to be enjoyed.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Rohan wrote: »
    I thought the first three were awkward and overly difficult, but the fourth, Blood Money, was damn near perfect. I'm looking forward to the next game.

    My only problem with Blood Money is that it was too easy unless you were concentrating on getting a high rating. In most levels it's pretty easy to just walk in with upgraded silverballers and body armour and murder everyone in the building. I think the game should make that alternative ridiculous by making it unfeasible.

    However, the difficulty drop came with a wider scope of possible solutions to each level, which was a good tradeoff in many ways. You still have to actively think of a solution, which I love doing. My favourite is still the exploding suitcase, which I used in every possible level.

    My hope is that there is a Hitman in 2008, and it has multiplayer. Various assassins camouflaging themselves and trying to get to the target before the others, acting like AIs to blend in, and trying to kill the others and not get killed on the way. It would be genius.

    Add a cover system like in Rainbow 6 Vegas and you'd have a rather epic game, but that's just too much to hope for.


    Sure if you play it insanely then you can be like that guy who did the speedruns, totally obliterating targets without alarm in seconds. But finding the good ways to do it is always fun. And just shooting everyone in the face is a bit straight forward and dull.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, I only did the maniacally-kill-everyone run on one level, the boat, because I wanted to see how difficult it was. It was pretty easy at that point, with two silverballers that fling corpses a few yards every time you shoot them. Kinda fun but not how you'd want to play the game.

    The main cause of the game's low difficulty is that you can pretty much unabashedly walk in, kill a guy, take his clothes, walk a bit further, kiill another guy, take his clothes, all the way to the target, without thinking about it too much. Killing extra people drops your score pretty quickly, but to just beat the level it's pretty easy to get whatever clothes you need with a few shots or garrotes. I find that really isn't the case in Contracts, which I'm playing through now. The AI in Blood Money is a bunch of bumblers who don't react if you walk into the bathroom with them, close the door, and take out your fiber wire. In Contracts people get suspicious if I run too much.

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  • BlueDestinyBlueDestiny Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, I only did the maniacally-kill-everyone run on one level, the boat, because I wanted to see how difficult it was. It was pretty easy at that point, with two silverballers that fling corpses a few yards every time you shoot them. Kinda fun but not how you'd want to play the game.

    The main cause of the game's low difficulty is that you can pretty much unabashedly walk in, kill a guy, take his clothes, walk a bit further, kiill another guy, take his clothes, all the way to the target, without thinking about it too much. Killing extra people drops your score pretty quickly, but to just beat the level it's pretty easy to get whatever clothes you need with a few shots or garrotes. I find that really isn't the case in Contracts, which I'm playing through now. The AI in Blood Money is a bunch of bumblers who don't react if you walk into the bathroom with them, close the door, and take out your fiber wire. In Contracts people get suspicious if I run too much.

    Well, in Blood Money it all depends on if you were spotted before you beat the level, especially on CCTV. It raises the suspicion meter for the rest of the next level permanently, so pretty soon you can't run or do anything odd in a costume.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Yeah, I only did the maniacally-kill-everyone run on one level, the boat, because I wanted to see how difficult it was. It was pretty easy at that point, with two silverballers that fling corpses a few yards every time you shoot them. Kinda fun but not how you'd want to play the game.

    The main cause of the game's low difficulty is that you can pretty much unabashedly walk in, kill a guy, take his clothes, walk a bit further, kiill another guy, take his clothes, all the way to the target, without thinking about it too much. Killing extra people drops your score pretty quickly, but to just beat the level it's pretty easy to get whatever clothes you need with a few shots or garrotes. I find that really isn't the case in Contracts, which I'm playing through now. The AI in Blood Money is a bunch of bumblers who don't react if you walk into the bathroom with them, close the door, and take out your fiber wire. In Contracts people get suspicious if I run too much.

    Well, in Blood Money it all depends on if you were spotted before you beat the level, especially on CCTV. It raises the suspicion meter for the rest of the next level permanently, so pretty soon you can't run or do anything odd in a costume.

    Well, it raises your notoriety, but you can lower that with bribes, and since upgrading your combat weapons in a stealth game isn't really necessary (beyond silencers and such) the money should be handy.

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  • Dodge AspenDodge Aspen Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    They should release this on Wii.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    They should release this on Wii.

    You just want to garrote people with the nunchuk/wiimote, don't you

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    There was Hitman, Hitman 2, Hitman Contracts, and Hitman Blood Money... so that would be 4. :|

    I've played all on PC except for Blood Money, I guess another game has been added to my list.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited July 2007
    Uh oh!

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Blood Money was fucking fantastic. Bloodmoney is what Contracts should've been. Hitman 2 was crazy hard and hitman 1 isn't worth your time or money.

    Blood Money though, get that shit.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    THIS POST DOES NOT EXIST

    hit the deck sir

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Shogun wrote: »
    Blood Money was fucking fantastic. Bloodmoney is what Contracts should've been. Hitman 2 was crazy hard and hitman 1 isn't worth your time or money.

    Blood Money though, get that shit.

    Really? I liked all of them. I liked the first one, though I felt like there was a lot of the same maps/missions redone in Hitman 2, stilled liked both.

    God I played them all so close together that they amost all melt together when I think back.

    I just really liked 2 different missions, 1 being where I'm in a lobby of some building and the objective was to kill this guy down in the basement in a room with chips everywhere on the floor.

    The other mission I really liked was the hotel level, I think it was in Contracts. I liked how one of the rooms was hanted from a previous murder. :p Don't go in the bathroom of the crime scene, you might see a ghost. :)

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    There was Hitman, Hitman 2, Hitman Contracts, and Hitman Blood Money... so that would be 4. :|

    I've played all on PC except for Blood Money, I guess another game has been added to my list.

    *rushes you in a make-up room, dyes your hair, gives you colored contact lenses, a passport and five thousand dollars* Your name is now Peter MacDonald, you're a Scottish postal worker, you'll be on a plane in five minutes, your family will be told you died.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited July 2007
    WE DO NOT SPEAK OF THAT GAME HERE SIR

    NO SIR WE DO NOT

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    THIS POST DOES NOT EXIST

    hit the deck sir

    I heard in that game, all his disguises stop working and 47 is forced to battle the entire nation of Japan as a result.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I liked silent assassin, it wasn't that bad. It was certainly more consistent than the first game which had some really shitty run+gun levels (mostly in the jungle), although when that game worked, it was very, very good.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Cantido wrote: »
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    THIS POST DOES NOT EXIST

    hit the deck sir

    I heard in that game, all his disguises stop working and 47 is forced to battle the entire nation of Japan as a result.

    That's a huge understatement.

    The guards are paranoid, psychic and are equipped with x-ray nightvision. Not just in the Japanese levels.

    *is stuck on Jacuzzi Job, god wtf, there's a reason I turn off the lights people, it's so the GUARDS DON'T SEE ME. THEY SHOULDN'T.*

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    I liked silent assassin, it wasn't that bad. It was certainly more consistent than the first game which had some really shitty run+gun levels (mostly in the jungle), although when that game worked, it was very, very good.

    The Colombian levels sucked ass, and the last one was pretty stupid, but the Hong Kong missions and the hotel were just the very essence of everything Hitman is and should be.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SimBen wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    THIS POST DOES NOT EXIST

    hit the deck sir

    I heard in that game, all his disguises stop working and 47 is forced to battle the entire nation of Japan as a result.

    That's a huge understatement.

    The guards are paranoid, psychic and are equipped with x-ray nightvision. Not just in the Japanese levels.

    *is stuck on Jacuzzi Job, god wtf, there's a reason I turn off the lights people, it's so the GUARDS DON'T SEE ME. THEY SHOULDN'T.*

    Meh, I liked all the missions except for the entire Japanese campaign, and a certain middle east level (the one with the anti-tank sniper rifle. Yeah, that's real discreet.). All the other missions at least "felt" possible. But those few are just a clusterfuck.

    Actually that Jacuzzi level was a nightmare too.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Cantido wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Cantido wrote: »
    You know there are four Hitman games, and the latest one (Blood Money, for PC and 360) is really really good, right?

    No, there were three. Hitman 1, Hitman Contracts and Hitman Blood Money

    There were unfounded rumours about a horrible piece of shit game where Hitman converts to catholocism and becomes a jumped up Bond but personally I don't believe them for a second.

    THIS POST DOES NOT EXIST

    hit the deck sir

    I heard in that game, all his disguises stop working and 47 is forced to battle the entire nation of Japan as a result.

    That's a huge understatement.

    The guards are paranoid, psychic and are equipped with x-ray nightvision. Not just in the Japanese levels.

    *is stuck on Jacuzzi Job, god wtf, there's a reason I turn off the lights people, it's so the GUARDS DON'T SEE ME. THEY SHOULDN'T.*

    Meh, I liked all the missions except for the entire Japanese campaign, and a certain middle east level. All the other missions at least "felt" possible. But those few are just a clusterfuck.

    Again: Jacuzzi Job. The first Kuala Lumpur level was awesome, what with dressing up as a fireman and everything. But god, what. You turn off the lights and are therefore restricted to stupid first-person nightvision, yet the guards can still spot you if you're standing still on the other side of the room.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SimBen wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    I liked silent assassin, it wasn't that bad. It was certainly more consistent than the first game which had some really shitty run+gun levels (mostly in the jungle), although when that game worked, it was very, very good.

    The Colombian levels sucked ass, and the last one was pretty stupid, but the Hong Kong missions and the hotel were just the very essence of everything Hitman is and should be.

    I really liked the opening mission, with the rifle in a briefcase. One of the things they really did fuck-up in the second one was that any time you got given a sniper-rifle as part of your objective, it came already setup, and then you had to walk halfway across a city with it to get to a suitable perching spot.

    But saying that, I think the disguises were better done in the second game, with 47 (a white, 6ft2 bald guy with a barcode on the back of his head) no longer being able to blend in with chinese triads by tying a bandana around his head.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Rook wrote: »
    SimBen wrote: »
    Rook wrote: »
    I liked silent assassin, it wasn't that bad. It was certainly more consistent than the first game which had some really shitty run+gun levels (mostly in the jungle), although when that game worked, it was very, very good.

    The Colombian levels sucked ass, and the last one was pretty stupid, but the Hong Kong missions and the hotel were just the very essence of everything Hitman is and should be.

    I really liked the opening mission, with the rifle in a briefcase. One of the things they really did fuck-up in the second one was that any time you got given a sniper-rifle as part of your objective, it came already setup, and then you had to walk halfway across a city with it to get to a suitable perching spot.

    But saying that, I think the disguises were better done in the second game, with 47 (a white, 6ft2 bald guy with a barcode on the back of his head) no longer being able to blend in with chinese triads by tying a bandana around his head.

    But when you're dressed as a ninja, and therefore have your face entirely covered, and walking calmly in the middle of a snowstorm in the middle of the night, NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU'RE NOT A GUARD. But they do. They do. ;_;

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited July 2007
    The ORIGINAL traditions of the trade level was the best level in hitman history.

    Contracts version was good, but nowhere near the original.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    The ORIGINAL traditions of the trade level was the best level in hitman history.

    Contracts version was good, but nowhere near the original.

    Totally. I mean, you kill a dude by turning up the sauna. You hide a shotgun in a box of roses. You sneak up on a dude in his shower. It's just full of epic.

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Well I'm reinstalling Blood Money thanks to this thread.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Shogun wrote: »
    Well I'm reinstalling Blood Money thanks to this thread.

    I'm playing through Contracts right now because of Blood Money. What a good game.

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  • PejPej Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SimBen wrote: »
    But when you're dressed as a ninja, and therefore have your face entirely covered, and walking calmly in the middle of a snowstorm in the middle of the night, NOBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL YOU'RE NOT A GUARD. But they do. They do. ;_;
    Argh, Silent Assassin is the only one I've played so far (though I have Contracts sitting here and I'll definitely be buying Blood Money) and those levels left a real sour taste in my mouth. If it weren't for the fact that I was warned in advance after seeing forum posts all over the place bashing those levels well before I played it and that some of the other levels in the game let me know the real potential of the series I probably wouldn't consider myself a fan.

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  • AntibodiesAntibodies Used to live in a psychic city. Never knew what would happen in a day. Chicago, ILRegistered User regular
    edited July 2007
    I saw this 3 Pack yesterday at Gamestop and considered it. I already own Silent Assassin and Contracts and would rather have Blood Money for 360 but I'm glad the studio is so willing to give away their series that way in hopes of getting people to play through it all. Hopefully SA doesn't just turn them right off though.

    I always go for perfect stealth rank and that was basically an exercise in futility for a few maps of SA, I still thought the scale and feel of the maps was awesome at the time of its release. I recall there being some controversy about the level you posed as a monk or perhaps it was the assassination of Osama type one.

    I enjoyed snuffing the old bastard in the English Hunting club in Contracts and spying on his wife in the shower through the secret passage. All games should have secret passages and ghosts.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    Hitman 2 was my introduction to the series and as such I enjoyed it very much.

    I can see why Tube hold the opinion he does, and with the other options I don't see much of a point in playing 2 unless you have all the free time in the world.

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  • SimBenSimBen Hodor? Hodor Hodor.Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    Antibodies wrote: »
    I saw this 3 Pack yesterday at Gamestop and considered it. I already own Silent Assassin and Contracts and would rather have Blood Money for 360 but I'm glad the studio is so willing to give away their series that way in hopes of getting people to play through it all. Hopefully SA doesn't just turn them right off though.

    10 bucks that they're releasing this now in order to promote the movie and/or the soon-to-be-announced Hitman 5 (I bet E3 will have something about that). In fact, I foresee a lot of cross-promotion around the time the movie comes out, too.

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  • apotheosapotheos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited July 2007
    there is a movie?


    oh dear

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited July 2007
    SimBen wrote: »
    The ORIGINAL traditions of the trade level was the best level in hitman history.

    Contracts version was good, but nowhere near the original.

    Totally. I mean, you kill a dude by turning up the sauna. You hide a shotgun in a box of roses. You sneak up on a dude in his shower. It's just full of epic.

    Does he whip the gun out of the flowers in slow motion like the commercials? I hope they do that in the movie.

    That movie trailer needed more Jesper Kyd and less wymmens. Hitman does not kiss teh wimmens, he only kills them.

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