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I have a dumpster in my place that I use but I don't think I am just supposed to toss a PC into it.
I have two old computers sitting in my closet taking up space and I do not need them. I have stripped from them everything I have wanted and now they are just hulks of metal sitting in my closet. If I can't sell off the remaining components are there PC recycling places I should use or do computer stores take them like auto parts stores take used oil.. ?
I have a dumpster in my place that I use but I don't think I am just supposed to toss a PC into it.
I have two old computers sitting in my closet taking up space and I do not need them. I have stripped from them everything I have wanted and now they are just hulks of metal sitting in my closet. If I can't sell off the remaining components are there PC recycling places I should use or do computer stores take them like auto parts stores take used oil.. ?
Could try to find a place to scrap the tower and toss the smaller components.
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find your city's eco-station or equivalent where they take electronics and that sort of thing for disposal
it would be the "3rd way" next to trash and recycle
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HedgethornAssociate Professor of Historical Hobby HorsesIn the Lions' DenRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
Yeah, do a Google search for computer recycling places in your area. Alternately, call your city's trash department and ask if the city has an electronics recycling program, or if they know of one.
Your mileage will likely vary: I've been in some places (like Bloomington, MN) where the city will take computers for no charge, while other places charge $20 or so to take a tower and around $15 for a CRT monitor.
Alternately, if they're namebrand PCs, you can contact the manufacturer; Dell, for instance, will recycle for no cost ANY Dell-branded PC, no matter how old.
Another alternative is donating them to a local homeless shelter. The one I volunteered at during college always welcomed donated computers. They dissected them for parts and cobbled together working machines to teach people job/computer skills. Plus, you get a nice tax write-off.
Failing that, Goodwill or Salvation Army will probably take them off your hands.
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amateurhourOne day I'll be professionalhourThe woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered Userregular
edited August 2007
I'm typing this on a dumpster computer now..... It's amazing what people will throw away at college... It's an old HP with a celeron (p3) 677 mhz processor. I added some ram (512 total) and a 64 meg 2nd gen ati radeon card, and it runs warcraft at 30 ish fps (as long as all of the settings are turned down) I've got two drives in it; a 40 gig with xp pro, and a 4 gig with ubuntu (soon to be Damn Small Linux). Keep the PC man, turn it into a server or a firewall for your next home network. ::ends nerd rant::
I would take a hammer and destroy the harddrive, and then actually try and get the thing recycled or donated. Computers are actually really amazing. If people bother to take the time, nearly 100% of the computer can be recycled.
Depends where you live, really. If you live in a metro area or very nearby one you can almost surely find a place that will recycle the machines at no cost to you. If you don't live in a metro area though you might have a problem finding anyone nearby that will take them for recycling. I live in a suburban/rural area and the closest recycling center for electronics is about 90 miles away. So any old equipment I can't find a use for or give away goes into the dumpster.
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I would take a hammer and destroy the harddrive, and then actually try and get the thing recycled or donated. Computers are actually really amazing. If people bother to take the time, nearly 100% of the computer can be recycled.
....why would you purposely destroy the harddrive, then donate the remains? If you're going to recycle it, fine I guess. But unless the thing had half its components fried, a lot of places could USE these computers. Destroying the hard drive before you donate it is like donating a mattress to a shelter, but requiring them to spend $100 steam-cleaning it first. It's not useful until the places SPENDS money, which makes the donation a lot less useful.
Besides, even if you're got really fucking disgusting shit on your hard drive that should never see the light of day, there are tons of free programs that will erase and overwrite everything, ensuring your data is never seen again. That way the hard drive is still usable by said charity, and your data is safe. But to be honest the average computer user would probably be fine with just a regular-level format.
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I would take a hammer and destroy the harddrive, and then actually try and get the thing recycled or donated. Computers are actually really amazing. If people bother to take the time, nearly 100% of the computer can be recycled.
....why would you purposely destroy the harddrive, then donate the remains? If you're going to recycle it, fine I guess. But unless the thing had half its components fried, a lot of places could USE these computers. Destroying the hard drive before you donate it is like donating a mattress to a shelter, but requiring them to spend $100 steam-cleaning it first. It's not useful until the places SPENDS money, which makes the donation a lot less useful.
Besides, even if you're got really fucking disgusting shit on your hard drive that should never see the light of day, there are tons of free programs that will erase and overwrite everything, ensuring your data is never seen again. That way the hard drive is still usable by said charity, and your data is safe. But to be honest the average computer user would probably be fine with just a regular-level format.
Yeah, use a program called dban (freeware, government standard for cleaning a drive) and just give it to someone if you really don't want to keep it... or if you want to get rid of it that bad, send it to me and I'll pay shipping.
Because some guy down the street from me was busted with a bunch of old computer harddrives trying to and actually succeeded getting some SS numbers and CC numbers. Even after a reformat, I wouldn't trust it...
I mean, if you are going to give it to a friend or something, then yeah, just reformat, but I just wouldn't feel comfortable, but that's just me and I tend to panic about crap. As for my the horrible stuff I have on my harddrive, there actually isn't any... It's all on my flash drive which is always with me. ;-)
I would take a hammer and destroy the harddrive, and then actually try and get the thing recycled or donated. Computers are actually really amazing. If people bother to take the time, nearly 100% of the computer can be recycled.
Why? Do you keep anything important on it? It's pretty stupid to record SSNs and CC numbers in plaintext and that's pretty much what that guy was looking for. Well, that and bank account passwords no doubt (PayPal, eBay, etc). There are planty of applications that will store them encrypted so that there is no way to just pull them off the drive and it makes more sense to just move on to the next one rather than try to figure out what is in the encrypted mass of bits.
I would take a hammer and destroy the harddrive, and then actually try and get the thing recycled or donated. Computers are actually really amazing. If people bother to take the time, nearly 100% of the computer can be recycled.
Why? Do you keep anything important on it? It's pretty stupid to record SSNs and CC numbers in plaintext and that's pretty much what that guy was looking for. Well, that and bank account passwords no doubt (PayPal, eBay, etc). There are planty of applications that will store them encrypted so that there is no way to just pull them off the drive and it makes more sense to just move on to the next one rather than try to figure out what is in the encrypted mass of bits.
I'm assuming he doesn't want the children at the homeless shelter to find out personal information that they could use in epic fraud.
Or he doesn't want them finding all the porn. That too.
Because some guy down the street from me was busted with a bunch of old computer harddrives trying to and actually succeeded getting some SS numbers and CC numbers. Even after a reformat, I wouldn't trust it...
I mean, if you are going to give it to a friend or something, then yeah, just reformat, but I just wouldn't feel comfortable, but that's just me and I tend to panic about crap. As for my the horrible stuff I have on my harddrive, there actually isn't any... It's all on my flash drive which is always with me. ;-)
If you DBAN the drive, nobody is getting data off it ever again. All the data will be wiped and random characters written over the entire drive several times over.
And for the love of God, please nobody post that stupid paper about how MAYBE with an electron scanning microscope YOU MIGHT be able to get data off a randomed drive - that shit just ain't realistic for some punk trolling for SSNs.
I would take a hammer and destroy the harddrive, and then actually try and get the thing recycled or donated. Computers are actually really amazing. If people bother to take the time, nearly 100% of the computer can be recycled.
Why? Do you keep anything important on it? It's pretty stupid to record SSNs and CC numbers in plaintext and that's pretty much what that guy was looking for. Well, that and bank account passwords no doubt (PayPal, eBay, etc). There are planty of applications that will store them encrypted so that there is no way to just pull them off the drive and it makes more sense to just move on to the next one rather than try to figure out what is in the encrypted mass of bits.
I'm assuming he doesn't want the children at the homeless shelter to find out personal information that they could use in epic fraud.
Or he doesn't want them finding all the porn. That too.
I can conclusively state that I have never, ever saved a single thing on a HDD that would contribute to identity theft if a thief found it. Not that a browser wouldn't ever have saved a password to a financial resource or something, but those too are supposed to be encrypted. You'd have to be pretty sure that there is something specific you don't want someone to find for that to be a problem.
Of course, there were utilities for viewing the PWL (Password List) of ancient Windows versions, but were we really doing online banking back then?
Best advice: Don't save anything locally. Use an encypted flash drive and then just hope the online resources you use don't leak the data from their end and you shouldn't ever have to worry about destroying a HDD. Even passwords can lead to something you don't want them to have from online resources, so just make a password that you could never forget, "abstractify" it (e.g, replace zeroes in a date with o's), reverse it, and add a modifier for each usage in case it is ever intercepted ("p" for "PayPal"). If you need to rotate it often, base your modifier on the current date. You should never have to write any password down and yet it can be extremely cryptic and unique for each usage.
Because some guy down the street from me was busted with a bunch of old computer harddrives trying to and actually succeeded getting some SS numbers and CC numbers. Even after a reformat, I wouldn't trust it...
I mean, if you are going to give it to a friend or something, then yeah, just reformat, but I just wouldn't feel comfortable, but that's just me and I tend to panic about crap. As for my the horrible stuff I have on my harddrive, there actually isn't any... It's all on my flash drive which is always with me. ;-)
If you DBAN the drive, nobody is getting data off it ever again. All the data will be wiped and random characters written over the entire drive several times over.
And for the love of God, please nobody post that stupid paper about how MAYBE with an electron scanning microscope YOU MIGHT be able to get data off a randomed drive - that shit just ain't realistic for some punk trolling for SSNs.
Yup. Unless you are holding military secrets or something and they know it, it's about a trillion times more profitable to just move on to a drive from someone else who did not use DBAN.
you should never pay someone to take your things away....... what you throw out is never worth negative dollars.........
the motherboard and other cards in the computer contain precious metals that will pay you either about that much or something to take all of it from you so they can get the metals out of it, from what ive heard. you should search out a recycling place that is going to pay you to take this stuff, becuase they extract the precious metals like gold etc to sell
You'll need a good accelerant, or it's just unimpressive.
Whatever you do with the computer, my usual advice is not to throw away the hard drive. After spending a month working at a hospital wiping old hard drives to the extent required by HIPAA privacy regulations, I became aware of just how hard it is to actually clean a drive. Granted HIPAA is more stringent than ordinary privacy concerns (up to and including common sense), but when you've DBAN'd or worse a hundred drives and had the inspector send a dozen back with recovered text taped to them, you lose faith in data destruction.
Why can't you just zero the hard drive? It would take awhile but would be completely safe.
You can zero it a number of times. But I always assume this isn't all that worthwhile...if that worked wouldn't the hospitals and government agencies be doing this instead of creating a more complex directive to confront this problem?
I don't know how most places work, but when I donated mine, I was allowed to actually remove the hard drive. I'm sure everywhere is different, but the guy I spoke to said they just replace it anyway. But like a few people have said, I'd assume they just salvage what is usable from it.
Educational institutes that help adults learn computer skills, tutoring places for kids, libraries, etc., are always interested in looking to get a working computer for cheap. Craigslist it, you might make some cash.
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edited August 2007
I know G4's been advertising this site, gcycle.com. You put in what you're trying to get rid of and your zipcode, and they'll tell you where you can take it in your area.
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Could try to find a place to scrap the tower and toss the smaller components.
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find your city's eco-station or equivalent where they take electronics and that sort of thing for disposal
it would be the "3rd way" next to trash and recycle
Your mileage will likely vary: I've been in some places (like Bloomington, MN) where the city will take computers for no charge, while other places charge $20 or so to take a tower and around $15 for a CRT monitor.
Alternately, if they're namebrand PCs, you can contact the manufacturer; Dell, for instance, will recycle for no cost ANY Dell-branded PC, no matter how old.
Failing that, Goodwill or Salvation Army will probably take them off your hands.
You really shouldn't. Ecological impact aside it is a horrible waste of parts.
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....why would you purposely destroy the harddrive, then donate the remains? If you're going to recycle it, fine I guess. But unless the thing had half its components fried, a lot of places could USE these computers. Destroying the hard drive before you donate it is like donating a mattress to a shelter, but requiring them to spend $100 steam-cleaning it first. It's not useful until the places SPENDS money, which makes the donation a lot less useful.
Besides, even if you're got really fucking disgusting shit on your hard drive that should never see the light of day, there are tons of free programs that will erase and overwrite everything, ensuring your data is never seen again. That way the hard drive is still usable by said charity, and your data is safe. But to be honest the average computer user would probably be fine with just a regular-level format.
Yeah, use a program called dban (freeware, government standard for cleaning a drive) and just give it to someone if you really don't want to keep it... or if you want to get rid of it that bad, send it to me and I'll pay shipping.
I mean, if you are going to give it to a friend or something, then yeah, just reformat, but I just wouldn't feel comfortable, but that's just me and I tend to panic about crap. As for my the horrible stuff I have on my harddrive, there actually isn't any... It's all on my flash drive which is always with me. ;-)
Why? Do you keep anything important on it? It's pretty stupid to record SSNs and CC numbers in plaintext and that's pretty much what that guy was looking for. Well, that and bank account passwords no doubt (PayPal, eBay, etc). There are planty of applications that will store them encrypted so that there is no way to just pull them off the drive and it makes more sense to just move on to the next one rather than try to figure out what is in the encrypted mass of bits.
I'm assuming he doesn't want the children at the homeless shelter to find out personal information that they could use in epic fraud.
Or he doesn't want them finding all the porn. That too.
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Somebody already mentioned DBAN
If you DBAN the drive, nobody is getting data off it ever again. All the data will be wiped and random characters written over the entire drive several times over.
And for the love of God, please nobody post that stupid paper about how MAYBE with an electron scanning microscope YOU MIGHT be able to get data off a randomed drive - that shit just ain't realistic for some punk trolling for SSNs.
I can conclusively state that I have never, ever saved a single thing on a HDD that would contribute to identity theft if a thief found it. Not that a browser wouldn't ever have saved a password to a financial resource or something, but those too are supposed to be encrypted. You'd have to be pretty sure that there is something specific you don't want someone to find for that to be a problem.
Of course, there were utilities for viewing the PWL (Password List) of ancient Windows versions, but were we really doing online banking back then?
Best advice: Don't save anything locally. Use an encypted flash drive and then just hope the online resources you use don't leak the data from their end and you shouldn't ever have to worry about destroying a HDD. Even passwords can lead to something you don't want them to have from online resources, so just make a password that you could never forget, "abstractify" it (e.g, replace zeroes in a date with o's), reverse it, and add a modifier for each usage in case it is ever intercepted ("p" for "PayPal"). If you need to rotate it often, base your modifier on the current date. You should never have to write any password down and yet it can be extremely cryptic and unique for each usage.
Yup. Unless you are holding military secrets or something and they know it, it's about a trillion times more profitable to just move on to a drive from someone else who did not use DBAN.
the motherboard and other cards in the computer contain precious metals that will pay you either about that much or something to take all of it from you so they can get the metals out of it, from what ive heard. you should search out a recycling place that is going to pay you to take this stuff, becuase they extract the precious metals like gold etc to sell
You'll need a good accelerant, or it's just unimpressive.
Whatever you do with the computer, my usual advice is not to throw away the hard drive. After spending a month working at a hospital wiping old hard drives to the extent required by HIPAA privacy regulations, I became aware of just how hard it is to actually clean a drive. Granted HIPAA is more stringent than ordinary privacy concerns (up to and including common sense), but when you've DBAN'd or worse a hundred drives and had the inspector send a dozen back with recovered text taped to them, you lose faith in data destruction.
You can zero it a number of times. But I always assume this isn't all that worthwhile...if that worked wouldn't the hospitals and government agencies be doing this instead of creating a more complex directive to confront this problem?
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