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What's so bad about the fappin'?

WindbitWindbit Registered User regular
edited August 2007 in Debate and/or Discourse
Is there any good reason why you shouldn't masturbate, other than religious beliefs? Also, if it is sinful to masturbate, why do we have such a strong need to do it? If it's so godly to refrain from sexual activity, then why are there so many religious leaders out there that are molesters?

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  • CasketCasket __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2007
    If you have never fapped, do it ASAP. Then maybe more will become self-evident.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    edited August 2007
    There is no reason not to masturbate

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Men who masturbate have a significantly lower occurrence of prostate cancer. So, biologically speaking, it's good for you.

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  • SoonerManSoonerMan Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I've never heard of it being a sin to masturbate. I know in Mennonite and Amish cultures it is such, but I guess in the "advanced" world not so much. Its just always been a way of release and when I do it I think "impure thoughts." Guess I'm a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really... bad sinner.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    It's "sinful" to masturbate because your religion thinks that everything involving sexual activity is terrible and evil- until you get married, then it's okay.

    There is nothing objectively wrong with masturbating. It's a perfectly normal way to relieve sexual tension, and monkeys have been fapping long before humans even existed.

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  • WindbitWindbit Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Would you guys care to respond to my other questions, too?

    By the way, I just found these two articles, and they're both interesting reads:

    Traditional Sexual Ethics

    Buddhist Sexual Ethics

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  • phamtqphamtq Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    until you get married, then it's okay.

    Until you get married and find out that's one of the few joys to have left in life. :D

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The ethics of masturbation is much more of a D&D discussion than an H/A one, so I'm moving this over to there.

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  • ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited August 2007
    Unless you just got circumcised, or are otherwise disallowed by your doctor, there is no reason to abstain from self abuse.

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  • WindbitWindbit Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Thanatos wrote: »
    The ethics of masturbation is much more of a D&D discussion than an H/A one, so I'm moving this over to there.

    Alright, I'll just start a new topic on H/A that only deals with my personal problem.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Windbit wrote: »
    Is there any good reason why you shouldn't masturbate, other than religious beliefs?

    Religious beliefs aren't good reasons, last time I checked.

    And no, there isn't a good reason. If you are in the same room as me and I fucking know that you're rubbing one out, god damn it I will be pissed. And confused at your lack of social grace. But I am not a confrontational person in this respect, as history has shown.

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  • DiscGraceDiscGrace Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    If you don't like porn, don't look at it. (I don't care much for porn - I think 97% of it objectifies and degrades women - but I am an avid masturbator.) Thinking of an attractive member of the opposite gender (my husband or whoever ... David Tennant has been a good candidate of late) is usually enough to get me started, and once you get started the fact that hey, this feels really good should be enough to keep you going. If it doesn't feel good, you are doing something wrong. :P

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Windbit wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    The ethics of masturbation is much more of a D&D discussion than an H/A one, so I'm moving this over to there.

    Alright, I'll just start a new topic on H/A that only deals with my personal problem.

    No need!

    Also yeah, you're not going to go blind or deaf or grow hairy palms or anything.

    Pretty much every male has masturbated, and most do it regularly. Females not quite as high a percentage, but it's not harmful at all to either gender and is generally quite enjoyable.

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  • WindbitWindbit Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    Windbit wrote: »
    Thanatos wrote: »
    The ethics of masturbation is much more of a D&D discussion than an H/A one, so I'm moving this over to there.

    Alright, I'll just start a new topic on H/A that only deals with my personal problem.

    No need!

    Too late! http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?p=2577514#post2577514

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    It's "sinful" to masturbate because your religion thinks that everything involving sexual activity is terrible and evil- until you get married, then it's okay.

    There is nothing objectively wrong with masturbating. It's a perfectly normal way to relieve sexual tension, and monkeys have been fapping long before humans even existed.

    Then when your married you're allowed to have five-way, latex apparelled, sadist, abusive sexual intercourse that involves a midget and his donkey.

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  • DiscGraceDiscGrace Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to drool.

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  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Ain't nothing wrong with that. The greatest men (and women) in history fapped. Strive for greatness.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I need to get hitched.

    Stat.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to masturbate.

    *cough*

    I remember reading a poll in Scientific American or something to the effect that 89% of men and something like 65% of women said they masturbate.

    *shrug*

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Gim wrote: »
    Ain't nothing wrong with that. The greatest men (and women) in history fapped. Strive for greatness.

    Hitler fapped, Ghandi fapped, Stalin fapped, Neil Armstrong fapped... in space.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to masturbate.

    *cough*

    I remember reading a poll in Scientific American or something to the effect that 89% of men and something like 65% of women said they masturbate.

    *shrug*

    So 19% of men and 35% of women are liars.

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    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    David Tennant has been a good candidate of late

    My girlfriend's developed a huge crush on David Tennant. She keeps showing me YouTube clips of him in random scenes from random shows and going, "Ooooh! Isn't he cute?!?"

    I guess he is pretty hot, isn't he?

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to masturbate.

    *cough*

    I remember reading a poll in Scientific American or something to the effect that 89% of men and something like 65% of women said they masturbate.

    *shrug*

    The rest were too busy masturbating to comment.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to drool.

    That is because masturbating girls are hot.

    ...

    I had to teach my ex so much crap.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to masturbate.

    *cough*

    I remember reading a poll in Scientific American or something to the effect that 89% of men and something like 65% of women said they masturbate.

    *shrug*

    So 19% of men and 35% of women are liars.

    I think you mean 11.

    And I don't doubt that at least a couple percentage of those people are telling the truth.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Johannen wrote: »
    Gim wrote: »
    Ain't nothing wrong with that. The greatest men (and women) in history fapped. Strive for greatness.

    Hitler fapped, Ghandi fapped, Stalin fapped, Neil Armstrong fapped... in space.

    Ghandi was really weird about it. I'm almost certain he didn't fap. He practically suffered a nervous breakdown when he found that he had a nocturnal emission one time.

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    edited August 2007
    I had a buddy who went to a religious college in the early 90s. He had a neighbor who used to print out these big cheesy banners in Print Shop on his dot-matrix printer that said "BATTLE M." He also had a wristband bearing the same slogan.

    My buddy asked him one day what "BATTLE M" meant and the dude just stammered and said, "Um, it's a bad personal habit I'm trying to kick."

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    I'm pretty sure, with nothing but anecdotal evidence and raw animal insight to back me up, that a large percentage of women do not self-stimulate as compared to the number of men.

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Feral wrote: »
    I had a buddy who went to a religious college in the early 90s. He had a neighbor who used to print out these big cheesy banners in Print Shop on his dot-matrix printer that said "BATTLE M." He also had a wristband bearing the same slogan.

    My buddy asked him one day what "BATTLE M" meant and the dude just stammered and said, "Um, it's a bad personal habit I'm trying to kick."

    How does that even work

    Does he drop trou and begin, and then looks down at his wrist and goes, "Ohhhh, right!" and stops?

    Because frankly

    I don't generally look down

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Johannen wrote: »
    Gim wrote: »
    Ain't nothing wrong with that. The greatest men (and women) in history fapped. Strive for greatness.

    Hitler fapped, Ghandi fapped, Stalin fapped, Neil Armstrong fapped... in space.

    Ghandi was really weird about it. I'm almost certain he didn't fap. He practically suffered a nervous breakdown when he found that he had a nocturnal emission one time.

    It was that good?!

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to drool.


    From what I remember from my human sexuality classes it's still not as prevalent as with men though, particularly in the southern and east asia, the middle east and the northern areas of Africa, or for first-generation immigrants from those countries/cultures. I think (although I'm trying to find this figure and failing) that less than 50% of middle eastern women surveyed had ever masturbated, and the amount that had ever actually had an orgasm, period, was even lower.

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  • DiscGraceDiscGrace Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Rolo wrote: »
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    More females masturbate than you think. We just tend not to talk about it to guys because then their eyes get this faraway look and then sometimes they start to drool.


    From what I remember from my human sexuality classes it's still not as prevalent as with men though, particularly in the southern and east asia, the middle east and the northern areas of Africa, or for first-generation immigrants from those countries/cultures. I think (although I'm trying to find this figure and failing) that less than 50% of middle eastern women surveyed had ever masturbated, and the amount that had ever actually had an orgasm, period, was even lower.

    Oh, yeah, I don't doubt that. The social stigma/feeling of danger for women in places like that is much worse, plus if they've had FGM they're not going to have an orgasm, period. I mainly meant American/Western European/Australian women, and I should have clarified that - sorry.

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  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Johannen wrote: »
    Gim wrote: »
    Ain't nothing wrong with that. The greatest men (and women) in history fapped. Strive for greatness.

    Hitler fapped, Ghandi fapped, Stalin fapped, Neil Armstrong fapped... in space.

    And each was a greater person for it.

    Ladies and gentlemen, a toast to masturbation. Raise your hands in the air, and then stick 'em down there.

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    edited August 2007
    Masturbation is even better when it's for charity (very NSFW).

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
  • DiscGraceDiscGrace Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    As a female person, it's also WAY easier to masturbate with a vibrator. Not all women have access to Toys in Babeland, and not all of the ones who can are comfortable with 1.) going into such a store, or 2.) keeping such things around the house where they could be accidentally discovered.

    Then there's my friend "Charlotte", who once had some friends over to her dorm room in college for a movie. One guy sat on the lower bunk bed, said "Hey, what's this?" and yanked on a power cord that was hanging down from Charlotte's upper bunk. Boy, was he startled when a big pink vibe landed next to him.

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  • JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    DiscGrace wrote: »
    As a female person, it's also WAY easier to masturbate with a vibrator. Not all women have access to Toys in Babeland, and not all of the ones who can are comfortable with 1.) going into such a store, or 2.) keeping such things around the house where they could be accidentally discovered.

    Then there's my friend "Charlotte", who once had some friends over to her dorm room in college for a movie. One guy sat on the lower bunk bed, said "Hey, what's this?" and yanked on a power cord that was hanging down from Charlotte's upper bunk. Boy, was he startled when a big pink vibe landed next to him.

    So... you and your friend, Charlotte was it?... You both like to masturbate and are open about it yes? Do go on...
    :P

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    What kind of person just yanks on random power cords in somebody else's home

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  • RhinoRhino TheRhinLOL Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    The only 'moral' objection I would have to it is:

    (wait.. this is the D&D thread right and not the H/A one?)

    1] It can be over-used/abused (like anything really). That guy that sits in the basement watching porn all day. Don't be that guy... and don't sit on his couch or touch anything. In fact, it's just best not to go over there anymore.

    Same with pot or beer or video games. I don't see nothing "wrong" with them, but don't think it's healthy to drink or smoke your life away. I don't find it a 'sin' and ain't going to preach about it; but feel that people where put on this planet for more then uncontrolled self-indulgence.

    2] For me, if I crank out a few in a short time I get all lazy, tried and unmotivated to do anything. So in that sense, I find it "objectionable" in that I feel like I should be doing more with my day then just relaxing after a few good wanks on my crank.

    That make sense?

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  • Target PracticeTarget Practice Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Neither of those things are "moral" objections.

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  • GimGim a tall glass of water Registered User regular
    edited August 2007
    Kind of. I think of it more as an indicator. Once or twice a day is generally the norm. If I'm super busy sometimes not at all, and that's fine. I'll just compensate the following day. But if more than two a day, then it's an indication that I'm too bored and inactive for my own damn good.

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