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Microsoft announces WMC support extended to Xvid and DivX (soon to be 360 too?)
Ok, we're gonna break this down, Microsoft really didn't do us any favors of simplicity this time. As you may remember, back in late 2004 Microsoft's hardware partners announced Windows Media Center Extenders, which were basically STBs that could replicate a cheesy version of Media Center's interface on your TV over your home network. Not surprisingly, people didn't want another box (let alone a box with a crappy UI that wasn't as good as a real Media Center) so those boxes never took off. But the best (and most frequently used) implementation came way later on with the Xbox 360, which was able to far better replicate the XP and Vista Media Center experience.
So today Microsoft is announcing a reinvigorated Media Center Extender effort called... wait for it... Extenders for Windows Media Center. Ok, the name totally sucks, but the important part is Microsoft upgraded its wayward Extender system with a new version that takes full advantage of Vista (including live HDTV streaming), supports 802.11n, and adds something that really blew our mind: codecs we actually care about, namely XviD and DivX. Niveus, Linksys, and D-Link will all be launching new devices based on this software platform, so watch out for those -- as well as DVD players, TVs, and all manner of other home theater devices Microsoft is apparently trying to get this new system built right into. Unfortunately this new Extender rev isn't being announced for the Xbox 360 (yet), so we'll all have to wait a while longer before playing XviD and DivX movies on that thing -- without transcoding, anyway.
If they add the appropriate Xbox 360 functionality soon, that'll really value-add to the 360 for me. I've been tempted to buy a network-enabled Xvid/DivX player for a while, and will definitely be buying a 360 this holiday season for Mass Effect. The purchase may kill two birds with one stone, now.
Got some eyes on time with the upcoming refreshed Media Center Extender v.2 boxes. Here are the features that will hopefully keep it from being DOA likethe older MCE 2005 extenders and diferentiate it from current gen XBox 360 that wasn't in the press release.
• It is lame, but the Xbox 360 is not slated to get the added codec support.
•The press release said the new boxes will by default reference design get XVid and DivX, but they're also getting H.264!
•The 2005 was a set top box that didn't do HD out. These likely all have HDMI and 1080p.
•No one wants another set top box if they can avoid it, so MCE Extender v2 will be built into upcoming and soon to be announced DVD players and TVs. Very cool.
•Oh yeah, wireless N support, for HD of course.
•The UI is identical to the UI on the Xbox 360 Extender software, and has all the visual stylings of the latest MCE. One difference. UI animations aren't as smooth, because of the lack of visual Horsepower that the 360 has. This was denied by some in the booth, but a Msft employee and my own eyes confirmed. But really, it isn't a big deal.
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I doubt this will make it to the 360 anytime soon.
Why? The original extenders is what the Xbox 360 one is based on. As far as I can tell based on what I've read, the 360 basically has all of the features of the original extender. It's already been rumoured that the Fall Update comes with a lot of the new extender features, before the new extenders were announced. While it could just be wishful thinking and coincidence, I think there's more evidence to believe than doubt at this stage.
This makes that rumor about xvid and divx in the fall update suddenly quite viable.
And let's be clear, if they say no to the extender portion of the 360, that doesn't mean it's not coming to the streaming function that's OUTSIDE of the extender. The fact that microsoft is now allowing it means someone got a greenlight somewhere, and sure as shit we'll be getting it on the 360 soon.
So does this mean I'll be able to stream XviD and DivX movies from my PC to my 360 and actually watch them? I don't know what genius decided that 360 should only be able to stream .wmv but whoever he is, he needs to be strung up by the toes.
I mean, even .avi support would've been nice considering it's a format created by Microsoft!
HEre is the "rumoured" fall update list alot of people were calling bullshit on because of the Xvid support listed. I wonder if this means the list is true after all?
* Compatibility with 3rd party wireless controllers
* Compatibility with messenger pad
* Xbox Live Vision firmware upgrade, sharper image filtering
* Many more Vision Cam settings
* New screensaver settings - when away from Xbox 360, screensaver will play for optional time, before screen goes dark
* New Xbox Live Arcade blade - where you can download, play and learn about Xbox Live Arcade
* Brand new "web based adver-games" flash games which aren't downloaded, but are playable bite sized games, accessed via new Xbox Live Arcade Blade
* New Screensaver option in Themes and Gamer Pics option in Marketplace blade
* New functionality with Messenger, works with chatpad
* New XNA Game Launcher for those that have the program, new options
* New language, time and date settings
* New "advertising opportunities" in gameplay
* Xvid support
* New "favourites" option via Xbox Live Arcade, can rate according to preference
* IPTV Functionality - support for TiVo like PVR options. Will be able to record TV direct. Options include source by channel, director, actor and distributor
* Filter friends list, will be able to filter friends via games
* New clan support - will be able to launch clan games direct from dashboard, can "fold" friends into new clan category in friends list
* Better translations in settings and other options for Japanese, German and Spanish languages
* New quick option to delete via X Button in memory viewer.
* Option for having downloadable In-game content not inform when completed download
* Option for having video content not inform when completed download
* Faster settings for viewing unfinished video content downloads
* New option in Games tab - beta and others, will be launcher for MMO and multiplayer betas
* New option in Marketplace Games tab, search by letter, can be inputted via text pad or console
* Smarter game settings - you can be messaged via publishers about new in-game content for your games
* Picture in picture functionality for DVD Drive and some other updated settings
* Improved USB Keyboard settings
* Improved voice chat settings in game and from dashboard
* Faster response times to Redeem Code settings
* Option to play a Redeemed Code game straight after redeeming code
* Console will now recognise low Hard Drive space, will inform you immediately if can't download current item, will automatically download next available that is able.
* Increased space size for gamerpics and dashboard themes
* Themes can now be animated
* Themes may now have sound effects
* Better slideshow capabilities new options added. New sound effects and integration with Hard Drive/ PC music capable.
* New estimated timer for downloads, informing how long download will expect to take
So does this mean I'll be able to stream XviD and DivX movies from my PC to my 360 and actually watch them? I don't know what genius decided that 360 should only be able to stream .wmv but whoever he is, he needs to be strung up by the toes.
I mean, even .avi support would've been nice considering it's a format created by Microsoft!
That's the understanding. As a first generation Media Centre Extender, the 360 should also reap the benefits of this second generation's new features, as it would give them even greater value-add to the 360 as a media device.
In the meantime I just use this nifty little program: TVersity
Converts formats which aren't originally supported by the 360 on the fly so you don't clog up your PC with converted DivX/XVid files and can even stream to a variety of devices etc.
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I don't want to always convert all my movies!
Why? The original extenders is what the Xbox 360 one is based on. As far as I can tell based on what I've read, the 360 basically has all of the features of the original extender. It's already been rumoured that the Fall Update comes with a lot of the new extender features, before the new extenders were announced. While it could just be wishful thinking and coincidence, I think there's more evidence to believe than doubt at this stage.
And let's be clear, if they say no to the extender portion of the 360, that doesn't mean it's not coming to the streaming function that's OUTSIDE of the extender. The fact that microsoft is now allowing it means someone got a greenlight somewhere, and sure as shit we'll be getting it on the 360 soon.
I mean, even .avi support would've been nice considering it's a format created by Microsoft!
That's the understanding. As a first generation Media Centre Extender, the 360 should also reap the benefits of this second generation's new features, as it would give them even greater value-add to the 360 as a media device.
Converts formats which aren't originally supported by the 360 on the fly so you don't clog up your PC with converted DivX/XVid files and can even stream to a variety of devices etc.