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Are Myers-Briggs and Strong tests really worth it?

SethTheHumanSethTheHuman Registered User regular
edited September 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
My therapist suggested that, given my career disatisfaction, I should consider taking the Strong career test to help me make a decision. The problem is that the only places I can find to take it are online and usually around $80. Is that the only way to do so? More importantly, before I can even take that one, they recommend I take Myers-Briggs as well. I think I took that as part of my old college curriculum, but we're talking almost a decade ago now, and it wouldn't even be appropriate for me now even if I could remember the results. That's likely another $40 or more right there. Is it worth all this? Or are there free sites for this sort of thing online that I just haven't found yet? I'd like to have something to evaluate, but I don't know how reliable these tests are in the first place.

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  • FeureauFeureau Registered User new member
    edited September 2007
    I took those kinda tests, I'm not sure if those are the ones I took, but the names are familiar. Basically, it didn't tell me anything specific, only like, you should go take a carreer in art or engineering or science, or you'd be good as an accountant. I think I wasted money and time on those tests. Though it's one of them experience that you look back, and say, yeah, I did that. But nothing much came out of it.

    In the end, if you're unsatisfied with your carreer, you alone have the power to change that. Take notice of what you enjoy doing, like that trucker guy who saw star wars and now a top brass at ILM. I forgot his name but it was on one of them star wars original trilogy dvd set.

    Also, there's tickle.com, that's more like one of them tests you find in girl magazines, but they have some pretty good (free) tests that they say is PhD-Certified. (whatever that is)

    Like this job test:
    http://web.tickle.com/tests/rightjob/index_main.jsp

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I just took a one unit class at the local community college over the summer that involved taking both tests (they were part of the class packet, which I don't which that expensive). They can be interesting, but when you think about the results, you wind up getting results about things you usually realized you probably knew about yourself. But check your local community college to see if they offer something similar.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The link in the second post only takes you to a smoke and mirrors runaround where you have to pay $13 if you want to see any actual results other than a bullshit salary figure.

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  • Ant000Ant000 Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I took one at the University of British Columbia. It was like a hundred bucks... They made me take an aptitude test and a personality one, and then I had a session with a test interpretor person. I didn't really like it because the questions were so transparent... there was one like "Would you be interested in performing military drill?" In the end I was pretty much middle of the road in most traits, the jobs I was most compatible with were accountant and military officer, and I didn't really ever consult it after the initial reading. It also apparently "expires" after a few years and is no longer relevant which I thought was funny since I was like seventeen at the time. I got this whole like mini-book of graphs, charts and other methodology. All in all it was kind of neat but not too substantial for me.

    My dad took the same test I did before me though, he was the one who recommended it, and it made him pursue a side career in stage acting which turned out to be quite fruitful. So who knows.

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  • variantvariant Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Funny thing about that test, it said I'd be best as a Computer Network Specialist, I'm doing that right now and I hate it, will be quitting as soon as I can find something else.

    lol..

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  • citriccitric Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Yeah, I guess, $80 is pretty steep, but I found the strong test to be worthwhile. It's not going to say anything super new or earth-shattering, but it will confirm that you could be happy in any number of careers and it will probably list some you hadn't thought of. It's psychologically encouraging to see a long list of promising jobs, any of which sound decent. It kind of opens up your perspective a lot. Of course, $80 sucks... mine was $15 through the university.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
    Nah, don't pay for them. you can get personality tests online for free, including cut-down versions of the MBTI that are reasonably okay. PersonalDNA is a slightly different test that gives more info, too. Bear in mind that those tests aren't always that accurate - frankly, I hold them barely above astrology, fun as they are. If you do do the MBTI though, make sure you read all the personality profiles, not just the one you wind up with (or ones, since your results may vary with mood etc) since it cuts down on confirmation bias. I haven't seen the Strong test, so I can't really comment, but over here at least the government puts out a book of careers, detailing what they involve and the local qualifying requirements. Its pretty useful for school-leavers and anyone considering a career change. I guess if you can find something like that it might give you a hand.

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  • stigweardstigweard Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    variant wrote: »
    Funny thing about that test, it said I'd be best as a Computer Network Specialist, I'm doing that right now and I hate it, will be quitting as soon as I can find something else.

    lol..

    It is funny. My top two when I took it where systems analyst or airforce pilot. I'm terrified of heights and I've grown to hate CS. I wouldn't take much stock in them. If you can't figure out what to do, spend some time and try different things. Audit classes, ask people who work different jobs, and travel around a bit if you can. No matter what career you choose, there isn't one that is cookies and orgasms 24/7. There is always going to be some level of stress and dissatisfaction. The trick, for me at least, is to find something that is enjoyable enough to do that it outweighs the bad side enough to be worth it.

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  • SethTheHumanSethTheHuman Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The Cat wrote: »
    Nah, don't pay for them. you can get personality tests online for free, including cut-down versions of the MBTI that are reasonably okay. PersonalDNA is a slightly different test that gives more info, too.

    I think I'll need some more examples of the former. I want at least something to work on that I can take to therapy this thursday.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2007
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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Take the test, and use it as a guide for personal understanding. They are not hard and fast classifications -- they're a general classification based on taking a set of personalities and splitting them up into different groups and applying a "most [group] do [action]" and then explain the combinations.

    They're pretty accurate because they just take the information you give them and classify it into one of the existing groups. As in, there's no fortune telling or deep insight, because it's just telling you back what you told it, like most personality tests. The important thing, though, is to read the descriptions for the different combinations of personality types that it says you are, and see how true those things are. It usually does a good job of distilling your personal preferences and attitudes into a bulleted list :D

    But that list can be a very nice way to steer yourself towards understanding what kind of job you may enjoy. Most of the MBTI things aren't so much a "do this job" as a "you prefer quiet environments where your knowledge is utilized" things.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I've got a feeling it's only really useful if you don't even have an idea of what you like. Which is probably why they give it to high schoolers who don't think past a month in the future. But if you've got even a slight idea of something you might like to do, I'd go with that over anything a test would say.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Scooter wrote: »
    I've got a feeling it's only really useful if you don't even have an idea of what you like. Which is probably why they give it to high schoolers who don't think past a month in the future. But if you've got even a slight idea of something you might like to do, I'd go with that over anything a test would say.

    Yeah, the tests are good if you want to clarify your own thoughts more. I've taken the test through work and it just told me who I was, but it was nice that it's an actual personality type instead of just "my weird ol' self." But it does help if you've never spent any time really reflecting on your work environment, which I think is what the tests are really supposed to be used for. For instance, if you're a talker and prefer to bounce ideas off of other people, going into a field where you're alone for long periods of time is a bad idea. And likewise, if you prefer to gather your thoughts before presenting them, being in a field that requires quick thinking would leave you miserable. That kind of stuff.

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  • EliteLamerEliteLamer __BANNED USERS regular
    edited September 2007
    I took something like that for free at my school and it didn't seem to help me that much. Doesn't really tell you anything more then you already know.

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  • alcoholic_engineeralcoholic_engineer Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I have taken a few. There were free ones that my high school gave me and those were useless.

    I then went to the guidance counselors at the nearest university. It cost actually around $250 which was horribly expensive, but not only did i got for multiple tests I had one on one time with a professional counselor. It was excellent. Not only did it narrow down my career options, there were 3 that quite clearly stood out. (if you are wondering, military, accounting and engineering). Upon checking them out years later, it is quite clear that they were and still are extremely representative of my mentality as well as my strengths.


    When I did it I had no idea what to do when i graduated from high school, but it not only gave me viable options, it was extremely helpful and I would recommend it to anyone who was unsure of what to do. It seems expensive, but in retrospect it is cheaper then taking the wrong classes or doing something you wouldnt enjoy.

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  • citriccitric Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    One thing to clarify: the strong test, at least, isn't a personality test. It compares your answers to questions to a lot of survey data, and then spits out the highest % matches you have. I.e., you really like X, Y, Z. So did most of the psychologists. So, that's given as your #1 "career match."

    At least in the case of the strong test, you're getting something for your money. I wouldn't pay for a straight personality test.

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  • SethTheHumanSethTheHuman Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    The Cat wrote: »

    Ah. I found a few when I just typed "Myers-Briggs," but the first ones I saw were pay sites. This should at least give me enough to prepare me for the Strong test. Thank you.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2007
    I just did one today as part of the outplacement plan my company is offering to help me find a new job after giving me the axe. It was interesting but it mostly just helped tell me what I already know. I'm schizo INTP/ENTP which means I am an ingenious criminal mastermind too disorganized and self involved to actually mastermind anything. All the big shots in the class hit ENTJ. 80 bucks seems like a lot of cash for a test that took me all of ten minutes and told me what I already knew.

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    edited September 2007
    Another way you can do a psuedo-MBTI is to take the Keirsey Temperament Sorter, which is available in a book called Please Understand Me. It's about $10 in a bookstore or you can find it in just about any library (it's a pretty popular book) for free.

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  • SarcastroSarcastro Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Don't bother if your IQ is higher than 160. Seriously. Much of the Strong test assumes you'll be happy doing what you would be good at. If you tip the scales so to speak, you get back a list of 20,000 jobs essentially asking you which one you would prefer.

    Which would have been the goddamn point of taking the $#%@ing test now wouldn't it?

    Fuckers.

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  • citriccitric Registered User regular
    edited September 2007
    Sarcastro wrote: »
    Don't bother if your IQ is higher than 160. Seriously. Much of the Strong test assumes you'll be happy doing what you would be good at.


    Did you read my post? It just assumes you'll be happy doing the same job as someone doing that job who answered the questions the same way as you. It has zilch to do with competency.

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