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I have been playing it on my computer. It is good, I'm not super good at it but I am mostly winning at fighting and mostly have money (it's not like shogun it seems, you basically always have money if you're willing to wait a turn for it to show up) but I'm a little dissapointed that there's no diplomatic way of winning, I thought the politics were going to be more important rather than just stat bonuses. I also have the expansions but have not played them yet
DID YOU LIKE THIS GAME ROME TOTAL WAR I DO I THINK IT IS GOOD DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS
I have been playing it on my computer. It is good, I'm not super good at it but I am mostly winning at fighting and mostly have money (it's not like shogun it seems, you basically always have money if you're willing to wait a turn for it to show up) but I'm a little dissapointed that there's no diplomatic way of winning, I thought the politics were going to be more important rather than just stat bonuses. I also have the expansions but have not played them yet
DID YOU LIKE THIS GAME ROME TOTAL WAR I DO I THINK IT IS GOOD DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS
I am currently playing as the Juili faction. I ground the Gauls into dust, the Spanish healed at my feet and am moving on Carthridge. The Greeks also tried attacking me so I am going to lay the smack down on them as well.
Playing on Medium settings all around. I just hate that I don't have enough family members to properly lead armies. How do you actually solve this?
Whenever we went to a LAN cafe place one of my best friends would always try and sucker us into playing a game.
For the most part we never gave in but man, he loved that game. He's in Japan now and I won't see him for a year and a half. That's all I have to add, good day sir.
So how long is it now from people installing the game to setting up a custom 300 skirmish, with 300 spartans and as many barbarians as the game can handle. and elephants.
I didn't like Rome, its the worst of the Total War series.
Cavalry is completely overpowered. Phalanxes are completely overpowered. Both render spearmen completely worthless. The Roman factions are way too easy. The Egypt faction is absurdly fantasy styled and far too strong. Carthage is far too weak. Unlike the other total war games, the AI behaves too similarly each game. Egypt always dominates its region. Carthage always go down fast.
The only way I had fun in Rome was modding the game so that I could play as the most disadvantaged weak factions, like Spain and Numidia.
Multiplayer was pretty fun. But I haven't played it since Medieval 2 came out.
Oh, and the AI?
I never get tired of that screenshot.
Enough complaining, here's some tactics. Looks like I don't have the screenshot anymore, so I'll have to describe it.
Play as: any faction with phalanxes. Armenia is my favourite.
Form a large semi circle of pikes. Put you general behind them. Send out your horse archers and kill your enemies. They won't attack your main army, and if your HA are cataphract archers, victory is automatic.
edit, nope, I do have it.
The last screenshot was all death by a basic arrow tower.
So how long is it now from people installing the game to setting up a custom 300 skirmish, with 300 spartans and as many barbarians as the game can handle. and elephants.
This isn't a movie. They have only to focus on one flank before the spartans roll over and you win.
it looks like they're trying to spell something with their corpses..
I played Medieval a bit, and found it fun, never actually tried playing Rome though. I don't doubt its quality, i know it's good, i just need to be in a certain mood to actually devote the kind of time i'd like to. My dad, however, plays it exclusively (although on easy), and seems to enjoy taking over as much of the world as is possible. Also, I would be all over a '300 Spartans' scenario.
I'm pretty sure that in practical terms the Spartans would get ruined very quickly.
Actually, in the first campaign I played I had a rather Spartan-esque battle. I was playing as the Julii and had conquered all of North-Western Europe except for Briton and had now moved my main army south to Spain. Well, there was one town that was protected by... umm... one unit of Hastati, 2-4 Town Watch and one Cavalry. I wasn't paying attention to what was happening in that area too much and soon I noticed that the Britons had decided to invade with the largest fucking army in the world. Immediately I try to send some more troops from other cities to back them up but it's too late. They're sieged and are about to get rightly fucked.
The Britons attack with two battering rams. I position my troops in a bit of a "U" shape around the front door, with the Hastati at the base of the "U" and the town watch on the sides. I figure I'll lure their troops in through the front gate to the Hastati and then flank them with the Town Watch. This will prevent them from getting behind me or anything like that and completely eliminate their numbers advantage... for a time.
My plan works perfectly. The way it's set up more of my troops are actually engaged in battle then there's are and since my army was full of mighty Romans and they're all dirty barbarians, they get slaughtered. I fight off the first wave, which retreats, but then rallies and returns and it all starts over again. This goes on for a while until their second ram gets to the left side of my base and those dirty Britons storm in and flank me. I had time to strengthen my left flank and somehow still manage to hold them off for a time.
At this point I'm sure I'm going to lose but am convinced I will cripple their army enough that it will get bitched my guys later so I charge with my cavalry. Now this is where the overpowered cavalry comes in. By some off chance I kill their general and send their whole army into a retreat. I don't want them to rally this time so I send my cavalry after them, which basically stomps over their army from the ass up. The entire time I'm fucking flipping out and when the last of them were dead or retreated I felt a truly massive adrenaline rush.
Afterwards, the captain who was leading that fight was promoted to general for his valiant deeds and adopted into my family. It was so fucking amazing.
tl;dr 5-6 units of Romans fought off 2 thousand Britons. I got a general out of it.
I don't get the hate this game gets sometimes. I found it incredibly fun, and if you're into the whole Roman setting then it's even better.
It's not a sit down and utilize your base twitch gamer skills type of game, so to many it seems alien and they rage against it. To some of us, it's like heaven.
Carthage does need to be a lot stronger. And I know that most of Hannibal's missile troops were slingers, but to remove archers from the faction altogether is just stupid.
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...and I thought of how all those people died, and what a good death that is. That nobody can blame you for it, because everyone else died along with you, and it is the fault of none, save those who did the killing.
It's the game that made the Total War series popular. It's basically like a band hitting mainstream success - the old fans will always bemoan the good old times when they where the only ones following "their" band.
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So is there a defined way to get more family members or is it all luck? Cause thats who I use for Generals. I mean almost all are being used for generals with the exception of one or two who are governers to build and maintain the empire.
So is there a defined way to get more family members or is it all luck? Cause thats who I use for Generals. I mean almost all are being used for generals with the exception of one or two who are governers to build and maintain the empire.
Family members are based on how many territories you own. More territory= more family members. Also, generals who are out in the field tend to have a lot fewer children, so it's good to have them spend time in cities to attend their husbandly duties.
As I seem to do every single time the game is mentioned, I am going to post a link for the multiplayer napoleonic mod for rome total war, it really helped me squeeze some extra life out of game when I got bored of it:
As I seem to do every single time the game is mentioned, I am going to post a link for the multiplayer napoleonic mod for rome total war, it really helped me squeeze some extra life out of game when I got bored of it:
At www.totalrome.com, we often were given updates to the Napoleonic mods and they looked all very promising. (Course, it looks like Creative Assembly will be making a Napoleon title in the upcoming future, if rumors are true.)
As I seem to do every single time the game is mentioned, I am going to post a link for the multiplayer napoleonic mod for rome total war, it really helped me squeeze some extra life out of game when I got bored of it:
At www.totalrome.com, we often were given updates to the Napoleonic mods and they looked all very promising. (Course, it looks like Creative Assembly will be making a Napoleon title in the upcoming future, if rumors are true.)
Nah, I'm not with the Lordz. But, I had a real blast with their mod (dominated all my game time for a good two months) , and since they offer it for free, I figure mentioning it every now and again is the least I could do.
Those would be most interesting rumors, I hope the Creative Assembly team will take some notes from the Napoleonic Total War mod team, if not incorporate them outright.
My first time around, I chose the Scipii. After a brutal campaign to secure my section of Italy and Sicily, I marched my self into Africa, giving the Carthaginians an almighty beating for daring to get in my way. The Senate also wanted me to, which helps I suppose. After years of warfare with the Carthaginians and the Nubians, I turned my attention to the Egyptians (Chariots = ). Captured a wonderful little town that served as a choke point between Egypt and the Scipii part of Africa, and set my General, Aulus, as Governor. He'd been fighting for over fifteen years, so I figured he deserved a break.
Dude went totally, completely mental. It seems wading knee deep in foreign blood has that effect on people, but Aulus didn't take his new role well. At all. Madness set in early, resulting in an over 50 year old General mostly renowned for biting his servants all the time. Mind you, Aulus the Mad eventually became Aulus the Good after keeping taxes low, and became Aulus the Murderer or somesuch due to him training over a dozen assassins. This crazy, tax hating, murderous old bastard eventually sired a kid. Not just any kid, but a kid who was an 8 star general, who went on to more or less single handedly wipe out all of the Senate's army in one fateful battle.
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I remember that one History Channel show that used R:TW for all of its reenactments. That was pretty entertaining to watch.
Yeah, the vices/virtues were always an interesting part of the generals.
Once while playing the game, I was doing such a bang-up job with my one army marching around Gaul. So I loaded an army on a ship and sent it to Ireland, taking the island easily, and Britain as well. I launched another army and took a very under-defended Alexandria, as well as Cairo and that other city further south. Surprised the heck out of me that I could so easily hurt the Egyptians like that, but oh well.
I ended up having five armies fighting on five different fronts. I was kicking so much butt, it was awesome.
Yeah, it's amazing how much slaughtering can be done once you build up momentum. I had roughly the same situation you had, except in Barbarian Invasion. Playing as the Saxons, I decided to take England due to it's wonderful trade moneys. The Irish were pulverised so badly that I kept leaving behind those little swords stuck in the ground after each battle; you know, the ones that commemorate a particularly fantastic battle. Back on the mainland the Franks began to get uppity, and perhaps because they were also Christian the Western Roman Empire decided to have a go at me as well.
Britain was mine in about 5 or 6 turns. Shame no-one told me about the Romano-British. Fortunately I had a general who, by lucky allotment and then focused development of Virtues, was pretty much Batman. He loved the night you see. Loved it. He was an otherwise mediocre 4 star general, but at night he became a 7 star powerhouse. Full stack of all kinds of Romano-British troops tried to take Londinium by slowly marching at it. They met my full stack of Batman-led Saxons on the way. I lost half my soldiers, but not a single Romano-British soldier survived. Not even the Graal Knights. 8-)
Then the Franks got eaten by the Huns. I was all because I no longer had to worry about their elite cavalry and so on, but I was also all when it struck me that there were hundreds and hundreds of angry, hairy horse archers and even more elite cavalry knocking on my door. Did I mention how much I love the fact that when a faction has no more family members it disbands? Assassins can be glorious that way.
I actually like Rome better than M:TW2, as weird as that is. I just keep coming back to it.
One of the things I really is that all of the factions are actually different. MTW2 basically comes down to infantry, spears, archers/xbows, heavy cav, and missile cav, and all factions pretty much have one of each. While the factions do have strengths and weaknesses, there's nothing really stopping an experienced player from completely ignoring them and doing what they want, within reason. Want to play scots or moors that focus on heavy cav rather than infantry? No prob, your cav will be slightly weaker than other factions but nothing to worry about.
R:TW, on the other hand, has factions that are completely different. You can't take spain and macedonia, for example, and use the same tactics and expect them to work. You've got phalanx heavy factions, legionary factions, horse factions, and you have to play to your strengths.
Also the mods are great, and barbarian invasion is nice because unlike most of the kingdoms expansions it actually plays much different from the main campaign. It's fun to have a campaign that's pretty much chaos, and to randomly decide to take the franks and settle in persia or something random like that.
There are mods that deal with most of the major problems with ai. I don't mind the egyptians because even though they're dressed like they're from the mummy returns, they actually fight in battle like greeks for the most part with phalanx, etc, so no harm.
I haven't played Rome in awhile, and when you mentioned mods, I had to just check out what's out there for it. There are some pretty cool mods. Check out this Lord of the Rings one (you know that one had to be coming at some point):
I haven't played Rome in awhile, and when you mentioned mods, I had to just check out what's out there for it. There are some pretty cool mods. Check out this Lord of the Rings one (you know that one had to be coming at some point):
I haven't played Rome in awhile, and when you mentioned mods, I had to just check out what's out there for it. There are some pretty cool mods. Check out this Lord of the Rings one (you know that one had to be coming at some point):
One of the things I really is that all of the factions are actually different.
While I enjoyed Medieval 2, I only played it briefly compared to the time I spent with Rome and basically for this reason. I enjoyed a lot of the mechanics of Medieval 2, especially Dread vs. Chivalry, but I much preferred the atmosphere in Rome.
Also, war dogs. I had WAY, WAY, WAY too much fun with those. I often had 4 units of them in a full stack. A common tactic of mine in sieges was to send the dogs in and let them soften the defenders before moving in actual troops. Against lightly defended cities, this was often enough as the dogs would chase routing militia all the way to the city square and devour everything in sight. There are only two ways they could have been more fun. The first is if the audio cue for unleashing them was a clip saying "Release the hounds."
The second is they had bees in their mouths so that when they barked they shot bees.
Yeah, it's amazing how much slaughtering can be done once you build up momentum. I had roughly the same situation you had, except in Barbarian Invasion. Playing as the Saxons, I decided to take England due to it's wonderful trade moneys. The Irish were pulverised so badly that I kept leaving behind those little swords stuck in the ground after each battle; you know, the ones that commemorate a particularly fantastic battle. Back on the mainland the Franks began to get uppity, and perhaps because they were also Christian the Western Roman Empire decided to have a go at me as well.
Britain was mine in about 5 or 6 turns. Shame no-one told me about the Romano-British. Fortunately I had a general who, by lucky allotment and then focused development of Virtues, was pretty much Batman. He loved the night you see. Loved it. He was an otherwise mediocre 4 star general, but at night he became a 7 star powerhouse. Full stack of all kinds of Romano-British troops tried to take Londinium by slowly marching at it. They met my full stack of Batman-led Saxons on the way. I lost half my soldiers, but not a single Romano-British soldier survived. Not even the Graal Knights. 8-)
Then the Franks got eaten by the Huns. I was all because I no longer had to worry about their elite cavalry and so on, but I was also all when it struck me that there were hundreds and hundreds of angry, hairy horse archers and even more elite cavalry knocking on my door. Did I mention how much I love the fact that when a faction has no more family members it disbands? Assassins can be glorious that way.
1. Cool story.
2. Romano-British should have been a playable faction.
The Romano-British would've been fun, though I can't help but feel they would've made the game hilariously easy. Steamroll the English Isles, build a nice stack of super elite troops, invade the mainland, commence the murdering. Graal Knights alone are awesome, let alone the Faction's mix of otherwise fantastic units. They could've even started like the Huns, with no home but a pseudo-horde thing going on.
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I am currently playing as the Juili faction. I ground the Gauls into dust, the Spanish healed at my feet and am moving on Carthridge. The Greeks also tried attacking me so I am going to lay the smack down on them as well.
Playing on Medium settings all around. I just hate that I don't have enough family members to properly lead armies. How do you actually solve this?
For the most part we never gave in but man, he loved that game. He's in Japan now and I won't see him for a year and a half. That's all I have to add, good day sir.
Cavalry is completely overpowered. Phalanxes are completely overpowered. Both render spearmen completely worthless. The Roman factions are way too easy. The Egypt faction is absurdly fantasy styled and far too strong. Carthage is far too weak. Unlike the other total war games, the AI behaves too similarly each game. Egypt always dominates its region. Carthage always go down fast.
The only way I had fun in Rome was modding the game so that I could play as the most disadvantaged weak factions, like Spain and Numidia.
Multiplayer was pretty fun. But I haven't played it since Medieval 2 came out.
Oh, and the AI? I never get tired of that screenshot.
Play as: any faction with phalanxes. Armenia is my favourite.
Form a large semi circle of pikes. Put you general behind them. Send out your horse archers and kill your enemies. They won't attack your main army, and if your HA are cataphract archers, victory is automatic.
edit, nope, I do have it.
The last screenshot was all death by a basic arrow tower.
This isn't a movie. They have only to focus on one flank before the spartans roll over and you win.
I played Medieval a bit, and found it fun, never actually tried playing Rome though. I don't doubt its quality, i know it's good, i just need to be in a certain mood to actually devote the kind of time i'd like to. My dad, however, plays it exclusively (although on easy), and seems to enjoy taking over as much of the world as is possible. Also, I would be all over a '300 Spartans' scenario.
Actually, in the first campaign I played I had a rather Spartan-esque battle. I was playing as the Julii and had conquered all of North-Western Europe except for Briton and had now moved my main army south to Spain. Well, there was one town that was protected by... umm... one unit of Hastati, 2-4 Town Watch and one Cavalry. I wasn't paying attention to what was happening in that area too much and soon I noticed that the Britons had decided to invade with the largest fucking army in the world. Immediately I try to send some more troops from other cities to back them up but it's too late. They're sieged and are about to get rightly fucked.
The Britons attack with two battering rams. I position my troops in a bit of a "U" shape around the front door, with the Hastati at the base of the "U" and the town watch on the sides. I figure I'll lure their troops in through the front gate to the Hastati and then flank them with the Town Watch. This will prevent them from getting behind me or anything like that and completely eliminate their numbers advantage... for a time.
My plan works perfectly. The way it's set up more of my troops are actually engaged in battle then there's are and since my army was full of mighty Romans and they're all dirty barbarians, they get slaughtered. I fight off the first wave, which retreats, but then rallies and returns and it all starts over again. This goes on for a while until their second ram gets to the left side of my base and those dirty Britons storm in and flank me. I had time to strengthen my left flank and somehow still manage to hold them off for a time.
At this point I'm sure I'm going to lose but am convinced I will cripple their army enough that it will get bitched my guys later so I charge with my cavalry. Now this is where the overpowered cavalry comes in. By some off chance I kill their general and send their whole army into a retreat. I don't want them to rally this time so I send my cavalry after them, which basically stomps over their army from the ass up. The entire time I'm fucking flipping out and when the last of them were dead or retreated I felt a truly massive adrenaline rush.
Afterwards, the captain who was leading that fight was promoted to general for his valiant deeds and adopted into my family. It was so fucking amazing.
tl;dr 5-6 units of Romans fought off 2 thousand Britons. I got a general out of it.
It's not a sit down and utilize your base twitch gamer skills type of game, so to many it seems alien and they rage against it. To some of us, it's like heaven.
You wanna talk about broken play as one of the horse archer specializing factions in total Realism.
No it's not you dirty filthy liar.
Nothing's forgotten, nothing is ever forgotten
It's the game that made the Total War series popular. It's basically like a band hitting mainstream success - the old fans will always bemoan the good old times when they where the only ones following "their" band.
Eh, not really. I only dabbled with RTR. As I mentioned, I prefer EB. Any mod'll have its warts. Still, a vast improvement over vanilla.
Lots of neat mods for it too once you get tired of beating the barbarians into the ground
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Family members are based on how many territories you own. More territory= more family members. Also, generals who are out in the field tend to have a lot fewer children, so it's good to have them spend time in cities to attend their husbandly duties.
This is very true. Having cities set on automanage will only make you life harder.
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At www.totalrome.com, we often were given updates to the Napoleonic mods and they looked all very promising. (Course, it looks like Creative Assembly will be making a Napoleon title in the upcoming future, if rumors are true.)
Nah, I'm not with the Lordz. But, I had a real blast with their mod (dominated all my game time for a good two months) , and since they offer it for free, I figure mentioning it every now and again is the least I could do.
Those would be most interesting rumors, I hope the Creative Assembly team will take some notes from the Napoleonic Total War mod team, if not incorporate them outright.
Vices and Virtues.
My first time around, I chose the Scipii. After a brutal campaign to secure my section of Italy and Sicily, I marched my self into Africa, giving the Carthaginians an almighty beating for daring to get in my way. The Senate also wanted me to, which helps I suppose. After years of warfare with the Carthaginians and the Nubians, I turned my attention to the Egyptians (Chariots = ). Captured a wonderful little town that served as a choke point between Egypt and the Scipii part of Africa, and set my General, Aulus, as Governor. He'd been fighting for over fifteen years, so I figured he deserved a break.
Dude went totally, completely mental. It seems wading knee deep in foreign blood has that effect on people, but Aulus didn't take his new role well. At all. Madness set in early, resulting in an over 50 year old General mostly renowned for biting his servants all the time. Mind you, Aulus the Mad eventually became Aulus the Good after keeping taxes low, and became Aulus the Murderer or somesuch due to him training over a dozen assassins. This crazy, tax hating, murderous old bastard eventually sired a kid. Not just any kid, but a kid who was an 8 star general, who went on to more or less single handedly wipe out all of the Senate's army in one fateful battle.
Once while playing the game, I was doing such a bang-up job with my one army marching around Gaul. So I loaded an army on a ship and sent it to Ireland, taking the island easily, and Britain as well. I launched another army and took a very under-defended Alexandria, as well as Cairo and that other city further south. Surprised the heck out of me that I could so easily hurt the Egyptians like that, but oh well.
I ended up having five armies fighting on five different fronts. I was kicking so much butt, it was awesome.
Britain was mine in about 5 or 6 turns. Shame no-one told me about the Romano-British. Fortunately I had a general who, by lucky allotment and then focused development of Virtues, was pretty much Batman. He loved the night you see. Loved it. He was an otherwise mediocre 4 star general, but at night he became a 7 star powerhouse. Full stack of all kinds of Romano-British troops tried to take Londinium by slowly marching at it. They met my full stack of Batman-led Saxons on the way. I lost half my soldiers, but not a single Romano-British soldier survived. Not even the Graal Knights. 8-)
Then the Franks got eaten by the Huns. I was all because I no longer had to worry about their elite cavalry and so on, but I was also all when it struck me that there were hundreds and hundreds of angry, hairy horse archers and even more elite cavalry knocking on my door. Did I mention how much I love the fact that when a faction has no more family members it disbands? Assassins can be glorious that way.
One of the things I really is that all of the factions are actually different. MTW2 basically comes down to infantry, spears, archers/xbows, heavy cav, and missile cav, and all factions pretty much have one of each. While the factions do have strengths and weaknesses, there's nothing really stopping an experienced player from completely ignoring them and doing what they want, within reason. Want to play scots or moors that focus on heavy cav rather than infantry? No prob, your cav will be slightly weaker than other factions but nothing to worry about.
R:TW, on the other hand, has factions that are completely different. You can't take spain and macedonia, for example, and use the same tactics and expect them to work. You've got phalanx heavy factions, legionary factions, horse factions, and you have to play to your strengths.
Also the mods are great, and barbarian invasion is nice because unlike most of the kingdoms expansions it actually plays much different from the main campaign. It's fun to have a campaign that's pretty much chaos, and to randomly decide to take the franks and settle in persia or something random like that.
There are mods that deal with most of the major problems with ai. I don't mind the egyptians because even though they're dressed like they're from the mummy returns, they actually fight in battle like greeks for the most part with phalanx, etc, so no harm.
http://mods.moddb.com/6994/the-lord-of-the-rings-total-war/
Cool trailer.
That was masterful
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While I enjoyed Medieval 2, I only played it briefly compared to the time I spent with Rome and basically for this reason. I enjoyed a lot of the mechanics of Medieval 2, especially Dread vs. Chivalry, but I much preferred the atmosphere in Rome.
Also, war dogs. I had WAY, WAY, WAY too much fun with those. I often had 4 units of them in a full stack. A common tactic of mine in sieges was to send the dogs in and let them soften the defenders before moving in actual troops. Against lightly defended cities, this was often enough as the dogs would chase routing militia all the way to the city square and devour everything in sight. There are only two ways they could have been more fun. The first is if the audio cue for unleashing them was a clip saying "Release the hounds."
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1. Cool story.
2. Romano-British should have been a playable faction.
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