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I'd say that's a pretty good prediction. I'm actually wondering how things will turn out when/if she
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Meets up with Jon. Call me crazy, but I've got this pet theory (and at this point its completely theory - I really don't have many solid facts to support it) that Jon's mother was a Targaryen, and that his father wasn't Eddard Stark, but Arthur Dayne, the sword of the morning. Only time will tell if my supposition is correct I suppose.
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During the first book I actually found Daenerys somewhat unremarkable. I sympathized with her situation, but I can't say I was particularly fascinated by her parts of the story at all. The events of the second and third book really changed my opinion of her though. Its definitely one of the aspects of Martin's storytelling that I really like. He really seems able to make me reevaluate my surface impressions of his characters.
Although its very unlikely that it'll ever happen, my pick for a good King probably would have been Tyrion. He's got just enough political saavy to survive the dangers of leadership, and yet at the same time he has a certain sense of fairness, justice and an amazing degree of restraint.
Yeah, Dany is a huge favourite of mine. Her high morals are what set her apart from everyone else. [spoiler:03fecb4133]Oh, and the hot lesbo loving with her maids etc.[/spoiler:03fecb4133]
http://amoka.net/eng/gal/
Thats an awsome site with some nice ASOIAF art. I especially like the portraits.
Not to mention she's amazingly wise beyond her years. I love it when she manages to leave both Jorah Mormont and Arstan (alternate name used for those who haven't read book 3 yet
True enough....we certainly musn't forget that.
EDIT: Holy crap, that is indeed an awesome portrait site. There's the odd portrait I'm where I'm not sure I agree with the artist's interpretation of their ages (Sam looks a little older than I pictured him) but nonetheless, its some damn nice work.
Yeah [spoiler:cddbd11247]I can't believe she actually bannished Jorah. I thought she wouldn't go through with it/[/spoiler:cddbd11247]
Glad ya like the site.
I suspect Jon is the son of Robert and Ned's sister (hence his flashbacks to her making him promise something, and Robert's known feelings for the sister).
I suspect Dany will invade Dorne (whether willingly or not on their part, I don't know)--and soon, because Dorne probably isn't too happy with the current regime at this point.
And I suspect Coldhands is Benjen.
Also, I've been wondering: what happened to the youngest Stark kid? I don't remember reading him being killed off, but he sure seems to have vanished, so it's possible I missed it in all the mayhem.
Oh, and about Gregor: allow me to rephrase. At this point, he seems to be evil by nature, but it is possible that will change in the future. But once his big, bloated, rotting carcass is buried, I won't much care what his childhood was like, honestly.
Damn. You know....that's actually a very good question. Now that I think about it, I can't remember if Rickon's death was specifically mentioned.
In regards to Gregor, I'd normally agree with you, but I think its still a little early to count the Mountain out of the picture. Especially not since:
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Tywin Lannister donated his screaming carcass to an exiled maester who has all the makings of a mad scientist, with a hint of potential dabbling in things sorcerous or otherworldly. If anything ends up killing Gregor, my guess money would be on either the Hound, or Arya....or maybe even both. Come to think of it, in a series where things are coming back from the dead, I'd have to say that Gregor would be positively fucking terrifying as an Other.
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[spoiler:11540eb1b4]Jon Snow is Rhaegar Targaryen's son, Daenarys' half-brother, Eddard Stark's nephew, and true King of the Seven Kingdoms by right of succession.
Lyanna made Eddard promise to take Jon as his bastard, to give him the name Snow instead of Targaryen. The battle at the Tower of Joy was to decide the future king of the Seven Kingdoms: the Usurper, Robert Baratheon, or Rhaegar's last heir, Jon Targaryen. That would explain the absence of Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning, from either the Trident or King's Landing: he was busy guarding something more precious. That is also why all seven men who fought the last three of the Kingsguard at the gates of the Tower of Joy were all Stark men. Had Baratheon known of Jon Targaryen he would've had the boy killed, Lyanna's love be damned.
There are a number of consequences from this.
Most importantly, Jon has a stronger claim to the Iron Throne than both Stannis and Daenarys. With Aerys dead, Rhaegar would have been king. With Rhaegar dead, his children Rhaenys and Aegon would have been king and queen. With them dead, Jon is next in line, before Viserys and Daenarys. Unless, of course, Jon and Daenarys marry, which would fit Targaryen traditions...
I mean, the bastard of Winterfell, Wildling, and sworn man of the Night's Watch is actually the true king of the Seven Kingdoms...? That is a fricking legend right there. It's too damned crazy to be wrong.[/spoiler:11540eb1b4]
Whew.
Yeah, I've read about this before. Its very possible.
[spoiler:b5ee18d852]Rickon was split from Bran and company. Osha took him away for safety reasons... cant quite remember where Osha took him.
That whole Coldhands thing was very creepy. It's certainly gunna be interesting to read about later.
Does anyone reckon Jon and Dany will 'hook up'?[/spoiler:b5ee18d852]
I think its entirely possible. It would also work if jon is [spoiler:d61741f5ab] Lyanna's son from being raped by Rhaegar. It would be a better motivation for Lyanna to want to protect him by having Eddard take him in. Jon' would still be a threat even as a bastard and Robert still would have wanted him killed [/spoiler:d61741f5ab]
Good thinking.
[spoiler:b826986552]What 'big' character do you guys think will die in 'Feast'? [/spoiler:b826986552]
[spoiler:0c33027a42] Jaime [/spoiler:0c33027a42]
Theres no way Martin would kill Tyrion... yet.
nexus,
http://amoka.net/eng/gal/
Also agree with the Gregor point: if George had wanted him dead, he would have died already. He's being kept around for SOME reason.
Here's another question: what the hell is up with Dondarrion? Is his...unusual durability similar to that of the Others? (Dammit, I've got to reread all these books--it's been three years).
Oh yeah, shit, as a member of the Watch, he gave up all claim. I forgot.
Yeah, that just moved his status from "strongest claim" to "weakest claim".
Still, it would be an interesting moral dilemma.
[spoiler:fcb37574f2]I also thought Jon was the child of Lyanna and Rhaegar. The only thing making me second guess that theory is I remember Vicerys saying that all Targaryens have the silver hair and purple eyes. This may be different for Jon since both parents weren't Targaryens, but the fact that he's the only Stark that looks like a Stark (the other kids look like Tullys) make me think that I'm either wrong about that theory or both the Starks and the Targaryens have weak genes, with Starks being the stronger of the two.[/spoiler:fcb37574f2]
Also, Dondarrion's "unusual durability" is due to Thoros of Myr's magic. IIRC he "breathes fire" back into his body. But even he didn't know really what he was doing, or how many times it would work.
God loves you.
At least, archive.org does. Here's the link.
Edit: also, there's a Daenerys chapter buried even further back.
A Game of Thrones
A Clash of Kings
A Storm of Swords
A Feast for Crows
The remaining three are, IIRC (potential spoilers):
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A Dance with Dragons--This book will contain all that was deemed excess in A Feast For Crows; essentially, anything not in the South. By the title, ADWD will also feature Dany becoming more and more adept at politics, and probably more and more powerful.
The Winds of Winter--Sounds as if this is the book where the Others make their major offensive, which would make it a good time for Daenerys and her dragons to make an appearance...and for Dany and Jon Snow to meet.
A Time For Wolves--House Stark 4tw? It may sound crazy now, all things considered but they have Jon as Lord Commander of the Night Watch and, if certain crazy theories are accurate, legitimate heir of the Night Watch; Sansa being tutored under the keenest political mind in the Seven Kingdoms; Arya becoming a deadly assassin; Bran learning magic; and Rickon...well...he has a big puppy, and is batshit crazy.
Its an interesting dilemma admittedly. I mean, one of the very particular quirks about the setting is the length of the seasons. Given the occasional seasonal references (ie. people not even having seen a winter in their given lifetime), you have to wonder exactly how long the Winter, and hence the appearance of the Others will actually last.
I believe each book has covered roughly one year so far. A Feast For Crows was supposed to cover a span of five, but it got split in two, so who can say?
I love you.
True, but it is more of a Medieval setting, where the age of adulthood is quite low. Jon, I would say, is already a man. Arya is well on her way to adulthood as well.
[spoiler:130fba0288]Are you kidding? This is George Martin we're talking about. One or both of them will have died by then.[/spoiler:130fba0288]
Didja all read "The Hedge Knight" and the sequel story? Thoughts?
Damn you thread!
I know I'll at least have to reread Storm of Swords before reading Feast.
Nope. All he can do is some brutal violence. :roll:
I hate hypocrisy.
I could see that happening. And if that one person is Sansa, I am going to burn every Martin book I own in protest.
A Feast for Crows isn't out yet.