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You have a thread about conspiracies and you don't bring up UFO's? WTF.
They aren't that interesting, and everyone knows they were built by the Nazis.
Everyone knows they have been around a lot longer then that. Ancient Sumerians have left some red flags about this as well as dozens of other ancient cultures.
You have a thread about conspiracies and you don't bring up UFO's? WTF.
They aren't that interesting, and everyone knows they were built by the Nazis.
Everyone knows they have been around a lot longer then that. Ancient Sumerians have left some red flags about this as well as dozens of other ancient cultures.
Silly lady, those aren't extraterrestial UFO's...they are time traveller UFO's!
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"Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon..."
Though according to one ancient text i read, its actually vampire time travelling nazis foollng the egyptians into believing they are gods.
Course then the said ancient manuscript also goes on to explain that it was aliens that gen-engenieered the vampire time travelling nazis in the first place.
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"Over the centuries, mankind has tried many ways of combating the forces of evil...prayer, fasting, good works and so on. Up until Doom, no one seemed to have thought about the double-barrel shotgun. Eat leaden death, demon..."
My brain is crying because it was just raped. My parietal lobes were just torn apart by a giant dick made out of delusional bullshit.
Well I liked the song. What was it?
Anyone know?!
Oh common, it's Pink Floyd. It's is there anybody out there? from The Wall.
You can't have any pudding if you don't eat yer' meat. How can you have any meat if you don't eat yer pudding?!
WRONG, GUESS AGAIN! WRONG, GUESS AGAIN! IF YA DONT EATCHER MEAT, YA CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING! HOW CAN YA HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YA DON'T EACHTER MEAT?!?!?! YOU! YES, YOU BEHIND THE BIKE SHEDS! STAND STILL LADDIE!
Eh, water fluoridation isn't really analogous to vaccination. I actually don't really care that much about fluoridation either way, because both the proponents and the opponents significantly exaggerate their claims. Fluoride in drinking water is unlikely to cause fluoride toxicity, but it's also a relatively poor way of using fluoride to protect teeth. It needs to be applied directly to the teeth from toothpaste or a fluoride solution. Swallowing it doesn't do much harm or good.
What does bug me is that anti-fluoridation wackos have managed to demonize fluoride to such a degree that people will pay a premium for fluoride-free toothpaste, which is just a really silly idea.
Er...what? There's a lot of evidence out there pointing out that fluoridation of town water is one of the most effective dental preventative measures a government can take. This is a nice meta-analysis (go back on the URL for the full thing it's just the exec summary).
I don't really want to argue this in any detail, because that would imply that I oppose water fluoridation. I don't; I support it, and if I didn't already live in an area with fluoridated water then I would vote for any fluoridation measure that came on the ballot.
That said, water fluoridation as a strategy first gained momentum in the 1940s and 1950s, before fluoride toothpaste and mouthwash became ubiquitous household items. When the anti-fluoridation movement drives me nuts isn't when they just oppose water fluoridation, but when they oppose fluoride in general. If you brush your teeth 2-3 times a day with fluoride toothpaste, having fluoridated water isn't likely to do much more good for you (and yes I know many children - especially poor children - don't do so) but when parents start taking away all fluoride products from their kids because they believe fluoride is going to give their kids stomach cancer or some such nonsense, that's when I start to get a little wrathful.
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every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
I only got through about 2 minutes of that. "Rome falls 9 times an hour"...that's where I gave up.
# That as the complexity and sophistication of human thought and culture increase, universal novelty approaches a Koch curve of infinite exponential growth.
# That in the time immediately prior to, and during this omega point of infinite novelty, anything and everything conceivable to the human imagination will occur simultaneously.
He thinks novelty reached it's peak in 1968. I wonder what his thoughts on the internet would have been. Hmm, I'm at his 'summary', and I have no fucking clue what the fuck his point is.
I only got through about 2 minutes of that. "Rome falls 9 times an hour"...that's where I gave up.
# That as the complexity and sophistication of human thought and culture increase, universal novelty approaches a Koch curve of infinite exponential growth.
# That in the time immediately prior to, and during this omega point of infinite novelty, anything and everything conceivable to the human imagination will occur simultaneously.
He thinks novelty reached it's peak in 1968. I wonder what his thoughts on the internet would have been.
Is this anything like the singularity whack-jobs that believe Moore's Law will end us all?
I laugh when I read about them.
It's sad that some of them were respected scientists.
I only got through about 2 minutes of that. "Rome falls 9 times an hour"...that's where I gave up.
# That as the complexity and sophistication of human thought and culture increase, universal novelty approaches a Koch curve of infinite exponential growth.
# That in the time immediately prior to, and during this omega point of infinite novelty, anything and everything conceivable to the human imagination will occur simultaneously.
He thinks novelty reached it's peak in 1968. I wonder what his thoughts on the internet would have been.
Is this anything like the singularity whack-jobs that believe Moore's Law will end us all?
I laugh when I read about them.
It's sad that some of them were respected scientists.
It sounds like it's the same thought process, but from a different starting point.
Was McKenna's point that our universal goal should be to come up with new ideas (middle sized fish)? If there was another point, I missed it.
I refuse to believe that the 60s was the most novel decade ever.
Edit: So I watched some of other videos featuring Terrence, and the most novel event in history will occur on 2012, but not necessarily doomsday. I'm hoping it's that we finally get those flying cars.
Maian Proficee.
12/21/12
I see this scrawled across the bathroom doors at my college.
Funny, I thought the Mayan world-end was the 23rd, not the 21st.
If I were out to destroy the world I think I'd try to do it on that day just to fuck with people.
Whenever I hear about this, I always just ask the person trying to convince me that the world's gonna end in 2012 if it's going to end at Midnight GMT, Eastern Time, or perhaps the local time for the area where the Mayans civilization was?
This pisses them off to no end, because they remember what I remember: Back in 2000 the world didn't end on GMT or Eastern Time, or when Macao (sp?) first hit "the new millennium" (which really happened in 2001 anyway, since there was NO year 0.)
How could a ship that's made out of metal be sunk by an iceberg? If icebergs are so tough, why don't people use them to build ships instead of metal?
Either the best joke ever or best non-joke ever, though the logic is flawless!
It's Maddox. He's making fun of the idiots who say things like "well if the black boxes survive the plane crashing, why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff!"
How could a ship that's made out of metal be sunk by an iceberg? If icebergs are so tough, why don't people use them to build ships instead of metal?
Either the best joke ever or best non-joke ever, though the logic is flawless!
It's Maddox. He's making fun of the idiots who say things like "well if the black boxes survive the plane crashing, why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff!"
Yeah, quoting Maddox is up there with quoting Ayn Rand. :P
How could a ship that's made out of metal be sunk by an iceberg? If icebergs are so tough, why don't people use them to build ships instead of metal?
Either the best joke ever or best non-joke ever, though the logic is flawless!
It's Maddox. He's making fun of the idiots who say things like "well if the black boxes survive the plane crashing, why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff!"
Yeah, quoting Maddox is up there with quoting Ayn Rand. :P
You saw that tool that started the thread, he lowered my BS guard temporarily :P
and bite me, I covered that it was most likely a joke in the original post
You know this might almost be a halfway interesting (meaning not necessarily true, but something to get you thinking) conspiracy theory, and something not too far-fetched...
...UNTIL HE GETS TO THE PART ABOUT KILLING OFF 80% OF THE WORLD. Seriously.
I'm thinking "rich elite ruling the world... we're not far from that now... combining into a world government... ooh, kinda scary... mass genocide... wait, fuck, what?"
I just don't get the train of thought.
And in the trailer it mentions that they are going to use technology to replace us and live forever. Like robots I guess.
I'm not trying to make a point-by-point on how this is guy is full of shit, as I think that's obvious, but it's just another classic case where someone starts talking, and you think they may be intelligent, and they start saying some really interesting shit, and then follow up that interesting shit with "and that's why black people are inferior..."
Just bizarre how quickly someone can make a left turn to crazyville.
You know this might almost be a halfway interesting (meaning not necessarily true, but something to get you thinking) conspiracy theory, and something not too far-fetched...
...UNTIL HE GETS TO THE PART ABOUT KILLING OFF 80% OF THE WORLD. Seriously.
I'm thinking "rich elite ruling the world... we're not far from that now... combining into a world government... ooh, kinda scary... mass genocide... wait, fuck, what?"
I just don't get the train of thought.
And in the trailer it mentions that they are going to use technology to replace us and live forever. Like robots I guess.
I'm not trying to make a point-by-point on how this is guy is full of shit, as I think that's obvious, but it's just another classic case where someone starts talking, and you think they may be intelligent, and they start saying some really interesting shit, and then follow up that interesting shit with "and that's why black people are inferior..."
Just bizarre how quickly someone can make a left turn to crazyville.
This is exactly how these things work and why they work. If they put the craziness out there in the beginning only mental cases would agree, but when they hide it a bit and make some logic points in the beginning, the less informed may be pursuaded that it isnt pure craziness.
Was McKenna's point that our universal goal should be to come up with new ideas (middle sized fish)? If there was another point, I missed it.
I refuse to believe that the 60s was the most novel decade ever.
Edit: So I watched some of other videos featuring Terrence, and the most novel event in history will occur on 2012, but not necessarily doomsday. I'm hoping it's that we finally get those flying cars.
Terence's answer was usually mass UFO contacts, AI, global awakening (not sure what that means), all of them at once, or probably none of them.
Edit: What exactly could follow the most novel event in history? It's like asking how to trace a graph and follow a line across its asymptote without picking up your pencil.
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Was McKenna's point that our universal goal should be to come up with new ideas (middle sized fish)? If there was another point, I missed it.
I refuse to believe that the 60s was the most novel decade ever.
Edit: So I watched some of other videos featuring Terrence, and the most novel event in history will occur on 2012, but not necessarily doomsday. I'm hoping it's that we finally get those flying cars.
Terence's answer was usually mass UFO contacts, AI, global awakening (not sure what that means), all of them at once, or probably none of them.
Edit: What exactly could follow the most novel event in history? It's like asking how to trace a graph and follow a line across its asymptote without picking up your pencil.
Terence's answer was usually mass UFO contacts, AI, global awakening (not sure what that means), all of them at once, or probably none of them.
Edit: What exactly could follow the most novel event in history? It's like asking how to trace a graph and follow a line across its asymptote without picking up your pencil.
Yeah, I watched some more of his videos and came to the conclusion that he was likely insane or too heavily reliant on narcotics.
He did suggest that the invention of time travel could explain the line dropping off the graph. I think that gets to the root of the problem with his theories -- humans created the scales of time (it isn't a natural law or even reality).
I wouldn't say he did a lot of narcotics. He was into uh the whole psychadelic uppers with the psychadelic mushrooms and DMT. Although I cant really understand what the holy hell he's talking about, I'm glad somebody here with a higher intelligence digested and explained it to me in sobor language.
The best are the guys that claim that planes didn't even crash into the WTC.
I mean, suggesting that elements within the Government knew about it ahead of time and even helped it along is one thing (nutty), but to suggest that the planes never existed is absolute insanity.
That just blows my mind. They claim the footage was manufactured and all the channels (and people?) were in on it. Including the victims? How the hell do you come to that conclusion? I really want to know. You find these nuts on youtube along with all the Ron Paul voters.
The best are the guys that claim that planes didn't even crash into the WTC.
I've come across the guys who say a plane didn't hit the Pentagon and I can see why they've come to that conclusion. I've seen the guys who say that it wasn't the "missing" planes that hit, but actually some military transports and they're a bit further out there.
No planes at all though is a whole new brand of crazy to me.
Or how they say that a plane didn't hit the pentagon, and a plane didn't crash in PA.
So now we are missing two planes and have a bunch of damage that they don't have a more reasonable answer for. Yes, this theory is certainly more believable than "one plane crashed into a field, the other into the pentagon."
The guy that made the "loose change" video also blatantly lied on numerous accounts in the video, so why does anyone believe the five kinds of shit that comes out of his mouth? IE "The world trade center buildings were the only steel buildings to ever collapse from a fire." What the fuck? Did he miss the part where jumbo jets crashed into them? It wasn't just "a fire."
The buildings were designed to withstand that kind of impact. It's just that when that much jet fuel is on fire, the steel structure of the building tends to lose a massive amount of rigidity and collapse.
Or how they say that a plane didn't hit the pentagon, and a plane didn't crash in PA.
So now we are missing two planes and have a bunch of damage that they don't have a more reasonable answer for. Yes, this theory is certainly more believable than "one plane crashed into a field, the other into the pentagon."
The guy that made the "loose change" video also blatantly lied on numerous accounts in the video, so why does anyone believe the five kinds of shit that comes out of his mouth? IE "The world trade center buildings were the only steel buildings to ever collapse from a fire." What the fuck? Did he miss the part where jumbo jets crashed into them? It wasn't just "a fire."
the "plane didn't hit the pentagon" arguments really annoy my old Mass Comm professor, since she actually witnessed the crash there
The buildings were designed to withstand that kind of impact. It's just that when that much jet fuel is on fire, the steel structure of the building tends to lose a massive amount of rigidity and collapse.
My point is that it wasn't just a fire that knocked them down.
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I only got through about 2 minutes of that. "Rome falls 9 times an hour"...that's where I gave up.
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Silly lady, those aren't extraterrestial UFO's...they are time traveller UFO's!
-- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
Course then the said ancient manuscript also goes on to explain that it was aliens that gen-engenieered the vampire time travelling nazis in the first place.
-- (Terry Pratchett, alt.fan.pratchett)
It's just laughable to think they are controlling our govarmentz.
Oh common, it's Pink Floyd. It's is there anybody out there? from The Wall.
WRONG, GUESS AGAIN! WRONG, GUESS AGAIN! IF YA DONT EATCHER MEAT, YA CAN'T HAVE ANY PUDDING! HOW CAN YA HAVE ANY PUDDING IF YA DON'T EACHTER MEAT?!?!?! YOU! YES, YOU BEHIND THE BIKE SHEDS! STAND STILL LADDIE!
I don't really want to argue this in any detail, because that would imply that I oppose water fluoridation. I don't; I support it, and if I didn't already live in an area with fluoridated water then I would vote for any fluoridation measure that came on the ballot.
That said, water fluoridation as a strategy first gained momentum in the 1940s and 1950s, before fluoride toothpaste and mouthwash became ubiquitous household items. When the anti-fluoridation movement drives me nuts isn't when they just oppose water fluoridation, but when they oppose fluoride in general. If you brush your teeth 2-3 times a day with fluoride toothpaste, having fluoridated water isn't likely to do much more good for you (and yes I know many children - especially poor children - don't do so) but when parents start taking away all fluoride products from their kids because they believe fluoride is going to give their kids stomach cancer or some such nonsense, that's when I start to get a little wrathful.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
If the Nazi's could time travel why just the Egyptians? Why not...cheese?
Funny, I thought the Mayan world-end was the 23rd, not the 21st.
If I were out to destroy the world I think I'd try to do it on that day just to fuck with people.
# That as the complexity and sophistication of human thought and culture increase, universal novelty approaches a Koch curve of infinite exponential growth.
# That in the time immediately prior to, and during this omega point of infinite novelty, anything and everything conceivable to the human imagination will occur simultaneously.
He thinks novelty reached it's peak in 1968. I wonder what his thoughts on the internet would have been. Hmm, I'm at his 'summary', and I have no fucking clue what the fuck his point is.
I laugh when I read about them.
It's sad that some of them were respected scientists.
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Either the best joke ever or best non-joke ever, though the logic is flawless!
I refuse to believe that the 60s was the most novel decade ever.
Edit: So I watched some of other videos featuring Terrence, and the most novel event in history will occur on 2012, but not necessarily doomsday. I'm hoping it's that we finally get those flying cars.
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Whenever I hear about this, I always just ask the person trying to convince me that the world's gonna end in 2012 if it's going to end at Midnight GMT, Eastern Time, or perhaps the local time for the area where the Mayans civilization was?
This pisses them off to no end, because they remember what I remember: Back in 2000 the world didn't end on GMT or Eastern Time, or when Macao (sp?) first hit "the new millennium" (which really happened in 2001 anyway, since there was NO year 0.)
It's Maddox. He's making fun of the idiots who say things like "well if the black boxes survive the plane crashing, why don't they make the whole plane out of that stuff!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IamhWgt-hE&feature=related
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You saw that tool that started the thread, he lowered my BS guard temporarily :P
and bite me, I covered that it was most likely a joke in the original post
...UNTIL HE GETS TO THE PART ABOUT KILLING OFF 80% OF THE WORLD. Seriously.
I'm thinking "rich elite ruling the world... we're not far from that now... combining into a world government... ooh, kinda scary... mass genocide... wait, fuck, what?"
I just don't get the train of thought.
And in the trailer it mentions that they are going to use technology to replace us and live forever. Like robots I guess.
I'm not trying to make a point-by-point on how this is guy is full of shit, as I think that's obvious, but it's just another classic case where someone starts talking, and you think they may be intelligent, and they start saying some really interesting shit, and then follow up that interesting shit with "and that's why black people are inferior..."
Just bizarre how quickly someone can make a left turn to crazyville.
This is exactly how these things work and why they work. If they put the craziness out there in the beginning only mental cases would agree, but when they hide it a bit and make some logic points in the beginning, the less informed may be pursuaded that it isnt pure craziness.
Terence's answer was usually mass UFO contacts, AI, global awakening (not sure what that means), all of them at once, or probably none of them.
Edit: What exactly could follow the most novel event in history? It's like asking how to trace a graph and follow a line across its asymptote without picking up your pencil.
Bend the paper!
There's a bit on the 9\11 bullshit at 39:56 Kinda clears a bit up. A tee bit. A smidgen.
Yeah, I watched some more of his videos and came to the conclusion that he was likely insane or too heavily reliant on narcotics.
He did suggest that the invention of time travel could explain the line dropping off the graph. I think that gets to the root of the problem with his theories -- humans created the scales of time (it isn't a natural law or even reality).
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Yeah time is nothing more then an illusion.
I wouldn't say he did a lot of narcotics. He was into uh the whole psychadelic uppers with the psychadelic mushrooms and DMT. Although I cant really understand what the holy hell he's talking about, I'm glad somebody here with a higher intelligence digested and explained it to me in sobor language.
He does bring some interesting theories though.
http://deoxy.org/t_ladder.htm
I mean, suggesting that elements within the Government knew about it ahead of time and even helped it along is one thing (nutty), but to suggest that the planes never existed is absolute insanity.
But srzly. 911.
I've come across the guys who say a plane didn't hit the Pentagon and I can see why they've come to that conclusion. I've seen the guys who say that it wasn't the "missing" planes that hit, but actually some military transports and they're a bit further out there.
No planes at all though is a whole new brand of crazy to me.
So now we are missing two planes and have a bunch of damage that they don't have a more reasonable answer for. Yes, this theory is certainly more believable than "one plane crashed into a field, the other into the pentagon."
The guy that made the "loose change" video also blatantly lied on numerous accounts in the video, so why does anyone believe the five kinds of shit that comes out of his mouth? IE "The world trade center buildings were the only steel buildings to ever collapse from a fire." What the fuck? Did he miss the part where jumbo jets crashed into them? It wasn't just "a fire."
the "plane didn't hit the pentagon" arguments really annoy my old Mass Comm professor, since she actually witnessed the crash there
My point is that it wasn't just a fire that knocked them down.