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[GOUGE ON] Steam doubles prices for Australia

Sushi_KSushi_K Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Games and Technology
From Kotaku Australia:
The eagle eyes of tipster Lev Arris picked up on the fact that Activision's Call of Duty 4 offering on Steam close to doubled in price last night, from $US 49.95 to $US 88.50.

For comparison, here's the US version of Steam's CoD 4 page with the original deal.

According to a local Activision representative, the $US 49.95 price for our region was an error on Steam's part, not Activision's, and should never have been listed as such, as it was essentially undercutting Oz retailers. The increase is therefore a correction rather than a planned mark-up. Regardless, it still smarts.

Props to those who noticed the deal during the 11 or so days it lasted.

What the hell Activision? In the case of digital delivery, the last bogus claim for Australia paying extra - due to shipping costs falls apart. I can't think of any reason for this other than retailers like EB and the publishers are price fixing against consumers in a captive market.

The great thing about Steam was that you could get games for a reasonable price down here without the hassle of importing, but I guess the good times are over.

Inyourendo!
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  • sonictksonictk Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The funny thing is the Orange Box now officially costs like a whole 9 bucks cheaper than what stores are retailing at here, and before it was even cheaper for people like me who pre-ordered, yet stores are taking off the bundled deals they had (free mousepads, notebooks and other cheap shit) and still keeping the same high price tag. So essentially it'd be cheaper to purchase the game over Steam, which seems really weird.

    I guess stores here are either retarded or counting on the fact that people here are retarded. I could actually see the latter being the case though.

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  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Looks like this is just CoD4 so far.

    Not a good sign of things to come. I'm not going to be buying games through steam at retail price. I buy them for US prices, or they can go fuck themselves

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    No way! Game prices in Australia are ridiculously marked up! Thank goodness there is a thread!

    (also this is why you import if you can be be bothered waiting an extra week)

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  • PhilthePillPhilthePill Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Fuck that.

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  • EdcrabEdcrab Actually a hack Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Man, and to think I had the audacity to moan about CoD4's $69.95 Steam price tag in the UK. Blargh.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Just because I am talking about NIN in another thread.

    From Wikipedia -
    In May 2007, Reznor made a post on his blog on the official Nine Inch Nails website condemning Universal Music Group for their pricing and distribution plans for Year Zero. He criticized the company's retail pricing of Year Zero in Australia as "ABSURD", concluding that "as a reward for being a 'true fan' you get ripped off". Reznor went on to say that as "the climate grows more and more desperate for record labels, their answer to their mostly self-inflicted wounds seems to be to screw the consumer over even more." Reznor's post, specifically his criticism of the recording industry at large, elicited considerable media attention.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFXivarypE4

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  • SunshineLollypopsRainbowsSunshineLollypopsRainbows __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    Are...Are you fucking kidding?

    Man. *points to my sig*

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    Australia is totally shafted for each and every entertainment release ever.

    But at least we're not fatasses.
  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    When I have to deal with shit like this, I just aquire the title using other means. Means they probably don't approve of.

    Fuck them.

    Had issues getting Titan Quest the other day through steam, aparently not available in my region.

    Fine.

    I'll get it elsewhere.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    What the fucking hell.

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  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Does anyone know who we contact about this to complain bitterly?

    I'm asuming this is Activitions fault, or maybe Valves fault for letting them do bullshit like this

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  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    It's shit like this that actually hurt me. As a consumer, I make a conscience effort to support the game industry. I pay full price for games. I don't buy second hand titles. I don't trade in my games. I want the game industry to be healthy and successful. But then this kind of thing... it makes me feel betrayed.

    It's not a nice feeling.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Activision stole my mother and raped my baby.

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  • WylderneedshelpWylderneedshelp Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I picked up my orange box online for US$49.99.. Thats about AU$57. In stores it was $99.

    I was all set to proclaim Steam as the only place I'll ever get new games again (until SC2). Then they pull this shit.....

    Oh well.

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  • noobertnoobert Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Fuck that.

    Of course they should be undercutting Australian retailers, its digital distribution. I'm pretty pissed.

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I picked up my orange box online for US$49.99.. Thats about AU$57. In stores it was $99.

    I was all set to proclaim Steam as the only place I'll ever get new games again (until SC2). Then they pull this shit.....

    Oh well.

    I guess they could have removed the game for purchase entirely.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Nobody is going to buy this. They'll either buy a cheap version from Hong Kong or go to JB-Hifi.

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  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah, there is something wrong when it's cheaper to buy retail than buy digitally distributed. JB will be less than that

    I wonder if that price will change to reflect the fluctuation in the dollar. Will the game change price every day?

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So...

    PlayAsia for the win. =(

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    It's only COD4. I just checked in a panic.
    Good thing I don't want it.

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  • VelmeranVelmeran Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Man, thats so fucked up, glad China prices the games for what is actually affordable to the market and not in contrast to the US (like they do for parts...). I got BF2142 for 70RMB, thats a legit copy, in China, about $9 american.

    Only problem is selection is ass most of the time, and I have to registry hack the installs to get it into english, fun times.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Velmeran wrote: »
    Man, thats so fucked up, glad China prices the games for what is actually affordable to the market and not in contrast to the US (like they do for parts...). I got BF2142 for 70RMB, thats a legit copy, in China, about $9 american.

    Only problem is selection is ass most of the time, and I have to registry hack the installs to get it into english, fun times.
    Whaaaat. I want BF2142 for $9 US. Could you PM me a link?

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    He bought it in China. Not online.

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  • Dublo7Dublo7 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Oh, I see.

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  • Sushi_KSushi_K Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Another thing, what ever happened with the so-called "free trade agreement" with the U.S.? Or is it just that companies are free to trade predatorialy in the region?

    I guess the reason that this sticks in my craw is that, having lived most of my life in the states, I didn't know how bad PAL had it. As a PC gamer the discrepancy didn't affect me that much, as PC games are very cheap second hand, completely region free, and for some reason actually release without much delay (with notable exceptions - I'm looking at you Psychonauts).

    I got a Wii when it came out, mostly because I wanted something different, and I had missed the ease of console gaming. I've got a PC for hi-def and complicated controls and a Wii for back to basics and waggle. The pain of the PAL screw-job was eased by a relatively unmolested supply of PC games to occupy me while I waited out the PAL Wii delays. Are the good times coming to an end? How long before they start region locking PC games, i.e. forcing online activation that only lets games be played in the region they were purchased? Sadly, Valve already did when the invalidated Southeast Asian Orange Boxes being played in the U.S.

    The advent of digital delivery was a huge step forward towards the realization of the benefits of a globalized economy. Unfortunately, this sort of 19th century mercantile, protectionist, railway-baron style price fixing undoes most of those benefits. And who profits? Until about 6 years ago, the justification for high Australian prices was the exchange rate. Well, the rate has been pushing 90 AU cents to the dollar for over three years. The games get bought from the publishers in $US. The retailers don't pay their employees higher wages. So somebody in the corporate chain is getting filthy rich - at the consumers' expense.

    I should note that this isn't limited to games strictly, but technology in general. The case of Steam is unique in that the retailers can't hide behind the ridiculous notion that it costs more to ship products from the factories in Asia to Australia than to the U.S. After all, with Steam, its just ones and zeroes coming down the pipe.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    Well, there you go. The code has to travel further down the tubes. Problem is, the tubes follow the ocean floor from the U.S. to australia. When the game gets there, they have to spend a lot of energy pulling it up the continental shelf.

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  • Mr_SnuffleMr_Snuffle Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    And they have to convert the bits from NTSC to PAL, otherwise we can't see them on our monitors

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  • Marty81Marty81 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    To be fair, bandwidth does cost more in Australia (or so I'm told)...although it's the consumer who pays for the bandwidth, not the distributor.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    It's stupid.

    Assassin's Creed came out here in Australia priced at $120 AUD.

    Which is $104USD.

    Seriously, at what point can you justify a translation in cost from $60 to $104?

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

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  • foursquaremanfoursquareman Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I hope this doesn't flow on to the other games available on Steam. I was planning on buying the Orange Box off Steam when I got some spare cash.

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  • KazhiimKazhiim __BANNED USERS regular
    edited November 2007
    The majority of (me) thinks activision forced Valve to raise the price.

    A small, cynical part of me thinks this is just like when valve "bricked" the asian Orange Box copies in the U.S.

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  • DrovekDrovek Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That's seriously fucked up. Activision worried they're undercutting? Sell it through Steam at a reasonable price and maybe people will consider buying it in the first place!
    I hope this doesn't flow on to the other games available on Steam. I was planning on buying the Orange Box off Steam when I got some spare cash.

    Hopefully not. Apparently it's the publisher that decides the pricing. In the case of Valve games they decide their Steam prices (retail is through EA) and I don't think they would want to follow suit after the reaction Activision got out of this one.

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  • devoirdevoir Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    The problem is the vast majority of the consumer base in Australia isn't aware, because this is how it's always been and they don't follow currency trends.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    devoir wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    The problem is the vast majority of the consumer base in Australia isn't aware, because this is how it's always been and they don't follow currency trends.

    They'll all wake up once you hit pairity with our increasingly worthless American currency. That's what happened in Canada, anyway. Give it a few years. Hell, if we elect another Republican, give it one year.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    Hi5.

    Seriously if it's too expensive don't buy it.

    You don't hear me bitching about the price of Ferraris.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Blaket wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    Hi5.

    Seriously if it's too expensive don't buy it.

    You don't hear me bitching about the price of Ferraris.

    No, but I bet you'd be bitching if every car you could buy cost twice as much as the same exact car in another country, even after shipping.

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Blaket wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    Hi5.

    Seriously if it's too expensive don't buy it.

    You don't hear me bitching about the price of Ferraris.

    No, but I bet you'd be bitching if every car you could buy cost twice as much as the same exact car in another country, even after shipping.

    Cars in New Zealand sell for the same price or cheaper and come with a hell of alot more standard features included.

    Are you going to start a thread about that as well?

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Publishers definitely still have digital distribution by the balls. As long as such a huge portion of their income comes from retail sales, they can't afford to piss off retailers by undercutting in-store prices. People who bitch that Steam doesn't offer a price reduction are only making it worse by not giving it their business.
    Blaket wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    Hi5.

    Seriously if it's too expensive don't buy it.

    You don't hear me bitching about the price of Ferraris.

    So you use that justification to steal Ferraris?

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Zek wrote: »
    Publishers definitely still have digital distribution by the balls. As long as such a huge portion of their income comes from retail sales, they can't afford to piss off retailers by undercutting in-store prices. People who bitch that Steam doesn't offer a price reduction are only making it worse by not giving it their business.
    Blaket wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    Hi5.

    Seriously if it's too expensive don't buy it.

    You don't hear me bitching about the price of Ferraris.

    So you use that justification to steal Ferraris?

    I don't know about you, but I don't pirate games. I buy them.

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  • ZekZek Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Blaket wrote: »
    Zek wrote: »
    Publishers definitely still have digital distribution by the balls. As long as such a huge portion of their income comes from retail sales, they can't afford to piss off retailers by undercutting in-store prices. People who bitch that Steam doesn't offer a price reduction are only making it worse by not giving it their business.
    Blaket wrote: »
    Kazhiim wrote: »
    you suckers are paying for it?

    I mean, that's how I'd justify it.

    Hi5.

    Seriously if it's too expensive don't buy it.

    You don't hear me bitching about the price of Ferraris.

    So you use that justification to steal Ferraris?

    I don't know about you, but I don't pirate games. I buy them.

    Well then you might want to take back your Hi5.

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