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*Rant* Hilarious GameStop Development while searching for Guitar Hero 3 for 360

Renegade37Renegade37 Registered User regular
edited November 2007 in Games and Technology
Hey all, first post, but I've been a fan for a long long time, Just wanted to share this with everyone as I found it funny:

So, I'm running around looking for a copy of GH3 for my 360, I was dumb enough to wait a week after its release to try to attain one. D: I take about 20 minutes a day checking online stores for Best Buy, Walmart, ToysRus, CircuitCity, and....gamestop. All these places, none in stock, but I check each day so I can jump in on the next shipment.

Well, today when I happened into the Gamestop site, I noticed that they are no longer selling the Bundled (with guitar) 360 version of the game. A couple hours later, I see it back up, but now it is bundles with the music CD for an extra ten bucks. Not a bad deal.....unless...you don't like being forced to buy stuff you don't want when buying something.

I am completely amazed at their lack of business sense. I'm a normal gamer, probably spend about $2k a year on gaming stuff, and My personal policy is already set at "95% of the time buy from anywhere but gamestop" And this.... just wow....they want to elminate that 5% chance from me I guess. I know its not personal, but I can't see how other people fall for this either.

I could write forever, but sadly, with the pawnshop that Gamestop is, it will never go out of business. I'm not THAT old, but I remember a time where I could go into a game store and not feel dirty. Here's to hoping someone with more capitol and smarts than me starts up a real game store chain that is able to get a good mix of customer service and profit so it can become my new perferred place to shop.

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  • AyeJayeAyeJaye Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    That kind of chain wouldn't survive without resorting to EB/GS' pawnshop tactics, really.

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  • Atlus ParkerAtlus Parker Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    You know what really grinds my gears? When EBStop guts games then sells them as new.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    You know what really grinds my gears? When EBStop guts games then sells them as new.

    I see what you did there.

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  • Renegade37Renegade37 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah, I hear ya AyeJaye, but I have been in Gamestop wanting to ask a question, in line behind some guy selling "his" entire collection (with quotes cause it all looked stolen to me) and the Gamestop guy offered him something like 24.50 for around 20 games, and he took it.

    There is nothing wrong with buying and selling used games, but when you sell the used game for only a 10% discount, when you bought it for a 95% discount..... something's wrong.

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yeah bro and they always try to sell me some card, what the fuck is that shit

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  • NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    So are you mad at Gamestop for selling a product that another company made? I mean, most of the blame is going to be with the Guitar Hero people for bundling the CD with the game, unless Gamestop themselves are bundling it. Even then, you were talking about how you couldn't find the game anyways, so it's a good idea business wise anyways. Either way, you're still crazy.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Hilarious

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  • Renegade37Renegade37 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    No Neva, Gamestop is bundling it themselves. They are forcing you to buy the Music CD when you buy GH3 from them, for 10$ extra. No other store that sells GH3 is doing that, and there are many, the point of my post is crazy, that Gamestop is crazy enough to still make moves like this and call it business.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Gamestop and its similarly annoying compatriots are successful enough with their underhanded tactics to ignore people like you who know better.

    Guitar Hero with Guitar is clearly a high-demand enough item that they can guarantee a higher profit if they charge more for it, especially if it's they're currently the only ones who have it in stock at the moment. Of course, they can't just add another 10 bucks on top without violating distribution agreements, so they add some merchandise that most people wouldn't want anyway. Thus, they make more money and shift the music cd as well.

    I think the problem isn't their bad business sense, but yours. They're bastards and it's a totally crummy thing to do, but it's good business sense.

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  • NevaNeva Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Renegade37 wrote: »
    No Neva, Gamestop is bundling it themselves. They are forcing you to buy the Music CD when you buy GH3 from them, for 10$ extra. No other store that sells GH3 is doing that, and there are many, the point of my post is crazy, that Gamestop is crazy enough to still make moves like this and call it business.

    Well being that you can't find the game else where, it seems exactly like business.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I got my GH3, with wireless guitar, a week after release, for $40. Still new in the shrinkwrap.

    Who the fuck donates a brand new copy of Guitar Hero 3 to Goodwill?

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Renegade37 wrote: »
    No Neva, Gamestop is bundling it themselves. They are forcing you to buy the Music CD when you buy GH3 from them, for 10$ extra. No other store that sells GH3 is doing that, and there are many, the point of my post is crazy, that Gamestop is crazy enough to still make moves like this and call it business.

    Then buy it somewhere else

    Go on eBay

    Oh wait, you'll probably pay like $130 on there because EVERYONE IS A SELFISH BASTARD

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  • Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    You know what really grinds my gears? When EBStop guts games then sells them as new.

    Well done sir.

    I laughed at that.

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  • liquidloganliquidlogan Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Well... if you had pre-ordered the game you would have been able to pick it up on day one without the music cd. So, this is entirely your fault is what I'm saying, basically.
    That was a joke given the last thread for anyone without half a functioning brain.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Wait, Guitar Hero is sold out? You mean Rock Band, right?

    I'm just checking... I mean, I know locally Guitar Hero 3 with guitar is available at Gamestop, Wal-Mart, Best Buy, and FYE. In fact, Best Buy had a stack of 12 right by their entrance, with more in the section itself...

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  • DirtyDirty Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Why not just drive to a local Best Buy? They have GH3 bundles piled so high, you'd think they were using them to support the roof.

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  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I hate how everyone does bundles like that with consoles. Wanna buy a wii? That'll be 650, but it comes with like a zillion games you don't want!

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    I hate how everyone does bundles like that with consoles. Wanna buy a wii? That'll be 650, but it comes with like a zillion games you don't want!

    The retailers hate that they're not allowed to make a profit on the consoles, to be fair..

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  • Woot427Woot427 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Like its been said before, are you sure you don't mean Rock Band? I would assume you know what you are talking about but it seems strange that you can't find it. At the Best Buys around here, all three that I can think of, you can't walk 5 feet without running into another 10 foot pile of Xbox360 bundles. Rock Band, on the other hand, is impossible to find.

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  • SNESSNES Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Daedalus wrote: »
    I got my GH3, with wireless guitar, a week after release, for $40. Still new in the shrinkwrap.

    Who the fuck donates a brand new copy of Guitar Hero 3 to Goodwill?

    That's amazing.

    The last game I found at a Goodwill was a copy of Warcraft II.

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  • Forever ZefiroForever Zefiro cloaked in the midnight glory of an event horizonRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Woot427 wrote: »
    Like its been said before, are you sure you don't mean Rock Band? I would assume you know what you are talking about but it seems strange that you can't find it. At the Best Buys around here, all three that I can think of, you can't walk 5 feet without running into another 10 foot pile of Xbox360 bundles. Rock Band, on the other hand, is impossible to find.

    Where I live there's no 360 Guitar Hero 3 bundles either

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  • ben0207ben0207 Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Haha hilarious OP.
    No wait, epic fail. I always confuse the two.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    SNES wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    I got my GH3, with wireless guitar, a week after release, for $40. Still new in the shrinkwrap.

    Who the fuck donates a brand new copy of Guitar Hero 3 to Goodwill?

    That's amazing.

    The last game I found at a Goodwill was a copy of Warcraft II.

    This particular Goodwill always seems to have at least one awesome deal on a game every time I go in (which, granted, is only once every few months now that I'm in college). I got Command & Conquer 3 a week after release for $12. I think they still have like thirty fucking copies of the PC version of Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, but I think that's because of the [strike]AIDS[/strike] Starforce.

    It seems like it almost should be unethical, or something, but for the life of me I can't figure out why or how.

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  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    ben0207 wrote: »
    Haha hilarious OP.
    No wait, epic fail. I always confuse the two.

    Epic win right here. Nothing against the OP, just that this post is made of win.

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  • JCRooksJCRooks Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Renegade37 wrote: »
    I could write forever, but sadly, with the pawnshop that Gamestop is, it will never go out of business. I'm not THAT old, but I remember a time where I could go into a game store and not feel dirty. Here's to hoping someone with more capitol and smarts than me starts up a real game store chain that is able to get a good mix of customer service and profit so it can become my new perferred place to shop.

    While I agree that what GameStop did is crappy and dirty, I do think that the era of the good 'ole game store with good customer service is over. Margins are apparently so thin, and competition is so intense from so many places (Big Box stores, online, digital distribution, etc.), that it seems like the ONLY way for a standalone game store to make any decent money is to employ shady tactics.

    The only way I can see a store like that succeed is by making money on other items, with higher margins. Things like anime and video game collectibles and other "geek" stuff. The idea would be to just get the gamer into the store to pick up games, but then make your money on all the other merchandise that's hanging around. It would be hard though, since you'd have to keep up with what's popular, and hope that there's enough of a local population for the stuff to keep the business afloat.

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  • VelmeranVelmeran Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    You guys have no idea what its like buying games from "gaming stores" here in China...

    GH3? Sure, but there are no controllers in China since all the copies here are illegal anyway. Want a legit game, $100+ for the Japanese/thailand/Random langauge version that might or might not work.

    You also have to haggle for prices just to get them down to the reasonable level, can you imagine going into EB, getting a new game, then spending 15 minutes yelling at the clerk to get $10 off so it will only cost you $70 instead of the $80 they wanted, for a game that should cost $40... Don't forget there is a LINE, and you get to stand there waiting for this to go through its paces for each customer.

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  • MarvellousMMarvellousM United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    OMG guys, Gamestop.com is making you buy games and controllers with Wiis too! What a development!!

    My store is selling Guitar Hero 3 for an extra ten bucks without even giving you a fancy smancy CD. Wanna know why? Our distributor raised the price by ten bucks. Its fucking Christmas and GH3 is hard to get, for Chrissakes. This shit happens all the time.

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  • scratchdeskscratchdesk Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    After working at Gamestop and previously Funcoland for years I can completely understand there are some major flaws in the way they handle business (and employees for that matter). I was lucky to be working with a bunch of friends and only part time so I didn't mind any. But to the point, I don't understand so much why they try to throw in packins like that. It's rather... idiotic being as though most of their money is made from their used game sales business. In my opinion they should focus on a better way to do that and less on a way to make a couple extra bucks on a soundtrack.

    However if they are in fact the only online retailer with it then I would have been pretty happy just to find the game.

    And as far as the gutting of the games go I can understand that. I disliked it a lot but with a lack of other security measures and the display system they use they kind of have to. I'd prefer that to having to ask a nerd behind the counter to see 8 games at a time. Now why they don't implement some sort of security device system into the stores is beyond me. Perhaps it wouldnt fit in with the already gutted used games? I don't know.

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  • LovelyLovely Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    ....I didn't know Gamestop SOLD music CD's 0_o . Out of curiosity, What was the CD of? Er, if you remember.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    I liked this thread's early funny stuff.

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lurk More to avoid these things, lad.

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  • Captain CrunchCaptain Crunch Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Lovely wrote: »
    ....I didn't know Gamestop SOLD music CD's 0_o . Out of curiosity, What was the CD of? Er, if you remember.

    It's probally the Guitar Hero 3 soundtrack

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  • shrykeshryke Member of the Beast Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Velmeran wrote: »
    You guys have no idea what its like buying games from "gaming stores" here in China...

    GH3? Sure, but there are no controllers in China since all the copies here are illegal anyway. Want a legit game, $100+ for the Japanese/thailand/Random langauge version that might or might not work.

    You also have to haggle for prices just to get them down to the reasonable level, can you imagine going into EB, getting a new game, then spending 15 minutes yelling at the clerk to get $10 off so it will only cost you $70 instead of the $80 they wanted, for a game that should cost $40... Don't forget there is a LINE, and you get to stand there waiting for this to go through its paces for each customer.

    Wow, that's fucked up.

    um .... move?

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  • SlagmireSlagmire Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Yes, buying from GameStop and such is getting pretty bad, and it's not really an improvement anywhere else - but really, all these stories really aren't putting a lot of shock value into them anymore. I mean, if someone were to tell me that they wanted to buy a PS3 from EB, and they bundled an assrape in the back room by the overweight clerk, only for him to scream 'BLU-RAY' during release...

    ...no, not even then I would be that shocked. If it weren't for the used games, I wouldn't even bother with those places at all. Lord knows I'll probably need to do that for KoF XI and Neo-Geo Coll. when it comes out.

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  • meatflowermeatflower Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Aside from the epic failure of this thread to deliver the funny I did run across something relating to it in my economics textbook.

    In the chapter on antitrust policy and regulation it discusses the Clayton Act of 1914. Section 3 prohibited tying contracts, in which a producer requires that a buyer purchase another (or others) of its products as a condition for obtaining a desired product.

    So there you have it, GameStop breaks antitrust regulations from the early 20th century, news at 11!

    I'm thinking this is easily worked around though as we see bundles everywhere.

    edit: And I just figured out why this doesn't apply to GameStop (or anybody else). GameStop is a retailer, not a producer, so this particular line doesn't apply to them. Now if Red Octane were forcing GameStop to buy a copy of the soundtrack with every copy of Guitar Hero then maybe...just maybe, we'd have something.

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  • BakerIsBoredBakerIsBored Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    Seriously... Déjà mother fucken' vu

    Oh, and I love gutted out games... why buy anything else... :roll:

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    edited November 2007
    meatflower wrote: »
    Aside from the epic failure of this thread to deliver the funny I did run across something relating to it in my economics textbook.

    In the chapter on antitrust policy and regulation it discusses the Clayton Act of 1914. Section 3 prohibited tying contracts, in which a producer requires that a buyer purchase another (or others) of its products as a condition for obtaining a desired product.

    So there you have it, GameStop breaks antitrust regulations from the early 20th century, news at 11!

    I'm thinking this is easily worked around though as we see bundles everywhere.

    edit: And I just figured out why this doesn't apply to GameStop (or anybody else). GameStop is a retailer, not a producer, so this particular line doesn't apply to them. Now if Red Octane were forcing GameStop to buy a copy of the soundtrack with every copy of Guitar Hero then maybe...just maybe, we'd have something.

    EA used to do this a lot. You want to make sure you have plenty of copies of Madden? Guess what? You're getting 25 copies per store of the new UO expansion too. Want lots of Sim City 2000? Hey, you're going to suck up a shitload of copies of Earth & Beyond. (Yes, yes, E&B was a great game, but nobody bought it, and retailers got stuck with the stock)

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited November 2007
    The OP might have sucked, but to be fair, no matter how many "smart" or "good business move" people will throw in there, I think all these bundles and price raises are extremely assholish.

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