What the hell was so bad about Batman? You guys are being too elitist if you say it's garbage. Batman and Robin was garbage. Batman and Batman Returns were at least good movies.
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Were you the one who was complaining about not being warned enough that something was a spoiler despite it being spoilered?
Yes. I just didn't think it was going to be a huge spoiler because of how willy nilly people use that tag, and usually realspoiler is used for that kind of stuff. It's not a big deal though, it's not as if I called the guy who posted it an asshole as it was my fault. It just bugged me.
And I don't see how that has anything to do with my opinion on how the direction of the series should go.
Why is it significant that Jack has Joker printed on his golf balls instead of his name? Is there some plot point I'm forgetting? I don't want to sit through this garbage.
Um... Jack Nicholson plays the Joker in Tim Burton's Batman? It's his character.
He enjoyed playing the character so now he orders Joker printed on all his golf balls?
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Were you the one who was complaining about not being warned enough that something was a spoiler despite it being spoilered?
Yes. I just didn't think it was going to be a huge spoiler because of how willy nilly people use that tag, and usually realspoiler is used for that kind of stuff. It's not a big deal though, it's not as if I called the guy who posted it an asshole as it was my fault. It just bugged me.
And I don't see how that has anything to do with my opinion on how the direction of the series should go.
Uhhh...
[realspoiler]Rosebud was his sled[/realspoiler]
That's he didn't use realspoilers.
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Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Were you the one who was complaining about not being warned enough that something was a spoiler despite it being spoilered?
Yes. I just didn't think it was going to be a huge spoiler because of how willy nilly people use that tag, and usually realspoiler is used for that kind of stuff. It's not a big deal though, it's not as if I called the guy who posted it an asshole as it was my fault. It just bugged me.
And I don't see how that has anything to do with my opinion on how the direction of the series should go.
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Were you the one who was complaining about not being warned enough that something was a spoiler despite it being spoilered?
Yes. I just didn't think it was going to be a huge spoiler because of how willy nilly people use that tag, and usually realspoiler is used for that kind of stuff. It's not a big deal though, it's not as if I called the guy who posted it an asshole as it was my fault. It just bugged me.
And I don't see how that has anything to do with my opinion on how the direction of the series should go.
Uhhh...
[realspoiler]Rosebud was his sled[/realspoiler]
That's he didn't use realspoilers.
Oh, I didn't know realspoiler was gone. I guess I don't keep up with the forums enough. All i'm saying is it wouldn't have hurt to put one little extra warning on some stuff.
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Though I do wonder what the story will be in the third movie. I'm guessing Two-Face and POSSIBLY Penguin will be the central villians, but even moreso im wondering what the character arc for Wayne/Batman will be. In BB it's the creation of Batman and Wayne's purpose for doing it. In TDK i'm guessing he will face defeat or destruction, as the symbol getting torn apart in the teaser implies that. So that just makes me wonder not only what the title will be in Batman 3 but what the character development will be.
Well they can't really do Croc King, ClayFace, ManBat, or Mr. Freeze. Now, some good selections would be The Riddler (although you need a lot of time to develop his crime plot), Bane, or Lady Shiva.
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edited December 2007
It would be even cooler if people actually used spoilers for spoilers instead of... everything.
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Though I do wonder what the story will be in the third movie. I'm guessing Two-Face and POSSIBLY Penguin will be the central villians, but even moreso im wondering what the character arc for Wayne/Batman will be. In BB it's the creation of Batman and Wayne's purpose for doing it. In TDK i'm guessing he will face defeat or destruction, as the symbol getting torn apart in the teaser implies that. So that just makes me wonder not only what the title will be in Batman 3 but what the character development will be.
Well they can't really do Croc King, ClayFace, ManBat, or Mr. Freeze. Now, some good selections would be The Riddler (although you need a lot of time to develop his crime plot), Bane, or Lady Shiva.
With the style they already have going (very dark and moody), it would definently be interesting to see Riddler. I could only ever imagine him as the crazy cartoony guy or Jim Carrey's version, which I liked a lot, but would obviously never work in the new series. But there are probably versions of him out there that i've never seen.
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FramlingFaceHeadGeebs has bad ideas.Registered Userregular
edited December 2007
Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.
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Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Though I do wonder what the story will be in the third movie. I'm guessing Two-Face and POSSIBLY Penguin will be the central villians, but even moreso im wondering what the character arc for Wayne/Batman will be. In BB it's the creation of Batman and Wayne's purpose for doing it. In TDK i'm guessing he will face defeat or destruction, as the symbol getting torn apart in the teaser implies that. So that just makes me wonder not only what the title will be in Batman 3 but what the character development will be.
Well they can't really do Croc King, ClayFace, ManBat, or Mr. Freeze. Now, some good selections would be The Riddler (although you need a lot of time to develop his crime plot), Bane, or Lady Shiva.
With the style they already have going (very dark and moody), it would definently be interesting to see Riddler. I could only ever imagine him as the crazy cartoony guy or Jim Carrey's version, which I liked a lot, but would obviously never work in the new series. But there are probably versions of him out there that i've never seen.
What "crazy cartoony guy" because the animated series version wasnt anything like Carrey's version
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Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.
Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.
but how can you be sure?
How can I be sure it's not actually a dumb joke or reference that's not worth the risk of spoiling a major plot point anyway?
I guess I can't.
Well, unless it's in something like this thread, where I don't care about spoiling it. Then I can be sure by reading the spoiler.
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Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Though I do wonder what the story will be in the third movie. I'm guessing Two-Face and POSSIBLY Penguin will be the central villians, but even moreso im wondering what the character arc for Wayne/Batman will be. In BB it's the creation of Batman and Wayne's purpose for doing it. In TDK i'm guessing he will face defeat or destruction, as the symbol getting torn apart in the teaser implies that. So that just makes me wonder not only what the title will be in Batman 3 but what the character development will be.
Well they can't really do Croc King, ClayFace, ManBat, or Mr. Freeze. Now, some good selections would be The Riddler (although you need a lot of time to develop his crime plot), Bane, or Lady Shiva.
With the style they already have going (very dark and moody), it would definently be interesting to see Riddler. I could only ever imagine him as the crazy cartoony guy or Jim Carrey's version, which I liked a lot, but would obviously never work in the new series. But there are probably versions of him out there that i've never seen.
I'd love to see The Riddler in the third movie. But I'm like you and can only imagine the cartoon Riddler. It wouldn't be to hard to make him darker though.
Catwoman should not be introduced into the new series just like Robin shouldn't (and isn't).
Though I do wonder what the story will be in the third movie. I'm guessing Two-Face and POSSIBLY Penguin will be the central villians, but even moreso im wondering what the character arc for Wayne/Batman will be. In BB it's the creation of Batman and Wayne's purpose for doing it. In TDK i'm guessing he will face defeat or destruction, as the symbol getting torn apart in the teaser implies that. So that just makes me wonder not only what the title will be in Batman 3 but what the character development will be.
Well they can't really do Croc King, ClayFace, ManBat, or Mr. Freeze. Now, some good selections would be The Riddler (although you need a lot of time to develop his crime plot), Bane, or Lady Shiva.
With the style they already have going (very dark and moody), it would definently be interesting to see Riddler. I could only ever imagine him as the crazy cartoony guy or Jim Carrey's version, which I liked a lot, but would obviously never work in the new series. But there are probably versions of him out there that i've never seen.
What "crazy cartoony guy" because the animated series version wasnt anything like Carrey's version
Yeah, actually after watching some clips of him from the animated series he wasn't as crazy as I remember. But I still have a hard time picturing him as a compelling villian for the third movie.
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Sars_BoyRest, You Are The Lightning.Registered Userregular
edited December 2007
I think 3 will feature the Joker in at least a small role.
Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.
but how can you be sure?
How can I be sure it's not actually a dumb joke or reference that's not worth the risk of spoiling a major plot point anyway?
I guess I can't.
Well, unless it's in something like this thread, where I don't care about spoiling it. Then I can be sure by reading the spoiler.
You just admitted it's personal preference. Just beause you or anyone else feel that way about it doesn't automatically make me a fool.
What if they did robin in a much more realistic role?
Like sort of a behind the scenes in the bat cave giving information to batman when needed because say alfred can't keep up with the technology?
Could that work in this new batman world?
you wanna make Robin a cripple, don't you?
No, it's just that they only way I can see robin being introduced would be some orphan kid somehow stumbling upon the batcave, maybe getting the idea to sneak around the richest man in gothams property to steal some stuff, and then being adopted by bruce wayne to keep him quiet and through constant bugging given some sort of support position to help him, by maybe giving him directions and doing survalliance or something in the bat cave.
I mean, in the semirealistic apporach they're taking with these movies, there's no way they'd have batman just say 'Hey, you're 12, but that's no reason you can't ride shotgun and throw punches with people who even I have trouble fighting.'
But I could see them playing the 'young people are more astute at technology then old people angle'
Bane or Riddler would be pretty good in 3 but it's impossible to top Joker. I can't help but think of the Spider-Man trilogy in regards to the new Batman series, it seems like it's really hard to make a good third movie.
Mostly because he was more like the Joker than the Riddler
The cartoon version was much better
I liked Carrey's Edward D. Nigma.
I was kind of apathetic about his Riddler but I liked his nutty cable-guy-esque insanity from earlier in the movie.
It's going to be hard to do any more costumed villains after Joker though. I might like to see if they can do Bane, but that's shaky. A female villain might be cool to see for number 3. Ivy wouldn't work (since her powers are near-supernatural). Catwoman could play along if they did a theme around the gray areas between righteous and unrighteous with Bats working outside the law and Catwoman only stealing from criminals. It all comes down to what the third movie's theme could be.
1: Origins, reasons for being Batman.
2: Repercussions of Batman entering Gotham city, creation of super-villains (Batman might be making some things worse instead of better).
3: ???
Bane or Riddler would be pretty good in 3 but it's impossible to top Joker. I can't help but think of the Spider-Man trilogy in regards to the new Batman series, it seems like it's really hard to make a good third movie.
If you followed the Knightfall story with Bane, it could be really good.
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Were you the one who was complaining about not being warned enough that something was a spoiler despite it being spoilered?
No, they really weren't.
Yes. I just didn't think it was going to be a huge spoiler because of how willy nilly people use that tag, and usually realspoiler is used for that kind of stuff. It's not a big deal though, it's not as if I called the guy who posted it an asshole as it was my fault. It just bugged me.
And I don't see how that has anything to do with my opinion on how the direction of the series should go.
well, it's a good design anyhow
if they do involve Catwoman in the new movies I think they should use it
Um... Jack Nicholson plays the Joker in Tim Burton's Batman? It's his character.
He enjoyed playing the character so now he orders Joker printed on all his golf balls?
It's not very complex.
Uhhh...
[realspoiler]Rosebud was his sled[/realspoiler]
That's he didn't use realspoilers.
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Oh god you're right.
Missing a word there Fram.
Oh, I didn't know realspoiler was gone. I guess I don't keep up with the forums enough. All i'm saying is it wouldn't have hurt to put one little extra warning on some stuff.
Well they can't really do Croc King, ClayFace, ManBat, or Mr. Freeze. Now, some good selections would be The Riddler (although you need a lot of time to develop his crime plot), Bane, or Lady Shiva.
With the style they already have going (very dark and moody), it would definently be interesting to see Riddler. I could only ever imagine him as the crazy cartoony guy or Jim Carrey's version, which I liked a lot, but would obviously never work in the new series. But there are probably versions of him out there that i've never seen.
your = belonging to you
their = belonging to them
there = not here
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but how can you be sure?
What "crazy cartoony guy" because the animated series version wasnt anything like Carrey's version
How can I be sure it's not actually a dumb joke or reference that's not worth the risk of spoiling a major plot point anyway?
I guess I can't.
Well, unless it's in something like this thread, where I don't care about spoiling it. Then I can be sure by reading the spoiler.
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Like sort of a behind the scenes in the bat cave giving information to batman when needed because say alfred can't keep up with the technology?
Could that work in this new batman world?
I am not on Urian's side here
I'd love to see The Riddler in the third movie. But I'm like you and can only imagine the cartoon Riddler. It wouldn't be to hard to make him darker though.
He's a criminal mastermind who uses riddles...
Yeah, actually after watching some clips of him from the animated series he wasn't as crazy as I remember. But I still have a hard time picturing him as a compelling villian for the third movie.
And then just mainly twoface
since when do we need 2 villains anyway?
you wanna make Robin a cripple, don't you?
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You just admitted it's personal preference. Just beause you or anyone else feel that way about it doesn't automatically make me a fool.
Mostly because he was more like the Joker than the Riddler
The cartoon version was much better
They only need one villain, more than one never works. Ever.
No, it's just that they only way I can see robin being introduced would be some orphan kid somehow stumbling upon the batcave, maybe getting the idea to sneak around the richest man in gothams property to steal some stuff, and then being adopted by bruce wayne to keep him quiet and through constant bugging given some sort of support position to help him, by maybe giving him directions and doing survalliance or something in the bat cave.
I mean, in the semirealistic apporach they're taking with these movies, there's no way they'd have batman just say 'Hey, you're 12, but that's no reason you can't ride shotgun and throw punches with people who even I have trouble fighting.'
But I could see them playing the 'young people are more astute at technology then old people angle'
Yeah, you can't have the Riddler be laughing and jumping everywhere.
You got to make him suave. He should always have a glass of champagne in his hand, a bowl hat on his head, and be lightly chuckling.
I liked Carrey's Edward D. Nigma.
I was kind of apathetic about his Riddler but I liked his nutty cable-guy-esque insanity from earlier in the movie.
It's going to be hard to do any more costumed villains after Joker though. I might like to see if they can do Bane, but that's shaky. A female villain might be cool to see for number 3. Ivy wouldn't work (since her powers are near-supernatural). Catwoman could play along if they did a theme around the gray areas between righteous and unrighteous with Bats working outside the law and Catwoman only stealing from criminals. It all comes down to what the third movie's theme could be.
1: Origins, reasons for being Batman.
2: Repercussions of Batman entering Gotham city, creation of super-villains (Batman might be making some things worse instead of better).
3: ???
If you followed the Knightfall story with Bane, it could be really good.