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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    What if they did robin in a much more realistic role?

    Like sort of a behind the scenes in the bat cave giving information to batman when needed because say alfred can't keep up with the technology?

    Could that work in this new batman world?

    you wanna make Robin a cripple, don't you?

    No, it's just that they only way I can see robin being introduced would be some orphan kid somehow stumbling upon the batcave, maybe getting the idea to sneak around the richest man in gothams property to steal some stuff, and then being adopted by bruce wayne to keep him quiet and through constant bugging given some sort of support position to help him, by maybe giving him directions and doing survalliance or something in the bat cave.

    I mean, in the semirealistic apporach they're taking with these movies, there's no way they'd have batman just say 'Hey, you're 12, but that's no reason you can't ride shotgun and throw punches with people who even I have trouble fighting.'

    But I could see them playing the 'young people are more astute at technology then old people angle'

    How is that any better than either the Tim Drake or Dick Grayson origin

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I don't know either of their origins?

    I'm just looking for a plausible way that robin could be introduced, and what his role could be, because theres no way they can introduce a 12 yearold ass kicker and still maintain a sense of reality.

    But some kid given a menial job could at least be a nod to it.

    Also, barbra gordon is in this movie now, does that mean bat girl will be introduced?

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  • Calamity JaneCalamity Jane That Wrong Love Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    Anjin-San wrote: »
    Batman: Hush was great in that it's the premise for the best Batman fighting game that doesn't exist.
    wait what

    Re-read Hush and tell me that it isn't a great premise for a fighting game.

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  • UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Zonugal wrote: »
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    Bane or Riddler would be pretty good in 3 but it's impossible to top Joker. I can't help but think of the Spider-Man trilogy in regards to the new Batman series, it seems like it's really hard to make a good third movie.

    If you followed the Knightfall story with Bane, it could be really good.

    I did read it a long time ago, and yeah I remember liking it a lot.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Also, barbra gordon is in this movie now, does that mean bat girl will be introduced?

    Say what!?! Who is playing her?

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Urian wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Urian wrote: »
    Bane or Riddler would be pretty good in 3 but it's impossible to top Joker. I can't help but think of the Spider-Man trilogy in regards to the new Batman series, it seems like it's really hard to make a good third movie.

    If you followed the Knightfall story with Bane, it could be really good.

    I did read it a long time ago, and yeah I remember liking it a lot.

    Mind you, they just need to follow the first part of Knightfall, not two or three.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Melinda McGraw

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I doubt she's gonna become Batgirl.

    She was briefly mentioned in Begins and I'm pretty sure she was a little kid at the time.

    Also Batgirl showing up before Robin does seems like a terrible idea.

    Edit: What.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Also, barbra gordon is in this movie now, does that mean bat girl will be introduced?

    Say what!?! Who is playing her?

    http://imdb.com/title/tt0468569/fullcredits#cast

    Melinda McGraw

    Also Anthony Micheal Hall is going to be in this movie as "Mike Engel" whoever that is.

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  • Regicid3Regicid3 Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Regicid3 wrote: »
    Why is it significant that Jack has Joker printed on his golf balls instead of his name? Is there some plot point I'm forgetting? I don't want to sit through this garbage.

    Um... Jack Nicholson plays the Joker in Tim Burton's Batman? It's his character.

    He enjoyed playing the character so now he orders Joker printed on all his golf balls?

    It's not very complex.


    ...

    I meant, is it significant that he put it on his golf balls?

    Duh.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    That's the weird thing, which sucks kinda.

    I remember he had a little kid in his apartment when batman visited.

    Yet, the woman playing her is clearly not a little girl.

    Which means they either fucked up, or gordon has more then one kid, which is possible because I don't know shit about gordon, and she was away at college or something.

    Or she is supposed to be his wife and shares the same name with her daughter.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I am guessing it is Jim's wife.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Regicid3 wrote: »
    Regicid3 wrote: »
    Why is it significant that Jack has Joker printed on his golf balls instead of his name? Is there some plot point I'm forgetting? I don't want to sit through this garbage.

    Um... Jack Nicholson plays the Joker in Tim Burton's Batman? It's his character.

    He enjoyed playing the character so now he orders Joker printed on all his golf balls?

    It's not very complex.


    ...

    I meant, is it significant that he put it on his golf balls?

    Duh.

    Celebrities mark their golf balls in strange ways so they won't get stolen. They use symbols, a number of dots or a pseudonym to tell theirs apart without other people being able to figure out who it is.

    Jack likes to mark his balls with "Joker".

    End of story.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.

    ten years ago, Jim Carrey as the Joker and Cameron Diaz as Harley Quinn would have been great casting

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  • TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It just occurred to me I don't know the name of Barbara's mom. Was she ever given one? Did we ever even see her in the comics?

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Queertzi wrote: »
    I am guessing it is Jim's wife.

    I hope so, having a 40-something Batgirl really doesn't do anything for me.

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  • UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm almost positive the trailer will release at 8:28pm tonight. It said this Sunday, and the Joker likes night time a lot more than morning time. I doubt it'll be the prologue.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.

    ten years ago, Jim Carrey as the Joker and Cameron Diaz as Harley Quinn would have been great casting

    Carrey isn't evil enough. He never comes off as sinister to me, just goofy and/or annoying.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Except for when it worked in Batman Begins

    In my opinion, it didn't completely ruin the film, but it did weaken it.

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  • UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Well I guess we've... found our man.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=glvGfQnx3DI

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  • FramlingFramling FaceHead Geebs has bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Urian wrote: »
    Framling wrote: »
    Vorus wrote: »
    Framling wrote: »
    Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.

    but how can you be sure?

    How can I be sure it's not actually a dumb joke or reference that's not worth the risk of spoiling a major plot point anyway?

    I guess I can't.

    Well, unless it's in something like this thread, where I don't care about spoiling it. Then I can be sure by reading the spoiler.

    You just admitted it's personal preference. Just beause you or anyone else feel that way about it doesn't automatically make me a fool.

    I'm not sure what I just admitted was personal preference. My point is, assuming that a spoiler in a thread about a new movie isn't actually a spoiler is pretty stupid.

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  • NuzakNuzak Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    somebody suggested david tennant, and i can say, with complete neutrality, that i wholeheartedly [strike]am gay for david tennant[/strike] agree that mr. tennant would be a good riddler

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  • LarlarLarlar consecutive normal brunches Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    edited December 2007
    Jim Carrey would be like The Cable Guy in a Joker outfit. That's worse than getting AIDS from a moose.

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  • Filler Inc.Filler Inc. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.

    ten years ago, Jim Carrey as the Joker and Cameron Diaz as Harley Quinn would have been great casting

    Carrey isn't evil enough. He never comes off as sinister to me, just goofy and/or annoying.

    I never saw 23 but he looked pretty sinister in that.

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  • UrianUrian __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2007
    Framling wrote: »
    Urian wrote: »
    Framling wrote: »
    Vorus wrote: »
    Framling wrote: »
    Man, if I'm in a thread about a movie or a game or a book or something that hasn't come out yet, and there's a spoiler, I tend to assume it's a spoiler.

    but how can you be sure?

    How can I be sure it's not actually a dumb joke or reference that's not worth the risk of spoiling a major plot point anyway?

    I guess I can't.

    Well, unless it's in something like this thread, where I don't care about spoiling it. Then I can be sure by reading the spoiler.

    You just admitted it's personal preference. Just beause you or anyone else feel that way about it doesn't automatically make me a fool.

    I'm not sure what I just admitted was personal preference. My point is, assuming that a spoiler in a thread about a new movie isn't actually a spoiler is pretty stupid.

    Well i'm sorry I don't have the foresight you have. Regardless, just because you feel differently about it is a pretty shitty reason for being an asshole.

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  • FramlingFramling FaceHead Geebs has bad ideas.Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I've never needed a reason to be an asshole.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It just occurred to me I don't know the name of Barbara's mom. Was she ever given one? Did we ever even see her in the comics?

    Wasn't it Sarah?

    I'll ask Wiki.

    Wiki says that Jim Gordon adopted her after her parents Roger and Thelma Gordon died.

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  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Nuzak wrote: »
    somebody suggested david tennant, and i can say, with complete neutrality, that i wholeheartedly [strike]am gay for david tennant[/strike] agree that mr. tennant would be a good riddler

    you know that casting him would only make you disappointed when he didn't time travel. even though you know the movie has nothing to do with the Doc, you still want it in your heart.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    yeah david tennant would make a pretty awesome riddler

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    It just occurred to me I don't know the name of Barbara's mom. Was she ever given one? Did we ever even see her in the comics?

    Wasn't it Sarah?

    I'll ask Wiki.

    Wiki says that Jim Gordon adopted her after her parents Roger and Thelma Gordon died.

    In Batman: Year One, Jim's wife is also named Barbara.

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  • augustaugust where you come from is gone Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    Barbra Jr.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.

    ten years ago, Jim Carrey as the Joker and Cameron Diaz as Harley Quinn would have been great casting

    Except ten years ago Jim Carrey wasn't that great of an actor. Now a days, he could pull the part off probably pretty well.

    Cameron Diaz... Well, she um... just fucking no.

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  • SpazMuffinSpazMuffin Hey Cut it outRegistered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.

    ten years ago, Jim Carrey as the Joker and Cameron Diaz as Harley Quinn would have been great casting
    Just watch The Mask.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I don't know either of their origins?

    Dick Grayson became Robin because his parents were murdered by petty criminals just like Bruce. Bruce took him in and trained him because he saw himself.

    Tim Drake was a kid who figured out that Batman = Bruce Wayne.

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  • OmegaTofuNinjaOmegaTofuNinja Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm assuming they showed how he figured out the Bruce/Batman connection?

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    SpazMuffin wrote: »
    I think carrey could have done a great joker, but his riddler was just the joker in a green suit instead of a purple suit.
    ten years ago, Jim Carrey as the Joker and Cameron Diaz as Harley Quinn would have been great casting
    Just watch The Mask.

    The Mask is such a good movie.

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  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I'm assuming they showed how he figured out the Bruce/Batman connection?

    If I remember, it wasn't that difficult either...

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  • OmegaTofuNinjaOmegaTofuNinja Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    I've just never read the origins for the Drake Robin. Just wondering how they did it.

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  • beefbeef Registered User regular
    edited December 2007
    He recognized a quadruple backflip Robin did as being a Grayson signature move from the circus.

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