Ok so the former isnt exactly true, but that latter is.
My 20g iPod Colour recently decided it didn't like playing music anymore, finding locking up and enraging me was far more entertaining. After listening to the radio in my car for a week (I use the monster iCar or someshit to FM broadcast my iPod through the car stereo) I am officially ready to brutally kill every dumbshit DJ in Vancouver or buy a new MP3 player.
Since the iPod Touch is the newest and the flashiest, it has garnered my immediate attention, but I was wondering if anybody here has any experience with it... is it good? Is it worth the money? Will it help me entice technology loving females into doing something they'd regret later?
Thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated.
(PS, To our glorious and foreboding Moderators, sorry if this is in the wrong spot. I figured it qualifies as Hardware and I couldn't find an already existing thread about it. Do you know how many search results you get from searching "touch" on these forums? We're all perverts apparently.)
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He loves the utube deal and surfing the web on safari almost more than he enjoys music and video. And hey...you just can't beat widescreen mobile porn.
The only limitation of the touch is the capacity. 8 GB for $300 and 16 GB for $400 is a lot of cabbage. But hey...if you have too much money...problem solved.
All in all, I'd recommend it. I know there are better audio players out there that support more, but watching my boyfriend gush over his has almost got me wanting one.
There is just something to be said for style and the touch has that in spades.
If you are not in a wifi hotspot, is there still a way to check an offline map? I really want a nice google on the run type gadget that does not require me to always be in a wifi spot and no service contracts.
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Limiting myself to 8-16GB is just not worth it. Perhaps if I was getting a nano or something and I was paying a LOT LESS, then I wouldn't feel bad, but if I'm going to pay that much for a device to play music, I want as much possible music as possible on it.
I suggest (based on your suggested usage of car and home stereo) to get a classic in either 80GB or if you have a lot of music or want high-quality, even the 160GB.
Or, since you use your iPod in the car and at home that much, you may want to look into a Zune and a Zune pass so you can download new music all the time. Unless you buy CDs or digital music often, but I love the idea of subscription music (so long as you keep up the subscription) and getting access to ANYTHING.
No idea about additional software. I'd imagine (and someone has already mentioned) that people will be busy cracking this and creating software for it. I've already got a PDA that I don't use, so its not a big deal to me.
However, in regards to the map question:
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Yeah, I love carrying around my entire music collection. Like you said, I dont need to pick and choose in the morning, which is great. But like I said before, I only really listen to about a gig of that music, the rest just sits there feeling lonely when my friends arent around.
I wonder if the 80g is a lot cheaper, if it is I might just go with that.
Not a big fan of the Zune. If I was going to go subscription based, I'd prob just get satalite radio.
Ah, looks like it is intentionally crippled in order to sell more iphones and their way overpriced monthly service plans.
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I own an iPhone and the ipod portion of it is my least favorite part. I have a Zune that I use for my main music player, and I tolerate the iPhone only because when I am out on my scooter I dont want to carry two things and the iPhones headphones are also a headset with included controls for skipping and pausing. I really hate waiting for the screen to animate to show the controls that I want to press NOW. If you are patient and have the cash, it is a pretty snazy player. You can already hack the Touch in the same way you can hack an iPhone, and they have nearly identical specs so most of the iPhone software also works on the Touch. It is possible to hack a Touch and copy the MobileMail.app and other iPhone progs onto the Touch. Those methods are a pain in the ass, however, and it is advisable to wait until February to see what Apple does.
I believe firmware update 1.1.2 fixed the calendar thing (so you can now add calendar items right on the Touch). This makes it a perfectly viable option for a PDA replacement.
As for extra software, jailbreaking an iPhone/iPod Touch is phenomenally easy and the library of software available is awesome. I hope the official software support once the SDK comes out is halfway as robust as the community support is now.
I suspect I'm getting a 16GB Touch as my Hanuka gift this year from the girlfriend, and I'll be thrilled. I have no use for another music iPod (my 40GB 4th-gen still has me covered library-wise and my nano stays in my car) but it will do the trick for mobile video, wifi Safari browsing and copious software via jailbreak.
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Space wasn't an issue for me, the damned thing just wasn't all that user friendly. I found it hard to select songs. It always seemed either too sensitive or not sensitive enough. Using it in the car was a nightmare - it seemed like you needed to go through way too many steps to select a song and you need some accuracy to touch the right part of the screen, something that you don't have while driving.
Also, I was worried about scratching the screen so I purchased a screen protector for it (sort of like the ones you find for PSPs). It just compounded the problems listed above.
I finally decided on an Ipod classic and I love it. After my experiences it would be hard to justify the price of an ipod touch again, especially when you can get 10x the space on a classic for basically the same price.
Bottom line: Buy a classic now and wait a few years for Ipod touch improvements, and a price drop.
The Touch, IMO, is the other way around -- it's primarily for photos, video, music, and web stuff, in that order. Why? Because the Touch is only useful if you're spending time looking at the screen an interacting with it, and most music activities involve NOT looking at the device. Similarly, if you're showing off Touch features, or simply using them and navigating around the device, you'll likely end up losing your place in a playlist or song. This doesn't happen with video because iPods remember where you were for video.
So if you want a gadget to carry around your photos and videos, with the ability to also play some music and surf the web/get your youtube on, knock yourself out. But if you're looking for a music device, with a few other options thrown in, duh -- get a regular iPod.
I kind of see it like the shuffle -- the shuffle is great if you've got a regular iPod but want something to take with you for sports or something. Touch is great if you've got a regular iPod that's, say, old enough to not play video or have a color screen, but you don't want to buy a new iPod.
I did consider buying one. My main issue was the storage limitation. Sure I don't have a huge music library like some (maybe about 10gb of music) but I travel often in plane and love watching movies (currently doing on so my ipod 5.5G 30GB) and well, everytime I leave, I have to "select" the movies I want to bring with me. being limited at 16GB only would make things even worst.
So, despite the strong desire to "touch" it, I decided to wait for next year's model and see if they double the capacity. In the meantime, it's not like I'm bad company with my current 5.5G 30Gb ipod...
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Also, if you like to quickly switch songs or adjust the volume without taking your iPod out of your pocket, you can kiss that goodbye. It's impossible to use the the touch screen without seeing it.
You don't mind losing those things, go for it. I couldn't get used to it though so I ended up with a Classic.
Get the classic. 80GB for less money. Shape and system you're familiar with, and much improved over older models.
If you really have money to burn, get the iPhone. It has all those flashy features of the Touch and more besides, so really it's a better package for the touch sensitive stuff.
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Thanks for all the comments guys, I think Ill save myself some money and get a classic like many of you suggested. Sounds like trying to change tracks on a Touch while driving would be far to risky.
Definitely. I own one, and I can't imagine using the iPod functions without the headset clicker (click once for play/pause, double-click for next track) or the physical volume buttons. And that's even before you get into all the phone and EDGE functionality.
Either that or an 80GB iPod Classic if you just want to go for massive storage.
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The Zune and the subscription are ENTIRELY seperate.
Seriously, judge it on the hardware, not an optional service. The Zune has the best interface out there, IMO, and a better screen than the iPod Classic.
I travel (via plane) a little for work, but otherwise mainly use it as an music/podcast player.
I find it's as nice straight music player as my last one (iPod nano), but does so much more that I really feel like I'm getting my money out of it.
I've "jailbroken" it and have a ton of extra software on it, such as a VNC, telnet/ssh client, and games.
I've also added Mail, Google Maps, notes, and all the other iPhone apps to it, which eliminates most of the complaints most people have about it vs. the iPhone.
I'm now syncing with my exchange calendar at work, and I can confirm that as a PDA it's quite good. The calendar is quite good.
As far as video, it's the best portable movie player I've used (previously I used the PSP for movies when on planes).
I have my entire photo library on it, which is handy for showing people pictures from vacation, cats, etc.
Finally, Safari is a rock solid web browser. Every site I've thrown at it is completely usable.
Essentially, if you're like me, and are okay with picking and choosing your music (how much of it do you want at once anyways?), then the interface is awesome, the extras (vs. standard iPod) are fantastic, and in my opinion it's worth every penny.
I wouldn't be willing to trade it in for any other media player I've ever seen or used.
The one exception would of course be an iPhone, but after considering it (before my purchase) I decided I'd rather have a great MP3 player and a small phone than one big, somewhat breakable phone that does it all.
Easier to leave the MP3 player at home when all I'll need is a phone.
Edit: wow, massive typing failure there. Time for bed.
Deezer doesn't look like it would be compatible, as the browser does not support flash, and it looks like that site needs it.
That said, there's already a 3rd party net radio app that works perfectly.
I find I've got enough on there that I don't really use it much though.
I sold it and got a Cowon D2 instead.
I find the audio quality on par with my old Nano.
Good headphones make a big difference, but if you're concerned about audio quality I'm assuming you already have some!
YMMV, but I'm pleased with the audio quality.
Edit: I've also read that the new firmware (1.1.2) improves audio quality slightly, but I can't hear a difference.
I have an iphone, but I still use my 30 gig ipod for music much of the time.
I also didn't like how I couldn't control the the player while it was in my pocket.
I always do that. No Touch for me, then <.<
That's one of my few complaints.
I've now got a dock connector based remote that I leave clipped inside my jacket. (97 cents + 4.99 shipping on eBay)
I put the touch in my inner jacket pocket and have the remote clipped on below my collar when I walk somewhere. It's unobtrusive, and works. Controls play, pause, next, back, vol up/down.
That said, it's by no means a perfect solution.
For me, the lack of no look controls wasn't really a dealbreaker, because I use it most at my desk, waiting rooms, or while on airport transit, planes, etc.
If you jailbreak it you have last.fm and a radio streamer, if not you can get something like orb.com to work, and it looks really nice, or if your looking for more of music streaming radio, I'm pretty sure there's some form of that online for the ipod touch
Can you play xvid/divx on a jailbroken iTouch without the need for transcoding?