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Once a long long time ago there existed games that were far superior forms of entertainment.
They used:
Light Guns!
Some of the more awesome ones included:
I've got a craving for some light gun games, and the only one I ever owned was duck hunt for the NES, but since over the years my NES has disappeared, I tried to borrow Virtua Cop and my cousin's Sega Saturn. Unfortunately he's lost it too. So woe is me, I must find one for either Xbox, PC, or Gamecube, or some other system I can find cheaply. Any ideas?
So discuss these fine games of the past, and why they are so rare nowadays, also recommend me some.
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edited December 2007
The last good lightgun game I've played, if it can be called that, was Elemental Gearbolt for the PS1.
Time Crisis has fallen so far. I only keep playing them to keep killing Wild Dog.
The system of the first is still my favorite, where time is more important than life. It's almost impossible to get shot in the first one. Making it on time, not so much.
TC4, you'll die like six times by the end of level 2. I don't think it's possible to avoid getting shot in either TC3 or 4.
Time Crisis series on PS2 + GunCon2. There are a few other odd games on the PS2, but I don't know if they are any good.
The only other real contender is Vampire Night, which is a House of the Dead wannabe.
Half the fun is the absolutely horrendous voice acting. Imagine sitting your cousins (yes, the dumb ones) down in front of a microphone and having them all recite lines off of cue cards in a monotone. Then screaming, "No. No! NO! I need LESS EMOTION!" at them.
So I just bought House of the Dead 3 + 2 wireless intec light guns.
It's pretty sweet (only gotten to the end of the 2nd level before i died) but also pretty damn hard.
I know everyone says light guns dont work with HDTV's, but I'm thinking i'll give it a try tommorow anyway, just to see for myself since I'm kinda missing the glory of decent resolution. Also, best thing ever: setting it to 2 player and using both guns yourself.
There's a bunch of light gunners on the PS2, yes? That system is pretty cheap.
I don't know about the Xbox. I know that House of the Dead 2 and 3, iirc, were released as as single pack for it.
Also, Silent Scope came out for the Xbox.
If you have a Wii, there's Resident Evil UC, Ghost Squad, and soon House of Dead 2+3, and something else that I don't remember.
When I said cheap I meant like, REALLY cheap, as in cheap enough to pick up for $10 at a garage sale. But anyway, I've got myself a light gun game that'll keep me busy for a while now (House of Dead 3 + 2) so I don't need any more recommendations.
I now declare this thread to be for the purposes of discussing light gun games, light gun technology, and all things shooty.
So discuss these fine games of the past, and why they are so rare nowadays, also recommend me some.
School shootings are why they are so rare nowadays. With <ahem> certain people throwing terms like "killographic murder simulators" at even fairly innocuous games, developers are really leery of light gun games.
Case in point: Resident Evil Survivor. Designed as a light gun game, released as a light gun game in Japan, they stripped all light gun compatibility (and therefore, the entire point) out of the U.S. release.
well there are definitely some PS2 light gun shooters that are $10. I know because I've seen them in bargain bins. I just don't recall which ones they were. Except Ninja Assault, but I d'no if that game is worth anything or not.
Other than the bunch of PS2 shooters, I know of the HOTD games for the Xbox, but I doubt the Silent Scope games are bargain bin priced, since it includes a proprietary controller.
Once I get Ghost Squad as an xmas gift (which I will), I'm going to write up a really detailed OP for a thread about the Wii and the wii remote and lightguns and this type of technology. There's been an interesting new development about it, but I want to put it all into context for everyone to think about and discuss. So I'm saving it for a thread of its own.
So discuss these fine games of the past, and why they are so rare nowadays, also recommend me some.
School shootings are why they are so rare nowadays. With <ahem> certain people throwing terms like "killographic murder simulators" at even fairly innocuous games, developers are really leery of light gun games.
Case in point: Resident Evil Survivor. Designed as a light gun game, released as a light gun game in Japan, they stripped all light gun compatibility (and therefore, the entire point) out of the U.S. release.
Really? I mean, it makes sense, but I always just kind of assumed it was the move to HDTV and that no company really wanted to invest in working out how to make a light gun work with an HDTV.
Remember arcade shooters? Mad Dog McCree? That was the coolest. You know, come to think of it, that was probably the most violent because you were actually shooting a real person. Not a drawing of one, but a live actor. Where were the overprotective senators then? /rant
Did those arcade shooters work like the Wiimote or like the zapper gun? What about all of Sega's shooters?
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edited December 2007
I love the sound the Nintendo Zapper made when you pulled the trigger.
"Pa-ching, pa-ching, pa-ching"
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Why is there no mention of this awesome piece of plastic?
i remeber playing duck hunt with that at a friends house when i was younger and thinking to myself "A bazooka is about the most necesary weapon for shooting ducks"
Why is there no mention of this awesome piece of plastic?
i remeber playing duck hunt with that at a friends house when i was younger and thinking to myself "A bazooka is about the most necesary weapon for shooting ducks"
Ahhh, boxart! How could you turn down a game with a badass metal Mech staring you in the face?
Look! He's so awesome, he's stepping out of the confines of the black boxart border! Oh, and look at the red fist! What's he going to do with that? Why is it red? Why use a fist when that thing is equiped with lasers and cannons? You can only find out by playing this incredible game!
Title Screen!
Look at those lens flares! Wow! This game has to be cutting edge!
Look at that blue mech! Everyone knows that mechs colored blue are clearly the good guys!
Plus, he's holding a Super Scope! Super Scopes are obviously the weapon of choice for any building-tall bipedal warmachine.
The plot, the story..
So engaging, so dramatic! What's going to happen?
Man just look at that guy; he has a headband. Headbands are the 8/16-bit indication that you are a badass.
Remember arcade shooters? Mad Dog McCree? That was the coolest. You know, come to think of it, that was probably the most violent because you were actually shooting a real person. Not a drawing of one, but a live actor. Where were the overprotective senators then? /rant
Er, I don't know if I'm missing a joke here or something, but senators like Joe Lieberman went after arcade lightgun games like crazy - Lethal Enforcers being the poster child. Before people really became familiar with FPS games like Wolfenstein and Doom, arcade light gun games were a familiar and convenient target.
Remember arcade shooters? Mad Dog McCree? That was the coolest. You know, come to think of it, that was probably the most violent because you were actually shooting a real person. Not a drawing of one, but a live actor. Where were the overprotective senators then? /rant
Er, I don't know if I'm missing a joke here or something, but senators like Joe Lieberman went after arcade lightgun games like crazy - Lethal Enforcers being the poster child. Before people really became familiar with FPS games like Wolfenstein and Doom, arcade light gun games were a familiar and convenient target.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about Lethal Enforcers and all the attention. Mad Dog McCree was about 2 years before that though. Perhaps it got no attention because no one played it?
The guns support PS2, Xbox and Mame. All work a treat (although no talking of mame here!) and have a pretty strong (but not daft) kick-back.
Works an absolute charm on both my HDTV AND my projector. Virtua Cop 2 and House of the Dead 3 on a giant projector = awesome fun. The PS2 has a shed load of light gun games, Virtua Cop 1&2 on one disc, Time Crisis 2 and 3, Starsky and Hutch (one person drives the car, the other person shoots, great fun!), Dino-something, Vampire Nights, Ninja Assault, the newer Time Crisis game with the machine guns.
The original xbox is a bit further behind but has House of the Dead 3 (with HOTD2 as an unlockable...which I actually play more than the 3rd game) and Silent Scope. I had the actual scope for the game (Which converted in to a pump action shotgun for Hotd3) which was awesome WHEN you could get it to work, the damn thing had to be calibrated JUST right, but it had an awesome feature. It had a light sensor above the actual scope, so when you put your eye over it to look through, it sensed what you were doing and zoomed in on the screen. When you moved your eye away from the scope it zoomed back out again. This was it:
Showing both scope and shotgun modes.
But if you're after some lightgun games on a hdtv then pick up that gun linked earlier, you do have to sit a bit away from the screen and it can be a sod calibrating it at times but it works flawlessly once set up. Also if you mod your xbox you can play certain unmentionable old games with the lightgun.
The Wii is going to be the platform of choice for lightgun games as it is pretty much having a mini revival right now. Crossbow Training, UC, and Ghost Squad in one month? Yes please.
HotD next year, hopefully some fixed up VC games from the NES/SNES era, like Duck Hunt and Metal Combat.
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Remember arcade shooters? Mad Dog McCree? That was the coolest. You know, come to think of it, that was probably the most violent because you were actually shooting a real person. Not a drawing of one, but a live actor.
I loved those to death. Especially the comedy gold of Mad Dog 2 and the Crime Patrol games.
Too bad they haven't gotten a decent light gun compatible release.
They have the DVD ones, but those are basically worthless as light gun games.
Not as good as the first two. It suffers from TC3 syndrome(you'll die, die, and die some more).
I like the multiple paths and hostage rescuing of 1 & 2 more.
I got bored and completed the arcade version of House of the Dead 3 with a mate a few weeks back, only took a couple of pounds. There are only two places where you are, absolutely, without question, going to die -
The final boss and that fucking sloth. It's physically impossible to shoot him enough times to stop him hitting you.
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So discuss these fine games of the past, and why they are so rare nowadays, also recommend me some.
School shootings are why they are so rare nowadays. With <ahem> certain people throwing terms like "killographic murder simulators" at even fairly innocuous games, developers are really leery of light gun games.
Case in point: Resident Evil Survivor. Designed as a light gun game, released as a light gun game in Japan, they stripped all light gun compatibility (and therefore, the entire point) out of the U.S. release.
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That's like a babies toy...
I'm looking for something way cheaper. This is prolly just gonna last a couple weeks before I get bored of them again.
Unless you don't have a CRT.
I don't think there ever was a lightgun game for the Xbox or GameCube.
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Time Crisis has fallen so far. I only keep playing them to keep killing Wild Dog.
The system of the first is still my favorite, where time is more important than life. It's almost impossible to get shot in the first one. Making it on time, not so much.
TC4, you'll die like six times by the end of level 2. I don't think it's possible to avoid getting shot in either TC3 or 4.
I like the multiple paths and hostage rescuing of 1 & 2 more.
House of the Dead + 2 guns at the same time = so awesome.
Getting a hold of a DC isn't that hard.
The only other real contender is Vampire Night, which is a House of the Dead wannabe.
Half the fun is the absolutely horrendous voice acting. Imagine sitting your cousins (yes, the dumb ones) down in front of a microphone and having them all recite lines off of cue cards in a monotone. Then screaming, "No. No! NO! I need LESS EMOTION!" at them.
And somehow, they totally nail it.
That's Vampire Night.
...what the hell? Is that a shop? Or is that something I might want to purchase?
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On rails light gun shooter in a fantasy setting with some RPG elements. By far the coolest light gun game I have played.
Hmmm, I actually just noticed that thats not the actual zapper. Looks like that might be a wiimote in it?
Maybe a Wii Zapper style thing?
Either a photoshop or a 3rd party accessory, but probably a 'shop.
and this
it still kicks ass
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I thought the Die Hard trilogy was a psuedo 3d brawler? Am I thinking of something else?
It's pretty sweet (only gotten to the end of the 2nd level before i died) but also pretty damn hard.
I know everyone says light guns dont work with HDTV's, but I'm thinking i'll give it a try tommorow anyway, just to see for myself since I'm kinda missing the glory of decent resolution. Also, best thing ever: setting it to 2 player and using both guns yourself.
I don't know about the Xbox. I know that House of the Dead 2 and 3, iirc, were released as as single pack for it.
Also, Silent Scope came out for the Xbox.
If you have a Wii, there's Resident Evil UC, Ghost Squad, and soon House of Dead 2+3, and something else that I don't remember.
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When I said cheap I meant like, REALLY cheap, as in cheap enough to pick up for $10 at a garage sale. But anyway, I've got myself a light gun game that'll keep me busy for a while now (House of Dead 3 + 2) so I don't need any more recommendations.
I now declare this thread to be for the purposes of discussing light gun games, light gun technology, and all things shooty.
School shootings are why they are so rare nowadays. With <ahem> certain people throwing terms like "killographic murder simulators" at even fairly innocuous games, developers are really leery of light gun games.
Case in point: Resident Evil Survivor. Designed as a light gun game, released as a light gun game in Japan, they stripped all light gun compatibility (and therefore, the entire point) out of the U.S. release.
Other than the bunch of PS2 shooters, I know of the HOTD games for the Xbox, but I doubt the Silent Scope games are bargain bin priced, since it includes a proprietary controller.
Once I get Ghost Squad as an xmas gift (which I will), I'm going to write up a really detailed OP for a thread about the Wii and the wii remote and lightguns and this type of technology. There's been an interesting new development about it, but I want to put it all into context for everyone to think about and discuss. So I'm saving it for a thread of its own.
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Really? I mean, it makes sense, but I always just kind of assumed it was the move to HDTV and that no company really wanted to invest in working out how to make a light gun work with an HDTV.
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thats Die Hard Arcade
I still have this. Though as a kid, I always prefered this:
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Did those arcade shooters work like the Wiimote or like the zapper gun? What about all of Sega's shooters?
"Pa-ching, pa-ching, pa-ching"
i remeber playing duck hunt with that at a friends house when i was younger and thinking to myself "A bazooka is about the most necesary weapon for shooting ducks"
You could play Duck Hunt on the SNES?
Metal Combat.
Ahhh, boxart! How could you turn down a game with a badass metal Mech staring you in the face?
Look! He's so awesome, he's stepping out of the confines of the black boxart border! Oh, and look at the red fist! What's he going to do with that? Why is it red? Why use a fist when that thing is equiped with lasers and cannons? You can only find out by playing this incredible game!
Title Screen!
Look at those lens flares! Wow! This game has to be cutting edge!
Look at that blue mech! Everyone knows that mechs colored blue are clearly the good guys!
Plus, he's holding a Super Scope! Super Scopes are obviously the weapon of choice for any building-tall bipedal warmachine.
The plot, the story..
So engaging, so dramatic! What's going to happen?
Man just look at that guy; he has a headband. Headbands are the 8/16-bit indication that you are a badass.
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Er, I don't know if I'm missing a joke here or something, but senators like Joe Lieberman went after arcade lightgun games like crazy - Lethal Enforcers being the poster child. Before people really became familiar with FPS games like Wolfenstein and Doom, arcade light gun games were a familiar and convenient target.
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The guns support PS2, Xbox and Mame. All work a treat (although no talking of mame here!) and have a pretty strong (but not daft) kick-back.
Works an absolute charm on both my HDTV AND my projector. Virtua Cop 2 and House of the Dead 3 on a giant projector = awesome fun. The PS2 has a shed load of light gun games, Virtua Cop 1&2 on one disc, Time Crisis 2 and 3, Starsky and Hutch (one person drives the car, the other person shoots, great fun!), Dino-something, Vampire Nights, Ninja Assault, the newer Time Crisis game with the machine guns.
The original xbox is a bit further behind but has House of the Dead 3 (with HOTD2 as an unlockable...which I actually play more than the 3rd game) and Silent Scope. I had the actual scope for the game (Which converted in to a pump action shotgun for Hotd3) which was awesome WHEN you could get it to work, the damn thing had to be calibrated JUST right, but it had an awesome feature. It had a light sensor above the actual scope, so when you put your eye over it to look through, it sensed what you were doing and zoomed in on the screen. When you moved your eye away from the scope it zoomed back out again. This was it:
Showing both scope and shotgun modes.
But if you're after some lightgun games on a hdtv then pick up that gun linked earlier, you do have to sit a bit away from the screen and it can be a sod calibrating it at times but it works flawlessly once set up. Also if you mod your xbox you can play certain unmentionable old games with the lightgun.
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HotD next year, hopefully some fixed up VC games from the NES/SNES era, like Duck Hunt and Metal Combat.
I loved those to death. Especially the comedy gold of Mad Dog 2 and the Crime Patrol games.
Too bad they haven't gotten a decent light gun compatible release.
They have the DVD ones, but those are basically worthless as light gun games.
I got bored and completed the arcade version of House of the Dead 3 with a mate a few weeks back, only took a couple of pounds. There are only two places where you are, absolutely, without question, going to die -
so that's why Survivor sucked so badly. . .