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What to play...what to play...

SuperJaySS4SuperJaySS4 Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Games and Technology
It wasn't until a few weeks ago, (after reading Tyco's post), that I thought to myself...why do I game? After careful consideration, I came to the realization it was for sure hell not the challenge. I hate the challenge. I hate TRYING to kill the same guy 40 times only to see myself fail again and again, with the failure on a grander scale with each attempt. I mean...for God of War, I started on Hard (knowing full well I would die quite quickly), and got bumped down all the way to easy by the end of the game. So what the hell was it that kept me in there? I think its the story telling. For me, playing a video game is as close as I will come to doing something that is equivalent of living out a novel. I play for the sake of seeing what will happen next. I guess thats why "Resistance: Fall of Man" was ranked do high on many of the critic sites I visited...yet...when I played it...meh. I think I am a fan of the action RPG genre...but if there is a good story in the first person shooter, I will definitely give that a go as well.

Because I am cheap, and don't want to just purchase ANY game, only to try it, find out I hate it, and spend 2 months playing it just so I don't feel like I wasted my money, my question is this: For someone who holds a good storyline as the prime factor in utility derivation, and prefers (prefers, not a must) the Action RPG genre, what title would you...the knowledgeable board of Penny Arcade Forums, recommend?

PS: I have a PS3.

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  • ChildrenChildren Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    mass effect and bioshock

    PS: Get a 360

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  • slash000slash000 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I play games because it is a fun past time and hobby. I don't necessarily need a good story - some of my favorite fighting games I've largely ignored the story.

    I play for many, many, many reasons. But it all goes back to the fact that I do it because it's an enjoyable hobby and past-time.

    I enjoy some relaxing games like Mario Galaxy or Guitar Hero (yes that's relaxing to me), because I enjoy winding down sometimes. But I also enjoy challenging games like Contra 4, Megaman ZX/A, Trauma Center, Devil May Cry, because overcoming the challenge is highly rewarding. I like games with relatively simple concepts but do what they do well - like Geometry Wars Galaxies, puzzle games, stuff like that - because the aspects of these are so very well done and fun; and also because they often encourage you to keep getting better and score higher and develop better strategies skills. Similarly, I enjoy fighting games because they are complex battles of strategy, thinking on your feet, reflex, timing, and spatial orientation; constantly getting better and learning to play against other people and developing new strategies is all rewarding. But I also like games that are complex, like Metal Gear Solid 3. Having a lot of options and choosing the best course of action and watching as your plan unfolds is rewarding in itself. I like rhythm games because they allow me to become physically involved with music in ways that I can't by merely listening to it and without requiring the investment of an instrument. I enjoy multiplayer stuff because it's social and I can play with friends.

    But ultimately the feeling of "reward" is just something you get when you enjoy a hobby or past time. I get the rewarding feeling - although for different reasons, and to different degrees - from my other hobbies of reading, movies, sports, hanging out, etc.


    That is why I play games.

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  • InterpreterInterpreter Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Because I am cheap, and don't want to just purchase ANY game, only to try it, find out I hate it, and spend 2 months playing it just so I don't feel like I wasted my money, my question is this: For someone who holds a good storyline as the prime factor in utility derivation, and prefers (prefers, not a must) the Action RPG genre, what title would you...the knowledgeable board of Penny Arcade Forums, recommend?

    PS: I have a PS3.

    Folklore. There's a demo on the PSN store. Give it a whirl. Good story, good use of the sixaxis, fun(it does get a little repetative, but most games do). And it has Keats. Try the demo, and see if you like it.

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I play games for a wide variety of reasons, and different games appeal to different things that I like. Sometimes I like a game where I can compete on anything from a silly fun to a semi-serious level, which is why I like Smash Bros., TF2 and Halo. More complex competitive games, like, say, Virtua Fighter, take things a few steps too far for me and fail to grab my attention.

    Sometimes I like a game because of it's it's tough as nails. As long as it's done right, I like to have my games as challenging as possible. My definition of "done right" is any challenge that you can perpetually fling yourself at until it finally goes down with as little downtime as possible. Super Mario Bros. Lost Levels and the original Ninja Gaiden are great examples. Bam, you died, now instantly come back to life and start again. If I have to constantly work my way through menus or reload my game after every death, or if I constantly have to go through a tediously easy part until I get to the hard portion, it's not worth it. If I remember right, Viewtiful Joe had this issue.

    Sometimes I like a game for its story. Games have an amazing advantage over other media in that, rather than just showing the art to the audience, they can integrate the player and his or her own thoughts and feelings into the work, theoretically producing a much stronger work. The best examples I can come up with offhand are Bioshock and the Metal Gear series, games that embrace the fact that they are games and make gaming conventions and player expectations integral pieces of the narrative. Portal does a good job of this as well, and though I haven't played it nearly as much as I admittedly should, Half-Life 2 seems to do this well also. On the other side, I generally dislike lengthy RPGs, partially for the generally poor quality of writing, and also for the fact that the story isn't woven into the gameplay, and instead it's more like a movie broken up by segments of largely irrelevant gameplay (which admittedly sounds like an odd criticism considering I just praised the MGS series, but I think there's a pretty important distinction between the two).

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  • RoyceSraphimRoyceSraphim Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Sometimes I play for the hell it puts me through, like taking out Carrot right after Mt. Bur Omicece in FFXII or going through DMC 3 with no restarts or MGS3 with minimal saves. Sometimes, I like to put myself through hell.

    Other times its the characters, JC Denton, Solid Snake, Olga Gurlukovich, Fortune, Master Chief, Karen S'Jet, all good characters with interesting stories and/or complexities that give their character definition. Part of a really good game lets you define the extent of these characters and how far does the rabbit hole go with them.

    The there are those games like Fallout, Homeworld, HL, Killzone, Deus Ex, and the MGS series that have stories that draw you into it and make you want to see the end no matter how it turns out. I mean, Deus Ex: Invisible War was horrible compared to the original but a lot of people (myself included) still bought it to see how those characters turned out, to see how the story concluded (IW would not have been so bad if we just had the huge environments we were used to with the original).

    Then there are games like Dystopia, TF2, or Total Annihilation where the gameplay is so polished and refined that you can't help but have fun.

    Okay, time to play some TF2 before I head back to watch tv.

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  • robcat09robcat09 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Children wrote: »
    mass effect and bioshock

    PS: Get a 360
    This response is a waste. I want my bandwidth back. PS: STFU

    For someone who holds a good storyline as the prime factor in utility derivation, and prefers (prefers, not a must) the Action RPG genre, what title would you...the knowledgeable board of Penny Arcade Forums, recommend?

    PS: I have a PS3.

    This quote begs Folklore to be recommended, as it fits all criteria: Excellent story, it's an action RPG and is on the PS3! So, what else is there to say? GO GET IT!

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  • Cpt_InnocuousCpt_Innocuous Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Myth 1 & 2. (Not Myst) (And not 3)

    This is the answer to all gaming questions as to what you should play.

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  • MasoniteMasonite Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Cave Story and La-Mulana. Both are free.

    edit: I'll just add that La-Mulana is challenging in a positive way, you're required to think.

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  • SuperJaySS4SuperJaySS4 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I was actually thinking about Folklore for a really long time, since I found it very entertaining on the demo I downloaded from the Playstation Store.

    But does anyone have any comments on Assassins Creed? I think that might be the next game for me after I finish playing God of War 2 (I know, I am very behind on the times...and I am playing PS2 titles on the PS3 due to lack of enjoyable games). I heard some mixed reviews...with I read good things about it on sites...but people I actually talk to just give it a blah...

    I would probably just get it regardless cause I am in love with Jade Raymond...but any opinions on the game?

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Thanks for the suggestions guys. I was actually thinking about Folklore for a really long time, since I found it very entertaining on the demo I downloaded from the Playstation Store.

    But does anyone have any comments on Assassins Creed? I think that might be the next game for me after I finish playing God of War 2 (I know, I am very behind on the times...and I am playing PS2 titles on the PS3 due to lack of enjoyable games). I heard some mixed reviews...with I read good things about it on sites...but people I actually talk to just give it a blah...

    I would probably just get it regardless cause I am in love with Jade Raymond...but any opinions on the game?

    It's fun, but very repetitive. While I had fun with it, I wouldn't really recommend it over other PS3 titles.

    If you're liking GoW, give Heavenly Sword a shot. It's my favorite PS3 game, and I think the critics were way too harsh on it.

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Masonite wrote: »
    Cave Story and La-Mulana. Both are free.

    edit: I'll just add that La-Mulana is challenging in a positive way, you're required to think.

    La-Mulana is the most challenging game I have ever played. It's insanely difficult, and walks all over the hardest NES game you can think of (Ninja Gaiden? Hah!). You might have beat Halo 3 on Legendary while blindfolded, or finished Dante Must Die difficulty on Devil May Cry, but I'll give you major props for beating La-Mulana without a guide.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Because I am cheap, I have a PS3.

    ...wait what?

    Bonus Edit: Invest in GameFly and/or GameTap and go crazy. It's curbed my reckless buying habits.

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  • TheSonicRetardTheSonicRetard Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Can we keep the PS3 trolling to a minimum in this thread?

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  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Folklore just didn't grab me at all.

    I suggest Uncharted as the best of the PS3 games. Great story, great play mechanics etc.

    Conan is big dumb fun with a decent story as well.

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  • XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Children wrote: »
    mass effect and bioshock

    PS: Get a 360

    Limed because it is the truth!

    Although Bioshock may make you wet your pants in fear a couple of times.

    Didn't see the PS3 part. Sorry.

    How did I forget The Oragne Box? If you like stories it doesn't get much better then HL2 and Portal. P.S. It's also on the PS3.

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  • BloodMuffinBloodMuffin Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm looking for a good dungeon crawler for the 360, does anyone have any suggestions? Someone suggested Oblivion but I never really got into it or liked it at all. I'm looking for something kind of like Champions of Norrath. Any suggestions?

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  • SuperJaySS4SuperJaySS4 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    ...wait what?

    Bonus Edit: Invest in GameFly and/or GameTap and go crazy. It's curbed my reckless buying habits.
    What exactly is that?

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  • citizen059citizen059 hello my name is citizen I'm from the InternetRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    EvilBadman wrote: »
    ...wait what?

    Bonus Edit: Invest in GameFly and/or GameTap and go crazy. It's curbed my reckless buying habits.
    What exactly is that?

    Gamefly = renting games over the 'net, like Netflix & movies.

    Gametap = monthly fee to play about 1000 different titles, from 1970's arcade games to modern releases.


    With gamefly you're actually renting physical copies, with Gametap you download and play on your PC through the Gametap software.

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  • SueveSueve Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Masonite wrote: »
    Cave Story and La-Mulana. Both are free.

    edit: I'll just add that La-Mulana is challenging in a positive way, you're required to think.

    La-Mulana is the most challenging game I have ever played. It's insanely difficult, and walks all over the hardest NES game you can think of (Ninja Gaiden? Hah!). You might have beat Halo 3 on Legendary while blindfolded, or finished Dante Must Die difficulty on Devil May Cry, but I'll give you major props for beating La-Mulana without a guide.

    Agreed. I played La-Mulana for two hours, trying to figure out what moves I was missing that would make it easier.
    I wasn't missing any.

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  • MasoniteMasonite Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Sueve wrote: »
    Masonite wrote: »
    Cave Story and La-Mulana. Both are free.

    edit: I'll just add that La-Mulana is challenging in a positive way, you're required to think.

    La-Mulana is the most challenging game I have ever played. It's insanely difficult, and walks all over the hardest NES game you can think of (Ninja Gaiden? Hah!). You might have beat Halo 3 on Legendary while blindfolded, or finished Dante Must Die difficulty on Devil May Cry, but I'll give you major props for beating La-Mulana without a guide.

    Agreed. I played La-Mulana for two hours, trying to figure out what moves I was missing that would make it easier.
    I wasn't missing any.

    Admittedly, I haven't beaten the game, but I don't see how La-Mulana = DMC or Ninja Gaiden. Once you familiarize yourself with the mechanics of the game (of which, I'd consider La-Mulana to have a pretty steep learning curve -- I probably didn't make any significant progress until the second or third day), the only thing holding you back are the puzzles. I never found myself fighting the same enemy over and over again, like the OP mentioned.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    How 'bout some Rachet? Could do worse.

    Or since you're cheap and don't like a challenge, how about some PS2 classics to tide you over?

    Viewtiful Joe, Contra:Shattered Soldier, and God Hand are action packed games with little to no frustration. Cheap too.

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  • SuperJaySS4SuperJaySS4 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Yeah, I 've been doing some investment lately in PS2 titles, but feel a little ripped off playing it with a PS3. Nonetheless, I expect myself to pick up Assassin's Creed in the near future. After that, probably follow EvilBadMan's advice and try out gametap.

    I do like Rachet though. Tried the demo out the other day and enjoyed it a lot. Got to play with all the cool weapons, a trademark of insomniac, without having to play a first person shooter...win win for me.

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