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HD-DVD officially dies, High Def Disc war over
TheSonicRetard
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Yeah, yeah... it was rumored, well here's the confirmation:
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That said... I'm gonna snatch up one of those HD-DVD 360 drives going for $30 on ebay.
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AP - Toshiba has conceded defeat in the battle over formats for next-generation video.
On Tuesday it announced it would no longer develop, make or market HD DVD players and recorders, handing a victory to rival Blu-ray disc technology.
"We concluded that a swift decision would be best," Toshiba President Atsutoshi Nishida told reporters at his company's Tokyo office.
The move would make Blu-ray - backed by Sony Corp, Matsushita Electric Industrial Co, which makes Panasonic brand products, and five major Hollywood movie studios - the winner in the battle over high-definition DVD formatting that began several years ago.
That said... I'm gonna snatch up one of those HD-DVD 360 drives going for $30 on ebay.
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"And now the much greater war on Apathy can begin"
more like gradual market penetration. You've got to be kidding yourself if you think blu-ray players won't slowly proliferate the market. Eventually it'll get to the point where you can't find straight up DVD players in stores like walmart anymore.
Too much money has been dropped, too many behind the scenes handshakes have been given, and too many players have invested too much for it not to happen. The switch will be invisible.
Can I make a Huckabee joke here?
It'll happen when Blue-Ray becomes as cheap as DVDs are now.
Till then, DVD kicks it's ass in every category that matters, and so will continue to dominate Blue-Ray.
And don't kid yourself, Blue-Ray and DVD are most definitely in direct competition.
my thoughts exactly now i want to hear from dreamworks/paramount/universal so i know when i can get some of the greatest movies of the year on Blu-ray. a DVD looks like shit on my 47in 1080p TV something i was not expecting when i made the purchase last week, but makes sense.
anyway, next is bluray 2.0 that has been talked about, what is this, and why is it that it means the newest movies wont be compatible with the first players, are the newest players on the market compatible? i know the PS3 is immune to it, so im not too worried, but it seems like an asshole way to go about this, although i fully admit that watching a movie in HD-DVD was FAR better than Blu-Ray when you took into account the extra menu's/applications, will blu-ray get to the level that HD-DVD left off with this blu-ray 2.0?
I don't think the increase in sound and picture quality is enough to do it.
BR2.0 is just a firmware upgrade I believe. It's new software that let's BR pull some fancy tricks that HD-DVD could do that it couldn't before now.
hell it was only a few years ago that DVD really beat out VHS, it will take time, a lot of time, but unlike DVD, blu ray has real push that wasnt there before, HDTV's are quickly taking over the market, and with that DVD's are looking worse and worse, much worse than the difference between VHS and DVD... now anyone with a new TV is going to be interested in this format, where before if you got a new TV it was still 480i and the difference between VHS and DVD wasnt that great when considering picture (now sound and continence sure, but poeple will tolerate that more than a shitty picture on a brand new HDTV) i see it taking another... 2 years to really start a push, and you see it on top of DVD within 4 years, about the same that DVD took to top VHS but for different reasons.
Bingo.
any idea when thats going to come out?
LOL
If ANYTHING had a "real push" to overtake the competition, it was DVD over VHS.
All Blue-Ray has is bit better looking. Except every study that's come out says the same thing.
"No One Cares"
Blue-Ray will only overtake DVD by default. Basically, it'll get down to $100 and a bit players and $10 movies, and people will buy their new purchases in Blue-Ray because, what the hell, it's the same price as DVD and the sales guy says it's better.
We'll see how fast Sony can get those prices down.
Hey now, VHS was very successful.
Use blu-ray.
Also I guess this means the "Whatever format porn uses becomes the winning format" law is now broken.
VHS was Victor Company. Sony's equivalent format was Beta, which VHS beat the holy hell out of in the home market. (They managed to make a niche within the professional market however.)
"several of VHS' critical technologies are licensed from Sony"
Except Sony was Betamax, not VHS.
It wasn't "their' format though. It was the licensees. Sony tried to get the market with beta and failed.
It also had scenes you could skip forward and back to, and select from the menu. Also, you didn't have to rewind them like a VHS tape. And you added special features like audio commentaries. And they took up a lot less space on the shelf than VHS.
DVD had a lot more going for it than picture/sound quality over VHS.
The same is NOT the case with the Blu-Ray vs. DVD battle. What features, other than picture and sound quality, do Blu-Ray discs offer that DVDs don't?
And how much is the average consumer going to care about the visual difference between an upscaled DVD and a Blu-Ray?
There's something wrong with a component in your HT system or your TV, then. There's no reason for a DVD to look bad, it should look no worse than on a regular TV and, if your DVD player is an upscaler, it should look better.
> turn on light
Good start to the day. Pity it's going to be the worst one of your life. The light is now on.
No, but it was joke to begin with. It's a funny bit of history. It's like if Sony had developed all the motion sensing technology for the Wii and then sold it to Nintendo.
But all of that said, I'm glad it's over. I can finally get a player now. It will probably be a used PS3, because there's no way on earth I'm actually giving Sony my money for one.
I've always thought it was a smart move on MS' part. They can just go with whatever wins.
What would the company buying the DVDs get out of it? The only way it would be useful would be if they could resell the DVDs for a profit, which would at least partially defeat the purpose, since that means somebody else would be buying them (instead of a Blu-ray movie).
They pretty much said that every time someone said "Why an addon?"
Uhm, no. There is a difference between a DVD and HD content, but the difference in picture quality between a VHS cassette and DVD is light-years beyond that. A DVD in a competent upconverting player is hardly comparable to the ever-degrading blur that was VHS, no matter how you frame it.
Blu-ray will have to get cheaper in all aspects, and faster than high-speed broadband begins to really penetrate the market and thus open up true on-demand HD content, before Sony and Panasonic can start doing their victory jig.
I would assume this probably wouldn't happen, but the U.S. is glacial in this regard...in fact it ranks 24th behind Estonia in broadband penetration, let alone awesome stuff like FiOS. And since U.S. to a large degree effects some of this stuff, it's tough to say.
Gumstick memory? Doesn't ring a bell...
EDIT: Oh, Memory Stick, I thought you had meant a precursor or something. I wouldn't call it a "failure" really. With so many options I don't think any one memory product really outsells another, and with Sony's still reasonable market penetration with their own products Memory Stick does alright.
I think the huge size of North America may have an effect on that.
You know a TINY effect. Just a smidge.
Personally, I think that digital distribution will be the next mass market format...
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Also because we're an options based consumer economy. The more companies to choose from, the harder it is to get everyone on the same page.
EDIT: We're 15th behind Luxembourg on the chart I checked Smilingoat, where did you get your list?