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Nintendo to charge for online gaming

deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
edited February 2008 in Games and Technology
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/02/nintendo-to-beg.html
-- Nintendo's Wi-Fi Connection service has always been entirely free of charge, but the company will soon introduce a pay-to-play service for some games, it announced at Game Developers Conference.

"Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection Pay And Play" will let users subscribe on a game-by-game basis to certain titles. Nintendo project leader Takashi Aoyama announced the service at GDC, but did not say what upcoming games would require payment for the service, or how much they would cost.

To avoid customer confusion, Pay-And-Play games will have a red icon on the game's box that reads Pay And Play, in place of the traditional blue Wi-Fi Connection icon, which will only be used for games that are free to play.

This is a pretty big change for Nintendo, who has always been adamant about wanting online gameplay to be free. While this might attract more developers to the service with a new revenue stream, it also might confuse consumers -- and be a hassle if the payment system isn't easy. You'll use Wii Points to pay for the online gaming, so it should be interesting to see if this extends to the DS Lite or if it's just restricted to Wii.

So, essentially they are offering far and away the worst online play of any of the consoles, and now they are going to start charging on a game by game basis? This is an absolutely awful plan.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Haha. Xbox Lives fee is looking more and more worth it every day.

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  • DjiemDjiem Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Maybe THESE games will have a much better online service and won't be as restricted by Nintendo's "THINK OF THE PEDOPHILES" stupid fears.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I will shit one, no, two bricks if it costs me money to play Brawl or Kart online.

    However, I would be glad to pay to play an online Pokemon MMO. Hint hint, Nintendo.

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  • Joshua368Joshua368 Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    ...I'm just happy Smash Brothers is already out and safe. D:

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  • X Equals LoserX Equals Loser Wilford Brimley Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Edit: Oh, right. The whole Japan thing.

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  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well considering I dont play my Wii with people other than friends in the same room I could give a rats ass about there "online" capabilities But it still seems to be a stupid idea.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Someone come in and please tell me this is just an April 1st news release that was sent out a month early.

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  • ItalaxItalax Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    It's out in Japan, I think Brawl is safe.

    Mario Kart on the other hand...

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  • agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Hopefully this only is applying to a mamorpagorg games.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Edit: Oh, right. The whole Japan thing.

    Brawl is out in Japan, and has free online. It would be stupid to assume that Nintendo would force the Americas to pay for online.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    From IGN:
    GDC 2008: Pay to Play Your Wii
    Nintendo announces a mysterious new service.
    by Daemon Hatfield


    February 22, 2008 - During a Game Developers Conference session called "Planning the Wii Menu" today, Nintendo's Takashi Aoyama announced a new Pay to Play program. This will be a new version of the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection (NWFC). Aoyama explained that NWFC will remain a free service, but forthcoming experiences will require users to pay a fee to enjoy. These services will fall under the new NWFC: Pay to Play program. Games that utilize the new service will feature a logo similar to the one used for NWFC but is orange and reads Pay to Play at the bottom.

    Unfortunately, Aoyama did not go into details about what games or services we will be paying to play. He did say Nintendo is taking steps to ensure consumers don't mistakenly buy a Pay to Play game with the expectation that they will be able to access the entire game for no extra charge.

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    If it's for an MMO, fine, I can deal with that. It's fair and expected.

    If it's for online in general, then I give them a big Fuck You.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm not going to lie. I didn't see this coming! I am cautiously optimistic about the price. I mean... They can't charge very much, right? It says a "per game" basis, so I don't see why it would be >$5.

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  • Captain ElevenCaptain Eleven The last card is a kronk Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The one thing that's always mystified me about Nintendo is how on earth they can have no idea how to do the whole online thing.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Not me they won't

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  • mntorankusumntorankusu I'm not sure how to use this thing.... Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well.

    It'll probably be for games that have more operating costs than the typical peer-to-peer games that use the service so far.

    But I'm not paying for it in any case.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    People may think this is just an early April Fools gag, but the joke is on us.. :(

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  • ItalaxItalax Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Oh god. I just thought that this is probably going to be in Animal Crossing Wii.

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  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Wow. Huge news. This could be no big deal or it could be a huge pain in the ass. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.

    Also, Nintendo games will now have DLC.

    http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/02/nintendo-will-b.html
    Aoyama said that Nintendo will, in the near future, allow Wii owners to use Wii Points (purchased with a credit card transaction online or on cards in stores) to buy add-on content for games. He said that add-on contents would also be available for disc-based games as well as WiiWare downloadable titles.

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  • BibbleBibble __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    MMO's maybe?

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Italax wrote: »
    Oh god. I just thought that this is probably going to be in Animal Crossing Wii.
    Yup!

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  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Animal Crossing Wii ladies and gentlemen. Calling it. Possibly even Mario Kart... but I don't see it being Mario Kart.

    My guess is that Animal Crossing Wii will support a form of item transfer like the previous version, but with more customizations. If you're able to design shirts, tiles, hairstyles, wallpapers, etc, etc. The Database could get pretty big for so many people playing. If there is a "World of Animal Crossing" where every city can be pinpointed on a map (ala Second Life style) with major urban areas run by Nintendo it could scale the cost of that game quite a bit.

    Or... it could finally be that fucking Harry Potter MMO using the Wiimote as a wand...*cumsplosion*

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  • SirUltimosSirUltimos Don't talk, Rusty. Just paint. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Wow. Huge news. This could be no big deal or it could be a huge pain in the ass. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.

    Also, Nintendo games will now have DLC.

    http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/02/nintendo-will-b.html
    Aoyama said that Nintendo will, in the near future, allow Wii owners to use Wii Points (purchased with a credit card transaction online or on cards in stores) to buy add-on content for games. He said that add-on contents would also be available for disc-based games as well as WiiWare downloadable titles.

    A lot of good that does if we don't get some kind of external storage. We're not gonna be able to download anything if we can only use the internal storage.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    haha

    nintendo's making money hand over fist and they've gone crazy

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  • XtarathXtarath Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I sense this will all end in pain.

    And death.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    haha

    nintendo's making money hand over fist and they've gone crazy

    Virtua Boy 2 confirmed.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, this could turn out to fuck Nintendo right in the ass.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Mario kart better not be pay to play online. Will not pay a fee to play online.

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  • GanluanGanluan Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The fact they'll have a special indicator for "pay to play" indicates to me that this will only apply to persistent online games, not peer to peer online. If it is, then it's really fucking stupid.

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  • NarianNarian Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Are there any other big expos happening in the near future?

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  • WordherderWordherder Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    SirUltimos wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Wow. Huge news. This could be no big deal or it could be a huge pain in the ass. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.

    Also, Nintendo games will now have DLC.

    http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/02/nintendo-will-b.html
    Aoyama said that Nintendo will, in the near future, allow Wii owners to use Wii Points (purchased with a credit card transaction online or on cards in stores) to buy add-on content for games. He said that add-on contents would also be available for disc-based games as well as WiiWare downloadable titles.

    A lot of good that does if we don't get some kind of external storage. We're not gonna be able to download anything if we can only use the internal storage.

    SURELY with all the talk of Wii Ware and DLC we'll have some sort of storage solution in the near future... right?

    Also, the more I think about Nintendo's plan to charge online, the more it sounds like a pain in the ass. Live has a single fee that covers every game (outside of MMOs). But having to subscribe game-by-game? Ergh.

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  • HallowedFaithHallowedFaith Call me Cloud. Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    The_Scarab wrote: »
    Haha. Xbox Lives fee is looking more and more worth it every day.

    No it doesn't. :)

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  • CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Well, this could turn out to fuck Nintendo right in the ass.

    Or it could end up doing little. I'm going to wait and see what kind of games the PtP thing applies to before getting angry.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2008
    Nintendo saw EA making cash on DLC and want in on the money hats. Simple.

    I swear to God, Nintendo, I will forsake you if you fuck it up. The only reason I'm putting up with your crap FC's is because the service is free.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I'm thinking this might be for the monster hunter game, too

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Oh shit. I will pay for Animal Crossing online. That would be so fucking sweet.

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  • MblackwellMblackwell Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    I seem to recall reading in an interview at IGN that WiiWare developers would be able to use the SD card...

    I'll try and find it...

    Edit, found it:
    IGN: What specific Wii functionality will creators have access to when making a Wii Ware game? Can they save to SD? Can they do online? Wii Connect 24? Is it like a smaller (but full) Wii product, or is it standalone?

    Prata:
    The Wii Ware developers will have access to the same functionality as they would a regular Wii disc game. The specifics you mentioned such as SD and online, Wii Connect 24, and episodic content is all there. They key point I want to stress though is that it isn't required. Sometimes you make a game and it's best expressed as a single player game or multiplayer game, and the advantage here is that we're leaving it to the creators to focus their resources on the areas that best express their ideas. We won't force their hand into functions or features that may or may not add value to the consumer.

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  • TelMarineTelMarine Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    also the thread title is a bit broad, I guess it is getting people to look in though.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited February 2008
    Hmm...I think this is just a misunderstanding.

    I really don't think this is something you can point at nintendo and say "fuck you". Because I doubt nintendo is going to use the method.

    I think this is just nintendo saying "look, we have no online infrastructure but we want 3rd parties to develop games for the wii so we're going to allow them to charge if they want".

    This isn't that unusual.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    edited February 2008
    titmouse wrote: »
    Well, this could turn out to fuck Nintendo right in the ass.

    Or it could end up doing little. I'm going to wait and see what kind of games the PtP thing applies to before getting angry.

    Unless their new "pay to play" games have a persistent friends list (without friends codes), voice chat, invitation in game to other games, and all the other features that I can pay 5 dollars a month for on live this is a horrible idea.

    How much are they going to charge a month for this (possibly per game)? $5? Why the fuck would anyone pay that when you can pay $5 and get quality online across the whole of live?

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