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A moment of silence please . . .

skwanchskwanch Registered User regular
edited March 2008 in Games and Technology
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/03/04/obit.gygax.ap/index.html

TL;DR: The man who created the RPG from scratch is no longer with us

LFG ST, Mara . . . oh nevermind
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  • PratleyPratley Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    "..."

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  • Lucky CynicLucky Cynic Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I remember when D&D was hot shit...

    Now it's Warhammer.

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Damn, I only rolled a 4. Silence failed.
    Sorry

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  • GrudgeGrudge blessed is the mind too small for doubtRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    never liked the D&D rules much myself, but props for creating a phenomenon

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    He failed his save vs Death. :(

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  • AroducAroduc regular
    edited March 2008
    To be fair, he took someone else's general rules, expanded them a little bit and reworked them for a fantasy setting. Not quite from scratch.

    Also, I already used my Vice Presidential Action Rangers joke in the D&D Gygax thread.

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  • SamphisSamphis Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Did he drop any decent loot?

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  • PratleyPratley Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    His Greyhawk novels were some of the first I read in the genre. Also I remember his cameo on the simpsons, where he was hanging out with Al Gore and Stephen Hawking.

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  • Mustachio JonesMustachio Jones jerseyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Pratley wrote: »
    His Greyhawk novels were some of the first I read in the genre. Also I remember his cameo on Futurama, where he was hanging out with Al Gore and Stephen Hawking.

    Fixed. Don't get your Groening mixed up.

    May his pantheon of choice rest his soul. Reroll? y/n

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  • LuckyStrikeYoLuckyStrikeYo Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    No, he was on the Simpsons.

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  • tarnoktarnok Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    We need a ninth level cleric, stat!

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  • GyralGyral Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    No, he was on the Simpsons.

    He might have been, but he was definitely on Futurama:

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    No, he was on the Simpsons.

    He did not appear on The Simpsons with Al Gore and Stephen Hawkings. That's more the point.

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  • AlgertmanAlgertman Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    He failed his save vs Death. :(

    you stole that from Fark

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Algertman wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    He failed his save vs Death. :(

    you stole that from Fark


    I did not. I don't even know what Fark is. I made it up all on my lonesome.

    It wasn't a hard joke to think of.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Put the dice away

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Sad that, never played D&D, not that big of a nerd, but he seemed like a nice guy the one time I got to talk to him.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It was tastless and dehumanising anyway. This is a man who gave you that joke. Respect that at least.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It was tastless and dehumanising anyway. This is a man who gave you that joke. Respect that at least.


    Bite me.

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  • Fort1tudeFort1tude Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Damn, and I just got back into DnD again too.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Fort1tude wrote: »
    Damn, and I just got back into DnD again too.

    That's what killed him you bastard.

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  • StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Perhaps his heart just couldn't take 4th edition D&D.
    Sad that, never played D&D, not that big of a nerd, but he seemed like a nice guy the one time I got to talk to him.

    So, not only have you met the man who created D&D, but you’re posting about it on a dork/video game forum... You’re a nerd like the rest of us, accept it and move along. :P.

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  • LCDXXLCDXX A flask of wood and glass Terre Haute, INRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    Pratley wrote: »
    "..."

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Strikerkc wrote: »
    Perhaps his heart just couldn't take 4th edition D&D.
    Sad that, never played D&D, not that big of a nerd, but he seemed like a nice guy the one time I got to talk to him.

    So, not only have you met the man who created D&D, but you’re posting about it on a dork/video game forum... You’re a nerd like the rest of us, accept it and move along. :P.
    Did you just put a period after an emote?..

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  • FiziksFiziks Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Tom et ses Chums.

    Still the coolest D&D movie I have ever seen.

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  • IceBurnerIceBurner It's cold and there are penguins.Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    It's quite interesting to consider the effect he's had on the world. A good deal of what we enjoy in recreation today can be traced back to ideas brought about or popularized by this man. Not quite Wright Brothers important, but it's still wide-reaching.

    Take video games for example. It's obvious many old RP video games on PC and console alike emulated D&D to various degrees and in various ways. In some cases what used to be technical constraints of such D&D-inspired engines became defining features of the genre that persist to this day.

    Heck, what about the lingo and in-jokes people are throwing around in this thread? D&D wasn't the first or only RPG (or Gary's only work), but it profoundly popularized the hobby and sure does have a pervasive (sub?)cultural influence. Even bad RP'ing jokes passively acknowledge Gary's impact.

    That said, may he reroll onto a better plane, with a kind DM.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Take video games for example. It's obvious many old RP video games on PC and console alike emulated D&D to various degrees and in various ways. In some cases what used to be technical constraints of such D&D-inspired engines became defining features of the genre that persist to this day.

    Hell, Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for D&D. In many cases, they've been directly influenced; not only in the gameplay system, but a large amount of "classic" FF monsters are directly taken from D&D, such as the Marilith or the Mindflayer.

    D&D practically invented leveling up!

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  • langfor6langfor6 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    How depressing. :(

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i admit i got a little misty eyed earlier today when i read the news

    :(

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  • KevlarMosesKevlarMoses Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Whos name shall i worship in my moms basement after a nice hot sweaty (complete with twinkies and pizza) game of D&D?

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  • NativityInBlackNativityInBlack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Whos name shall i worship in my moms basement after a nice hot sweaty (complete with twinkies and pizza) game of D&D?

    He will live on, on our memories and games.

    He brought life to our minds, and to many, something to look upon to.

    Hopefully he passed away in peace.

    Thank you Gary, if you can read forums from there!

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  • Operative21Operative21 Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I got my first exposure to D&D when I was five. I stealthily pilfered my brother's copy of the Dungeon Masters guide from his room, mainly because I was curious about what he and his friends were playing a couple of times a week (I suppose in retrospect I should have stolen the players handbook first, but 'Dungeon Master' sounded so much cooler a title than 'player').

    Suffice to say, years later I still remember those books with a great deal of fondness, and they were definitely my gateway into the world of tabletop gaming, and later on computer gaming. I had the pleasure of meeting Mr. Gygax briefly two years ago at a convention here in Toronto. I caught him just as he was heading out of the building to catch a cab. He was obviously in a hurry, but I very much wanted to shake his hand before he left. Despite being in a hurry, he graciously stopped and listened quite patiently to my compliments. Then he humbly thanked me for the compliments and apologized for having to rush off.

    Rest in peace Mr. Gygax. Thank you for a wealth of wonderful memories.

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  • MistaCreepyMistaCreepy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Never played PnP games (except for some minor calculations scribbled during some tabletop wargames) but the legacy he leaves behind is astounding.

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  • AtimaAtima Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Sad to see such an icon go. I was never as heavy into D&D (or any sort of Pen and Paper RPG) as I'm sure some of you are (played a lot my freshman and sophmore year of high school, played a bit here and there in college), but it truly was an experience that I'm happy to have had. In spite of all of the games that D&D inspired, the original was just something in and of itself. I met some really cool people because of the game.

    RIP Gygax. Thanks for the opportunities, the friends I made, and the imaginations you inspired in our culture. And one of the funnier episodes of Futurama.

    Man, now I really want to find a group to play with. Shame I don't have any local gamer friends (well, not any particularly social ones).

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  • StrikerkcStrikerkc Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Did you just put a period after an emote?..

    I did indeed, it seemed to have the importance and all around of a scentence, thus it recived punctuation.

    Maybe in honor of his passing, my D&D friends will stop using min/maxed power game characters. :roll:.
    sorry, I couldn't help it. :rotate:.

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  • KVWKVW Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Cherrn wrote: »
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Take video games for example. It's obvious many old RP video games on PC and console alike emulated D&D to various degrees and in various ways. In some cases what used to be technical constraints of such D&D-inspired engines became defining features of the genre that persist to this day.

    Hell, Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for D&D. In many cases, they've been directly influenced; not only in the gameplay system, but a large amount of "classic" FF monsters are directly taken from D&D, such as the Marilith or the Mindflayer.

    D&D practically invented leveling up!

    Not to overshadow the man's death with nerd infighting, but with no internet to speak of and a hefty language barrier, how exactly did D&D become popular enough back in the 80's, when it was still just nerds in their basement, even moreso than it is today, to influence non-English speaking Japanese programmers that probably didn't even know what it was? Lord of the Rings or some other influential fantasy book, which influenced and created most of the races and creatures in D&D, probably had more impact on Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy than some super niche, barely marketed table top game in the 80's did.

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  • tarnoktarnok Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    KVW wrote: »
    Cherrn wrote: »
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Take video games for example. It's obvious many old RP video games on PC and console alike emulated D&D to various degrees and in various ways. In some cases what used to be technical constraints of such D&D-inspired engines became defining features of the genre that persist to this day.

    Hell, Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for D&D. In many cases, they've been directly influenced; not only in the gameplay system, but a large amount of "classic" FF monsters are directly taken from D&D, such as the Marilith or the Mindflayer.

    D&D practically invented leveling up!

    Not to overshadow the man's death with nerd infighting, but with no internet to speak of and a hefty language barrier, how exactly did D&D become popular enough back in the 80's, when it was still just nerds in their basement, even moreso than it is today, to influence non-English speaking Japanese programmers that probably didn't even know what it was? Lord of the Rings or some other influential fantasy book, which influenced and created most of the races and creatures in D&D, probably had more impact on Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy than some super niche, barely marketed table top game in the 80's did.

    I have to disagree if for no other reason than spells per day. The very idea is convoluted if you attempt to explain it in real life. I refuse to believe that many people came up with the idea independently. Also, I cannot think of any other source than D&D for mindflayers.

    Also, I think you're underestimating the extent to which nerds in the basement were also the nerds making computer games.

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  • MgcwMgcw Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    KVW wrote: »
    Cherrn wrote: »
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Take video games for example. It's obvious many old RP video games on PC and console alike emulated D&D to various degrees and in various ways. In some cases what used to be technical constraints of such D&D-inspired engines became defining features of the genre that persist to this day.

    Hell, Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for D&D. In many cases, they've been directly influenced; not only in the gameplay system, but a large amount of "classic" FF monsters are directly taken from D&D, such as the Marilith or the Mindflayer.

    D&D practically invented leveling up!

    Not to overshadow the man's death with nerd infighting, but with no internet to speak of and a hefty language barrier, how exactly did D&D become popular enough back in the 80's, when it was still just nerds in their basement, even moreso than it is today, to influence non-English speaking Japanese programmers that probably didn't even know what it was? Lord of the Rings or some other influential fantasy book, which influenced and created most of the races and creatures in D&D, probably had more impact on Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy than some super niche, barely marketed table top game in the 80's did.

    How does it feel to be so wrong?

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    tarnok wrote: »
    KVW wrote: »
    Cherrn wrote: »
    IceBurner wrote: »
    Take video games for example. It's obvious many old RP video games on PC and console alike emulated D&D to various degrees and in various ways. In some cases what used to be technical constraints of such D&D-inspired engines became defining features of the genre that persist to this day.

    Hell, Dragon Warrior and Final Fantasy probably wouldn't even exist if it weren't for D&D. In many cases, they've been directly influenced; not only in the gameplay system, but a large amount of "classic" FF monsters are directly taken from D&D, such as the Marilith or the Mindflayer.

    D&D practically invented leveling up!

    Not to overshadow the man's death with nerd infighting, but with no internet to speak of and a hefty language barrier, how exactly did D&D become popular enough back in the 80's, when it was still just nerds in their basement, even moreso than it is today, to influence non-English speaking Japanese programmers that probably didn't even know what it was? Lord of the Rings or some other influential fantasy book, which influenced and created most of the races and creatures in D&D, probably had more impact on Dragon Warrior or Final Fantasy than some super niche, barely marketed table top game in the 80's did.

    I have to disagree if for no other reason than spells per day. The very idea is convoluted if you attempt to explain it in real life. I refuse to believe that many people came up with the idea independently. Also, I cannot think of any other source than D&D for mindflayers.

    Also, I think you're underestimating the extent to which nerds in the basement were also the nerds making computer games.

    To be fair, the D&D magic system was heavily influenced by Jack Vance. But I'm not disagreeing, D&D and Gary Gygax heavily influenced gaming in general and CRPGs specifically. D&D was hardly "super niche" in the 80s. Hell, the market was FLOODED with PnP RPGs by the 80s.

    Seeing that Gygax has left us for the big gaming convention in the sky (or whatever plane it is on) makes this a sad day, indeed.

    Especially given that this is GM Day

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  • NativityInBlackNativityInBlack Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The OP should change to Gygax name imho.

    From his last interview on gamespy:

    GameSpy: Last question. I hope this doesn't sound morbid, but what would you like to have written on your tombstone? How do you want the world to remember you?
    Gygax: I was gonna say, "Better here than Philadelphia," but I think somebody already did that. [Laughs] I would like the world to remember me as the guy who really enjoyed playing games and sharing his knowledge and his fun pastimes with everybody else.

    Source: http://pc.gamespy.com/articles/538/538820p1.html
    I would like the world to remember me as the guy who really enjoyed playing games and sharing his knowledge and his fun pastimes with everybody else.

    We can do that. :)

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