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Your personality.

Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
edited March 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
What are you like?

What were you like? Did you used to be markedly different from how you are now, and how did you come to be how you are? I suspect that a lot of answers will revolve around family and close friends. How did they influence you?

Are you happy with how you are, and what your personality has done for you? Do you want to be someone else, personality-wise? Are you trying to be someone else, and what are you doing if this is the case?

Is there someone or some characteristic you try to model yourself after? An amalgamation, perhaps? What is that paragon like? What is the paragon of how you idealize yourself?

How about on the internet, on the phone, etcetera? Is your personality different here than interacting with people in person?

Do you wish other people were more like you?

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    We took the Myers Briggs personality test at our work. On the Myers Briggs personality type I'm an INTP.

    INTP types are quiet, thoughtful, analytical individuals who don't mind spending long periods of time on their own, working through problems and forming solutions. They are very curious about systems and how things work, and are frequently found in careers such as science, architecture and law. INTPs tend to be less at ease in social situations and the caring professions, although they enjoy the company of those who share their interests. They also tend to be impatient with the bureaucracy, rigid hierarchies, and politics prevalent in many professions, preferring to work informally with others as equals.[1]

    INTPs organize their understanding of any topic by articulating principles, and they are especially drawn to theoretical constructs—such as the MBTI. Having articulated these principles for themselves, they can demonstrate remarkable skill in explaining complex ideas to others in simple terms, especially in writing. On the other hand, their ability to grasp complexity may also lead them to provide overly detailed explanations of "simple" ideas, and listeners may judge that the INTP makes things more difficult than they are. This to the INTP, however, is incomprehensible: they are merely presenting all of the information.[1]

    INTPs' extroverted intuition gives them a quick wit, especially with language, and they can defuse the tension in gatherings by comical observations and references. They can be charming, even in their quiet reserve, and are often astounded by the high esteem in which their friends and colleagues hold them.[1]

    An insulted INTP, however, has a tendency to unveil their full mastery of logical intuition. Many previously secure, confident people have been left crushed by an INTP's sudden and piercingly accurate criticism. After such an incident, the INTP is as likely to be as devastated as the recipient; they have broken the rules of debate and exposed their irrational emotions. This to an INTP is the crux of the problem: emotions are to be dealt with in a logical manner, as improperly handled they can only harm.[2]

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    sounds like a cool test

    I've gotten the DSM-II test done. It's kinda scary having a line graph map out your personality flaws a little too well.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2008
    We took the Myers Briggs personality test at our work. On the Myers Briggs personality type I'm an INTP.

    I'm of the opinion that MBTI is mostly a load of bullshit made by... eh, I'll just cite wikipedia.
    The scientific basis of the MBTI has been questioned. Neither Katharine Cook Briggs nor Isabel Briggs Myers had any scientific qualifications in the field of psychometric testing. Furthermore, Carl Jung's theory of psychological type, which the MBTI attempts to operationalise, is not based on any scientific studies. Jung's methods primarily included introspection and anecdote, methods largely rejected by the modern field of cognitive psychology.

    [...]

    The reliability of the test has been interpreted as being low, with test takers who retake the test often being assigned a different type. According to surveys performed by the proponents of Myers-Briggs, the highest percentage of people who fell into the same category on the second test is only 47%. Furthermore, a wide range of 39% - 76% of those tested fall into different types upon retesting weeks or years later, and many people's types were also found to vary according to the time of the day.

    And so on.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I work for our county's mental health center, so they obviously that it had some validity. All of our centers (3 of them) participated. I would say it described almost all of our staff very accurately.

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  • Loren MichaelLoren Michael Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm not unhappy with Myers-Briggs-type statements (thought I'd prefer self-assessment), but I'd rather this not slip into a tangent about the validity of such personality tests.

    Not that this is necessarily going there, but I want to nip it in the bud before any scuffles occur.

    EDIT: And really, it answers a minimum of the questions in the OP. If you're going to post that, please, fill it out a little.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Eh. The Myers Briggs is alright, but the results are dependent largely on the day -- though this is likely a problem with any test of personality. I've taken it probably a dozen times. Usually I'm an INTP, though sometimes INTJ, and even occasionally an INFP. I also ALWAYS forget what the alternative to N is. R? S?

    Personally I feel that my personality has been fairly consistent since around late high-school, though friends and relatives may disagree. I also don't really act drastically different on the internet or phone -- unless talking to unhelpful customer service reps when I become much more confrontational and abrasive than I am usually.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    What am I like?

    I'm awesome.

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  • jotatejotate Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm quiet in a crowd, nervous, and filled with self doubt. I've always been that way. In the last few years, I've figured out how to fake it better. I go out of my way to speak confidently with an upbeat tone, despite the fact that I'm pretty paranoid about what everyone else is thinking/saying.

    Based on what people tell me, they think I have a good sense of humor and am a pretty likable guy. I guess I fake it pretty well.

    Edit: Lots of posts since I clicked on the reply button. RocketSauce's INTP description seems fairly accurate.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    My personality was completely different when I was in elementary school. I was very outgoing, caring, fun to be around. So much so that I would regularly told to stop smiling or laughing, as I was about the goofiest kid on the planet. I ruined our talent show skit in front of the school by laughing uncontrollably when I was "killed". I got so fed up by people telling me to stop being so happy, that one day I saw a kid who never smiled, and just generally looked like a badass, that I decided to copy that. I would contort my face to look kind of "mean".

    If anything, my general personality is just neutral, to slightly sarcastic. I joke around a lot, but if I'm just by myself working or something, I imagine I look like a stone statue. I'd also say I get irritated a lot by people I think aren't as smart as I am. When I do get upset, I get very sarcastic. Add to that my years in debate, and natural propensity for arguement, and I can be a complete asshat to people who start something with me.

    If I had to pick somebody I'm most like, it'd probably be Seth Rogen. He seems to be closest to what my personality is usually like.

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  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The Myers Briggs test has told me that I'm an INTJ on more than one occasion, and I'm willing to go along with it - mainly because it means that I'm like Hannibal Lecter and Professor Moriarty.

    It sometimes strikes me as weird that people are amazed that a test can tell you what you're like simply by asking about your personality.

    I've also self-diagnosed myself with any number of neuroses, but that's mainly because I over-analyse stuff and assume the worst when it comes to my thought processes.

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Hmm, neat question, one that requires some thought to answer...

    I'll start by saying that first of all, yes, my personality has greatly changed overall since my youth, though not in fundamental ways.

    Like many here, I grew up shy and insecure. My grade school years were spent under the opression of the budding jocks and near-abusive sister. These experiences shaped my personality and I began to take on more introverted and introspective traits. I withdrew into books and video games, as nerds are wont to do when the outside world isn't quite so accepting.

    High School offered a completely new environment: A bigger town, and none of the old classmates. I enjoyed small-time pseudo-celebrity status as many of the students there were former students of my father's, who was a well-respected and well-liked grade 8 teacher. The mere fact that I was "Mr. Undead's Son!" gave me instant social cred, and I slowly began to learn what it felt like to be a bit more socially accepted.

    Needless to say, I was still a bit stunted from my grade school experience, and had not grown into a fully-realized social person. Grades 9 through 11 were spent mostly wearing black, still spending way too much time at the local arcade, and not being able to meaningfully interact with girls at all. Still, I had friends for a change, and things began to look up.

    At this time, I was raised in a Catholic conservative household, and it was all I knew. My views were ultra-conservative, and I went to mass every Sunday. High School, being a bigger world, began challenging my views for the first time, and I remember slowly starting to question those views (both personally and with my family) for the first time.

    Things really turned around for me in 12th grade. Prior to 12th grade, my apathy and shyness didn't allow for me to participate in any extra-curricular activities. I was painfully clumsy and thus sports were out of the question, and I found the more "brainy" clubs (chess, reading, etc...) to be too intimidating, so I simply kept to myself. That changed however once I was convinced to go see our school's yearly theatrical production.

    The production was produced entirely by students and faculty. Original script and ideas, with sketches created from scratch by budding dramatists. I was dragged to the show at the end of grade 11... and was blown away. The camaraderie evident on stage, and the scope of the production was like nothing I had ever though possible coming from the mind and work of 16-18 year olds. After seeing what my school was capable of, I knew I had to be a part of it next year.

    Thus came grade 12, and, for the first time, I began taking interest in my school and the activities it offered. Being religious at the time, I began taking part in religious retreats, as well as signing up for the scriptwriting commitee for that year's play. I began making new friends (who were part of the "popular" clique at school) and I had access to my mother's car, which allowed me freedom like I had never experienced before. That year, and the following one (back when high schools in Canada went on to grade13) proved to be the truly formative years of my personality, where I went from shy, introverted nerd, to outgoing, fun-loving geek.

    I had my first experiences with the fairer sex at that time, fell in love for the first time, and really started seeing that the world didn't have to be as lame as it had felt up to that time.

    As of today, I still feel my personality has some work to do, but there is no question that I feel pretty good about who I am right now as a person. I have my flaws: I have to contend with depression (especially in winter), and I tend to be lazy at messy at times, so these are things I definately stand to improve. Otherwise though, I think I'm a pretty ok guy!
    I'm told I'm easy to like and fun to be around, easy to talk to and I never lose my temper. I have been called "a patient, patient man", since I tend to not easily get flustered in the face of anger or stupidity. I tend to pretty much act the same way online (though perhaps a little more refined thanks to the time filter of having to type out my thoughts).
    If there's any facet of my personality that I think more people should adopt, it's my patience and laid-backedness (made up words! woo!). I almost never loose my cool. The advantages of that is that it makes me look like the thought of reason in any argument, and when the time comes where showing a bit of emotion is called for, people REALLY notice. If something bad enough to make me angry, people know it's a big deal. I've had the toughest guys back down once they've seen me angry, simply because they know they must have crossed a serious line to get me going.

    Wow, that was way, way longer than I expected. To anyone who read that... I salute you.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    When I was like 12 I decided I wanted to be the best person humanity has ever seen and I laid down the ground works to become a cruel, insecure, socially inept egomaniac with a terrible inferiority complex.

    With that being said, I've never really given my personality much thought as I always do my best to portray the most likeable personality.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    At the very end of college (highschool for you yanks) the entire year did a personality test, it was based on four colours and told you what kind of worker you are, and where you’ll likely end up. Well out of a hundred so people there were five of us who got blue. Apparently that meant you’d got it in you to be a doctor, high end manager, philanthropist etc. This seemed rather shockingly accurate, as in the group there was one going to Cambridge, one to imperial, one in medicine etc, (and this school whilst decent was full of mediocre students), and well coasting old me.

    Which brings me to my two main personality flaws. Firstly I’m far too arrogant for my own good. The second being, if something doesn’t really interest me work wise, or have some reason I want to do excellently in it, I won’t try. I’ll knock that essay out in an hour and fill it with a couple quotes I’ve grabbed from a couple books.

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  • DynagripDynagrip Break me a million hearts HoustonRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm a Virgo.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2008
    It sometimes strikes me as weird that people are amazed that a test can tell you what you're like simply by asking about your personality.

    The Barnum effect. "Psychics" use the same for cold reading. "You've been thinking about buying something lately."

    As for me, I tend to throw a spanner in the works of most personality tests, what with having an autistic diagnose. (That's the third D&D thread I mentioned it in today...)

    Many of these tests would have me as shy and withdrawn, but that's pretty far from the truth -- the MBTI question was just formulated as "I tend to be quiet", which I answered truthfully.

    I'm just a quiet person unless someone else is talking to me. I have no problems whatsoever to, say, go on stage in school and hold a long speech about some project we worked on, and then getting told that I sounded incredibly confident and secure.
    I've also self-diagnosed myself with any number of neuroses, but that's mainly because I over-analyse stuff and assume the worst when it comes to my thought processes.

    As I like to say whenever psychology comes up (I hang around in an IRC channel for neuropsychiatrical disabilities), this is a very poor area for self-diagnosis. :P

    I've done a handful of computer-based tests of the "Here is a question. I (strongly) agree/disagree" formula. Some of them gave some pretty big spikes on certain mental disabilities, typically borderline personality and schizoid personality disorder.

    Then I went through the results with a psychiatrist, focusing on those questions that gave high indications for those disorders, discussed what the question meant, how I interpreted it etc, with the option to change my answer. And suddenly I was below the limits for it to be a disorder.

    That's what I consider a personality to be: your own personal little blend of various disorders. :P

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  • OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2008
    I was quiet and withdrawn growing up. I was eccentric as a child, and my parents rejected me from an early age. My mother herself was adopted -- the one daughter of many that was deemed to be past the breaking point for sustainability. She was distant and cold, and my father at the time was likewise -- both smoked and both drank. They spoiled my sisters, but were at a loss for how to spoil me. I was disinterested and indifferent. I constantly put myself into situations where I was bullied or exploited. I graduated grade school and moved onto secondary.

    I was a center of attention from the start, more or less. I was remarkably bright, with a silver tongue, and my brazen eccentricity came across as charisma. I flitted between extremes -- I craved companionship and would surround myself with friends, and then reach a point where I would lash out (violently, even) if I couldn't be alone. There was depression, mania. I don't think my secondary schooling is a good place to look for answers to anything ... I was heavily medicated for most of it, and the periods before and after could just be called Before Medication and After Medication. They lack a validity. I graduated secondary school, eventually, and moved onto university.

    I maintain a brazen eccentricity. Although privately I agonize over how others view me, my public showing is one of absolute indifference to society. One day I dress as a boy, another as a girl, another day I mix clothes. The idea of being anything other than ruthlessly candid is, to me, deplorable. Passive-aggressive behavior frustrates me. I often take it upon myself to reveal the deceptions of others. I'm emotionally cold and immeasurably logical. When confronted, I posture defensively by weaving infallible loops of semantics and wordplay around my 'opponents.' I view people around me as opponents. Despite this, I am emotionally sensitive and curious, ... merely unable to interact on that level. I enjoy observing others. I am an emotional vampire. I have sat for hours on end watching people do things as interesting as cross-stitching. I am bemused by people, but I do not feel that I am one.

    I maintain the position of being caught between an intense longing for companionship and the need to be alone, to be safe. I function via oscillations and manipulating the world around me so that our waveforms compliment. Dissonance frustrates me. When posed questions, I instantaneously figure not only the likely outcomes of responses but whether or not the premise is flawed. I very often refuse to answer questions because the premise is flawed, or there is no noticeable difference between possible answers, or because the person is not asking earnestly. I am imaginative and spend the bulk of my time fleshing out imaginary universes. I cannot read books or watch television programmes because I have no interest in the narrative, only the concepts, which I then incorporate myself into.

    I am not sexually motivated. The overwhelming ambiguity and complexity of interpersonal relationships frightens me beyond belief. I do not often see anyone whose personality mirrors my own when the disjunction between my facade and true ego are taken into account. I do not attempt to model myself after anyone else because I earnestly feel that I am utterly Different.

    I consider the internet an extension of my personal reality and live anonymously on it. Because I can easily keep those who try to get too close to me at arm's length, I'm free to be emotionally open online where in reality I become unable to speak, violently ill, or simply catatonic when pressed. Anyone who attempts to become close to me, though -- even those that I myself reached out to -- become victims of my bridge-burning and defensive posturing. I don't like the telephone because it's not the internet, and everyone should have access to the internet.

    I don't wish my personality on anyone ... though admittedly, my personality is unusually dysfunctional. I was actually psychologically evaluated just last night, and after out-of-office pressing by my caretaker this morning they let slip that specifically they feel that I am a schizoid. This seems accurate.

    More than anything, I crave an obviously-impossible emotional rapport which is almost robotic in nature. I want a partner who will hold me, tightly, for just as long as I want and then dissipate into nothing more substantial than a vapor for just as long as I want. The fact that the few things I now want in life are impossible -- a list reduced vastly by trauma, after trauma, after trauma -- leads me to have no motivation. I am indifferent to the point of being, although unfit to take care of myself, also unfit to receive therapeutic or clinical care. I am indifferent to my indifference. I am indifferent, utterly detached, and chronically anxious.

    I think that's everything.

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  • DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Well, I'm kind of having trouble responding to this thead, but I'll give it a shot.

    First of all I'm an INTJ (mastermind) and without boring anyone with too much of the details the idea of always considering options and eventualities, focusing on principles and theories, and being a reluctant but natural leader are all true.

    Also true- I'm sarcastic and generally make quips in groups. (Maybe Spidey is an INTJ.. >.> )

    Probably the most interesting thing I've observed about personalities is the shift my roommate and I made while living with each other. We lived together for about 3 years, and during that time our personalities became more like each other. He is an emotional person and social butterfly, and I'm generally on the other end. By the last year of being roommates and friends, we both took on traits of the other. Predictable, maybe, but it was just kind of cool seeing it in action.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm quiet, reserved when not in comfortable situations, and otherwise prefer to keep to myself, unless someone is actually talking to me in which case I'm fine with carrying on a conversation; if I'm not involved, I just tend not to get involved. Prefer to be self-reliant or work independently rather than work in a group, mostly due to always having to solve my own problems (due to lack of suitable help) growing up. Tend to not like to make decisions that will involve it affecting some other person (deciding on a topic for a group project, giving directions, etc.) because I don't trust myself to not accidentally make a mistake and then let that other person(s) down. This would be one of the main reasons why I don't ever plan on getting a drivers license, even though through the observation and reading on driving/drivers at this point in time I could probably drive just fine. Also, I find I over analyze many situations which can make it hard for me to come to a firm decision, especially if there are some unknowns I'm uncomfortable with. That said, around situations I'm familiar with or with any few people that know me, I tend to come across as friendly, humorous, and otherwise a cheery guy.

    Used to be somewhat more outgoing when I was growing up through elementary and high school, more excited, energetic, or just adventurous. That sort of morphed into my current personality around the end of high school.
    Are you happy with how you are, and what your personality has done for you? Do you want to be someone else, personality-wise? Are you trying to be someone else, and what are you doing if this is the case?

    I think that if I still had some of the characteristics from my childhood in regards to personality, I may find it somewhat easier through my university life, but I don't view that as a possibility that could change, so I find my current personality adequate enough to get by. Not really trying to be anyone, since I really don't think about it unless asked.
    How about on the internet, on the phone, etcetera? Is your personality different here than interacting with people in person?

    I tend to be more open on the internet, but that might have to do with its inherent anonymity and/or growing up with the development of it to the point it's a part of my life and I'm comfortable with the medium. I dread phone calls to people I don't know (calling a company, like Mastercard, for instance to get issues resolved) as I never know what to say. Don't think my personality is that different on these boards than interacting in person, haven't really noticed.
    Do you wish other people were more like you?

    Not in a million years.

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  • wawkinwawkin Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Dynagrip wrote: »
    I'm a Virgo.

    for real

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    When I was 13-14, I was super angsty and had a persecution complex. To be fair, I was "persecuted" to a degree, in the 7th and 8th grades everyone kept spreading rumors that I had a hit list and was going to bring a gun to school, but I brought a lot of this upon myself and loved the attention, and when I say I had a "persecution complex" I mean I wrote horrible poems where I compared myself to Jesus. I dressed in all black and wore t-shirts from Hot Topic and listened to Marilyn Manson and Staind.
    However, around the age of 15 I realized that life is pretty awesome and I was being fucking retarded and Marilyn Manson kind of sucks. Then I had a period where I had a lot of "social anxiety", meaning I was super shy and scared of talking to anybody, like even, say, walking into a store to ask someone for directions would get me all worked up. This made life difficult when I moved to a new town and didn't make any good friends until my senior year of high school.
    Now I'm just an apathetic and emotionally detached slacker. Which I'm pretty content with.

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  • ReznikReznik Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    When I was in elementary school, I was pretty outgoing and cool with everyone. I guess it had to do with the fact that I was with the same group of kids since junior kindergarden, and you just kinda get used to them, and everyone in the class invites the rest of the class to their birthday parties and yadda yadda yadda.

    Then grade 7 hit. New school, a ton of new people. I guess it just kinda shattered that sense of security I had before, because all of a sudden I'm quiet as shit, picking my words carefully, not answering anything in class even though I know the answer because hey, what if I'm wrong, oh shit I'll look stupid.

    That whole paranoid sense of... "man.. what are they thinking I bet they think I'm stupid or annoying and are just hanging out with me out of pity or something" just kinda stuck. Even now, and I'm in freaking college now.

    I'd kill to be back in the place where I was when I was a kid in elementary school. I didn't worry about anything.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I typically vacillate between an ESTJ and an ESTP on the Myers-Briggs, though I lean towards ESTJ more, I think. In elementary & middle school, I used to be hella introverted, and very rage-filled. Kids would make fun of me, and I'd just throw them down on the ground (I only got suspended twice for fighting, though I usually got sent to detention about once a week). I was the second-tallest kid in a K-4 school in 2nd grade, and at no point in my life would anyone have described me as "skinny" or "lanky.". Hell, there were a few times in elementary school when a bunch of kids would get together and all try to tackle me at once; if you've ever tried to fight a dozen midgets, that's about how it goes. They'd win at first, and then I'd just start throwing them off, a couple at a time.

    When I hit high school, this changed, partially because I moved to a bigger school (the local high school combined the three local middle schools), I stopped growing (I was 5'10" in seventh grade, I'm just a smidge under six feet now), and I chilled out a lot. I started hanging out with lots different groups of kids despite being an enormous geek. Then, I started taking speech, which got me into Mock Trial, which helped a lot as far as interaction with other people goes.

    That got me into being a lawyer, so I went to college for Poli Sci, and got involved with a gaming club, which basically caused me to reject all aspects of geek culture as I grew to hate those people and everything they stood for. Now, I'm a bar-hopping social butterfly. I do my best not to mention my geekier hobbies to people I know in real life until I get to know them really well. I tend to have a lot of contempt for socially inept geeks, in spite of the fact that I used to be one. I'm also ridiculously laid-back. Like, it takes an awful lot to rattle me, and I channel my rage into the two places it belongs: the internet, and the road.

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  • muninnmuninn Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    lazy

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  • Xenocide GeekXenocide Geek Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i'm a procrastinator.

    i'll write this post in a few weeks.

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  • [Tycho?][Tycho?] As elusive as doubt Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    The INTP thing seems to describe me fairly well. But in social situations I'm not good at making funny remarks, I tend toward observing others rather than participating in conversation myself. I wouldn't say I prefer to be alone, but I usually have to be pressured to socialize and sometimes outright avoid people because I dont feel like dealing with them. Even when I do hang out with people I'm often very quiet, simply because I dont have anything in particular I want to talk about. Conversations usually involve people telling me things, and me briefly responding, which is fine by me.

    What really struck me was INITPs "are often astounded by the high esteem in which their friends and colleagues hold them." People seem to hold me in very high esteem. People have called me smart my whole life, and I never really figured out how to respond. In highschool I can't think of anyone who didn't like me, even though I was extra-shy back then. I hung out with hippy/alternative/activist types for the most part, but the super hicks and the jocks liked me just fine. People I know apparently say very nice things about me behind my back, things like "I love [Tycho?]", "[Tycho?]'s awesome", or "I'd die for [Tycho?]" (clearly joking, but my longest held friend apparently said this about me). People seem to have an odd... respect for me. As though my opinion matters a lot. I find all of this bizarre, because I dont really think of any people like this, and my quiet, often anti-social tendancies seems to conflict with my (apparent) popularity.

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  • flamebroiledchickenflamebroiledchicken Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    On the Myers Briggs, it looks like I oscillate between ESTP and ISTP, or sometimes I get an F instead of a T.

    These oscillations are the reason I think that test is bullshit, because I'm never locked into only one "personality mode". Sometimes I feel extroverted, and sometimes I feel introverted. Sometimes I feel like going out to a party and sometimes I feel like hanging out by myself. Sometimes I'm very logical and analytical ("Thinking"), and sometimes I'm more artistic and experimental ("Feeling"), it depends on the situation. Sometimes I feel very spontaneous and irrational, and sometimes I like to just stay the course and do things in a familiar way.

    One thing I know for sure is that I tend to be very un-empathetic. There's nothing I hate more than people bitching about their problems, and I have very little sympathy. A friend (ex-girlfriend) of mine recently checked herself into a psychiatric hospital because she felt lonely to the point of being suicidal, and I just basically told her that she was being irrational and I don't want to hear about it. On the one hand I realize that this is kind of an asshole response and I should have more empathy, but I really can't force myself to care about stuff I don't care about.

    Actually, this quote from Clone High sums up my position: "Remember, too much emotion makes Dr. Scudworth uncomfortable....Yeech! Is that WATER leaking out of your FACE?"

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  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    When I was young, I was funny, confident, happy, secure. I grew up in a small town where everyone knew each other or were related to each other (seriously, I've done my mum's family tree).

    Then age 10, we moved to a big city. I stood out cos I talked with a different accent and am disabled - you'd think no-one had ever seen a disabled child before. Then my dad died, and life got seriously crap for quite a while, I became alternately uncommunicative and arrogant. I think I was quite horrid to be around. I had 1 friend, who's family supported me despite how difficult I was. I missed my dad, I still do, 35 years later.

    Then I met my (now) husband. He loved me even though I was horrid to him lots. He loved me better.

    I used to pretend I was confident, the one day, realised I wasn't pretending any more. I believed in me, partly because someone else did.

    I'm now funny, confident, happy, secure. Hmm, full circle. Its amazing what love can do to ease a person. I've also got 2 fantastic children, both of whom I love very much and would like to be more like, in different ways.

    I live in a little charmed bubble, surrounded by people who love and value me, I have more than enough money to live how I choose to live, and am pretty content with my lot.

    I hope that doesn't sound smug, I don't intend it to - I've lived through some pretty difficult situations, and am going through a bit of a hard time now, but I like me. Its easier to be happy with yourself when you have people who care for you, even when things are tough. Its much harder to do that when you feel like you're on your own.

    As I said, I'd like to have some of my children's qualities, I admire them both, they are good people.

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  • NerissaNerissa Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    i'm a procrastinator.

    i'll write this post in a few weeks
    .

    <3

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  • RandomEngyRandomEngy Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Yeah personality tests always struck me as kind of useless. They ask you questions about your personality, then as an "analysis" parrot back out your answers, phrased a bit differently.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2008
    RandomEngy wrote: »
    Yeah personality tests always struck me as kind of useless. They ask you questions about your personality, then as an "analysis" parrot back out your answers, phrased a bit differently.

    They can be useful -- but not the web-based stuff that spouts what sounds like astrology at you.

    No, they're only useful to chart potential personality disorders, and then only when you go through the test with a psychologist to make sure you answer what the question really means and not what you think it means.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm not terribly outgoing when in large crowds or with new people. Around people to whom I've acclimated, I'm talkative and animated. I have a broad vocabulary and I generally don't pay much mind to reining it in, regardless of my target audience (which is why my 3 year old daughter describes her 5 month old brother as "totally cute and docile" at times). I don't speak like Bill Buckley or anything, more like I throw 25 cent words into 2 cent sentences without thinking about it. Most people find it odd; my wife found it endearing. Works for me.

    I'm sarcastic as all fuck, and generally blunt without realizing it. My wife loves to recount the time I told her that I liked laying on her because she was "squishy". I inadvertently insult people often, but they're usually familiar with my lack of mental filter and don't hold a grudge.

    I like to do random math in my head. I'll do things like drive down the road and estimate the natural frequency of my care based on its mass and probably effective spring constant, then figure at what speed the rotating tires would make the car oscillate at that frequency, then drive slowly up to that speed to see if I was close in my guess. I'm a total fucking nerd.

    I'm competitive as hell, not with other people, but with my own notion of what I should be able to achieve. I play Scrabble with my wife all the time (she's one of the few people who can beat me with any regularity). I don't really care if I win or lose, but if my score is below what I feel it should've been, I'm annoyed with myself.

    Also, I talk about my family a lot on account of them being awesome.

    Going by that M-B personality test, I'm either an INTB or INJB or something. Last time the topic came up, I was the same as about 80% of the thread, so whatever that is, it's me.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    INTB isn't a Meyer-Briggs personality type Jeffe.

    EDIT: I went through some aspects of my personality in [chat] recently.

    I am intensely and coldly logical and rational, which leads to my rabid scepticism. Curiously, while I am generally sceptical of the worth or rigour of personality tests, I quite like Meyer Briggs. Probably because I unerringly get INTJ and the nickname "Mastermind" appeals to my vanity.

    MB writeups of INTJs often include asection on the reactions of the other personality types - "Where's the emotion?" is the phrase most often employed. And I get that all the time in relationships. I am apparently utterly emotionless in my affect when having an emotional discussion - I talk about my emotions but do not show them, my attempts to show concern are detached, I am cold and analytical when emotional displays are expected. I often end up coming off extremely blunt, detached and utterly unconcerned with what's going on around me.

    I don't want to repeat all the [chat] thread stuff. Basically, despite that, I'm capable of being charming and presenting myself as emotionally available. Which gets others to feed my ego and then people get hurt. I feel bad about this and am trying to change it.

    EDIT : Also, sometimes I worry I'm on the scale or some sort of narcisitic personality disorder. Which probably means I'm not afflicted by either but still.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I've never taken a Meyer-Briggs personality test. I'll have to do that some day.

    Hmm. I don't often think about my personality, I'll have to ask some friends and stuff and I'll get the results back to you.

    All I know is that despite going to school and getting a' and b's, and working part time and never being late and always getting everything done, and learning bass in my free time I am considered lazy and laid back.

    Go figure.

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  • The Raging PlatypusThe Raging Platypus Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Last time I took that M-B test - many, many moons ago - it had me listed as an ENFP, a description which I found to be scarily accurate. I'm extroverted, easily excitable, and despite an effort in recent years attempting to think through problems in a structured, rational manner, I tend to follow my intuition anyway. I have learned to tone down my exuberance a great deal in professional settings, so much so that new co-workers assume I'm quiet and analytical. That is, until I feel like I've gotten a bead on social dynamics in the office, and then I just push the envelope as far as I think I can go.

    I enjoy public speaking, and usually find myself chosen as de facto MC of large social events. I'm fairly terrible at prepping for speeches and such, but on the flip side, I'm more comfortable going off the cuff.

    One of the biggest changes in my personality occurred when I started educating myself about modern feminism, shell-shocked at how much I resembled the prototypical Nice Guy(tm), and learned ditch all the passive-aggressive entitlement issues that used to hamper me in romantic relationships. I can attribute this change to the discovery of this forum and reading the voices of strident feminists like The Cat and ViolentChemistry, and subsequently stumbling into blogs like Pandagon and Pam's House Blend. (Suddenly reminds me of that "Limed For The Truth" blog ya'all had going for awhile.)

    (Edited for grammar mistakes.)

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    This is like a MySpace survey!

    What are you like?

    I'm like a banana. Yellow-bellied, with a tough shell, but if you peel me away and throw me on the ground, people might slip on me and slip into other people which might cause a human pileup.

    What were you like? Did you used to be markedly different from how you are now, and how did you come to be how you are? I suspect that a lot of answers will revolve around family and close friends. How did they influence you?

    I think I've been like this for forever. I've become crazier and more neurotic as the years have gone on but that's what alcohol does to a brain: the whisky soaks into the medulla oblongata, travels to the cerebellum, and eats your sanity away like Pac-Man at a Vicodin factory.

    Are you happy with how you are, and what your personality has done for you? Do you want to be someone else, personality-wise? Are you trying to be someone else, and what are you doing if this is the case?

    Right this second, yes, but depending on which way I tilt my head (thus altering my brain chemistry) I might not be happy with how I am a second fro- No, I hate this loathesome creature that I am.

    Is there someone or some characteristic you try to model yourself after? An amalgamation, perhaps? What is that paragon like? What is the paragon of how you idealize yourself?

    Buffy the vampire slayer.

    How about on the internet, on the phone, etcetera? Is your personality different here than interacting with people in person?

    I'm docile in person unless enraged. On the internet I am enraged unless I get to know you and then I'm docile. I have opposite default states. But I'm still the same person.

    Do you wish other people were more like you?

    That would make for a very frightening world.

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  • KalkinoKalkino Buttons Londres Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    Apparently I test really well for emotional intelligence - according to all the tests I had to do for grad recruitment a couple of years back. I didn't really pay it much attention at the time but a few months later I worked with a woman who was in my programme and she had nearly no EQ skills and could alienate a group in a matter of minutes where it takes me months of hard work. So maybe there is something in it.

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  • Premier kakosPremier kakos Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited March 2008
    When I took the M-B, I turned out to be INTX, Introverted, iNtuitive, Thinking, eXtreme!!!!!1111.
    I was really just a plain ol' INTP

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  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm pretty fucking awesome.

    Also, modest.

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  • S_SS_S Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    A random test on the intertubes said I'm an INTJ, which looks accurate
    What am I like?
    I avoid talking to people unless I have something to gain from it, and if someone starts talking to me, I generally look for ways to end the conversation quickly without making them hate me unless I have something to gain from talking to them, mostly because I find it a waste of effort. Also, things that I don't care about doing often become mentally impossible to do, while things that I care about/have something to gain from doing can often cause me do things I never imagined doing.

    (general schooling rant inc) elementary school through high school made me want to kill myself because so much of it is a waste of time. Teach me what is useful so I can leave, fuck off with the timesink fluff that I'm going to purge from my memory 5 minutes after it stops being relevant to my ability to gain a piece of paper that says I never need to return to this school. And if I wanted social interaction, I would find social interaction and not some friends of circumstance HOOSHPAW.

    And the only thing that I has changed since I was younger is that I'm less afraid to call people out on how goddamn stupid they are when they do something goddamn stupid, no matter who or how many people are around. I had a teacher in highschool who would spend 10 minutes at the start every class telling everyone a stupid made up story about her life(like how she is hitler's greatx10 grand daughter, or she drove off a 200 foot and survived, or how she saved 5 kids from a burning car wreck(she's 60 years old)). When I was at the high school age I would look annoyed and not say anything, but nowadays I would interrupt her in the middle of her story and tell her to shut her stupid whore mouth and stop wasting time.
    Are you happy with how you are, and what your personality has done for you? Do you want to be someone else, personality-wise? Are you trying to be someone else, and what are you doing if this is the case?

    I'm mostly satisfied, except that it's easy for me to become too obsessed with how perfect or efficient something has to be, and when I can't make something that way, my personality seems to "flip" and I become the complete opposite of everything I've described in this post, but that effect usually wears off after a few days.
    Is there someone or some characteristic you try to model yourself after? An amalgamation, perhaps? What is that paragon like? What is the paragon of how you idealize yourself?

    My favorite types of people are people who somehow inspire conflict or change in other people around them just by being themselves. I want to be like that, ie creating my own cult or starting World War 3 just by stating my honest opinion on something would be radical.
    How about on the internet, on the phone, etcetera? Is your personality different here than interacting with people in person?

    I'm mostly the same on internet, or I might be more abrasive when I think someone is doing something poorly or inefficiently. But I generally avoid posting anywhere unless it might be entertaining somehow(being entertained isn't a waste of time), and 80% of the time I won't answer the phone even if I know who is calling until they leave a message were they explain why they're calling, then if I agree with why they're calling me I'll then call them back.
    Do you wish other people were more like you?

    In work or school places, I wish everyone was like me. People like me want to accomplish something and don't like wasting time or effort, while most other people I deal with make me hate living. In everywhere else I avoid people like myself because we always have to be working towards something, and even I like to waste time once in awhile.

    I'm expecting a gold star or a medal for typing all of that.

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  • CorlisCorlis Registered User regular
    edited March 2008
    I'm lazy to a nearly pathological degree; I'll leave papers to the last minute, miss out on trips to other countries because I don't plan, and not look for a job unless I really need the money. I can put anything off until tomorrow, but tomorrow never comes. This kind of bleeds into my social life too, because interacting with people is a kind of work to me. As a result, I'll put off meeting with friends or trying to find new ones, with the result that I don't really have any close ones nowadays.

    Also, I always feel a little tense and or annoyed around people, even if I know and like them. I think the reason is that I greatly prefer doing things in my own sweet time, and being with people always means that they might say "Oh let's go see a movie!" when I'd rather stay and play pool or something. Oddly enough, if I'm too much on my own I'll get quite lonely and depressed, so I'm not one of those people who could be a hermit out in the woods either.

    I sometimes wonder if my laziness was exacerbated by my OCD, which was pretty bad when I was younger. My GP said she suspects I have ADHD too, which seems like a kind of O_o combination, but I suppose all things are possible.

    My personality hasn't really helped me much in the past; laziness and un-sociability are rarely positive things. A slight bent to perfectionism, a certain tact, and a willingness to listen and think are good though. It'd be nice to get rid of the former two, though laziness may be more of a choice than an attribute. :P

    I'm not sure that I'm trying to be a specific person, but I've always wanted to be the person who people go to for a clear and unbiased second opinion for something, the person who never leads a project himself but is on the credits for a lot of other ones. I don't really have the technical experience in much of anything to be able to do that though (thank you Classical Studies degree!)

    I don't wish other people were more like me in my laziness, as that would be disasterous for the human race. :P I think more people could stand to think things through a second time, but perhaps not the five or 6 extra times that I usually do.

    Also, I did the MB test too, and got back a near ISTP/INTP split. That seems reeeeeeasonably accurate, though I'm amused that they always tell you the good parts of each personality and rarely the bad ones: "The WXYZ personality is cold, calculating, and generally psychopathic. Famous historical WXYZs are Charles Manson, Josef Stalin, and Jack the Ripper..."

    (Umm, the above comes off a little strangely, but I swear I'm not a serial killer! I'm too lazy to buy myself a sniper rifle for one thing)

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