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Wii sports -> Is it just blind luck?
cliffski
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Am I taking wii-sports too seriously? I cant work out how to get balls to go faster in bowling, and aiming my shots in tennis is more luck than judgement. Has anyone managed to 'get' wii sports? or is it just a drunk after the beers game and winning is just more luck than judgement?
Specifically, why is it sometimes easy to curve the ball in bowling, and sometimes it just totally ignores your attempts to curve the controller?
help!
Specifically, why is it sometimes easy to curve the ball in bowling, and sometimes it just totally ignores your attempts to curve the controller?
help!
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I've found it to be rather consistent, actually. I use my real bowling approach and get similar results as I would at the lanes.
I don't know how you're playing it, but if you're sitting, stand up and take full swings, twisting your wrist throughout. If you're trying to quick-wrist-snap, it might be that you're making small mistakes that are amplified by the shorter, faster snap and therefore getting erratic roll.
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Not to brag, but I can do all those things pretty easily. With bowling, twisting your wrist and/or swinging at an angle will spin the ball, while in tennis you can put forward or backward spin by angling your wrist also. Aiming left and right in tennis mostly depends on when you hit it and which direction you're facing.
so the direction of the controller is combined with the timing to choose the ball direction?
Tennis is entirely about timing, nothing more. If you're good, you can make the ball land where you want.
Bowling is all about the overall motion. Whipping the Wii remote will only confuse the game. A smooth, deliberate movement that moves along at a decent speed without going overboard works best. The timing of your release of the B button is key to making the ball land properly and keep its velocity. The spin is determined by the shape of the overall arc that your arm makes in the air. Most people have a natural spin, so it's good to just embrace/correct for that rather than try to improvise, though it is possible.
Swing "normal," and the ball connects when the racket is perfectly straight (3:00). It'll head straight back.
Swing early, and the ball connects when the racket is angled (1:00). It'll aim to the left.
Swing late, and the ball connects when the racket is angled (5:00). It'll aim to the right.
There's also topspin and backspin, which is trickier but definitely possible. Get good enough and you can typically return a serve with enough topspin and at a sharp enough angle that it's impossible for the other player to return it. Our group of friends have dubbed that the Lightning Round, because we shout out "LIGHTNING ROUND" and then all drink.
Wii Spots has incredible, depth and it takes a lot of skill to master. So it's interesting to watch people assume the game is junk. rather than the fact they haven't mastered it yet.
Tennis: The timing of your hit determines it's position. The flick of you wrist as you swing will add spin to the left of right. Both of those together give you lots of options of how to play the ball. Play it to the left but then get it to spin to the right etc. A perfect serve requires a perfect return (which is possible, but harder than a perfect serve) and recreates a 'break their serve' style of game. it's brilliant.
Bowling: Spin on the ball is incredibly precise. I had a natural cross on my swing that it took me a long time to remove. Now I can bowl straight (and my real score has increased too). It's very controllable if you take the time to learn.
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Regardless, Wii Sports is genius for being one of the most accessible pieces of software ever made, and a large chunk of the Wii's success is down to Wii Sports.
I noticed that letting go of the ball high in the swing makes it go very straight because it's going down the lane faster. It helps me get rid of the spin when I don't want it. Letting go earlier gives you much more spin because it has more lane to grip. Good for splits.
I have successfully spun the ball to the right (I'm right handed) by seriously twisting the Wiimote to the right, but I think there is more or less to it than that. Either having it twisted before letting go low or high instead of the actually movement of twisting. I have no idea.
It's hard to figure out games like this because they aren't programmed for real physics.
EDIT: I'm sure there are so many opinions on this, I hate to even try to explain this game because I'm probably wrong.
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You twist and let go.
Not trying to sound like an arrogant "I'm best at games spod" by the way. It's just that I lived in a house of 6 (with 3 regular partners visiting making 9) who between us put maybe 12 hours a week into Wii Sports for 12 months. So I've a lot of opnions from very experienced players.
I was one of the worst players by far.
The massive, massive misinterpretation of Wii Sports in "our" media frustrates me no end.
It's without a doubt truely a 10/10 game. And easily the most important game since Space War*.
* Or what ever you consider the first ever game to be.
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I can aim my shots perfectly.
I can get them to be low, over-the-net bullet shots, or I can lob them to the right place. I sometimes will put spin on the ball to trick their back player's expectation. I often set up shots by placing the opponents' position with one shot, then aiming in to the forthcoming open areas on the court right after.
There's a lot of good stuff going on in Wii Tennis that people don't know about.
Mostly how to do lobs rather than straight shots and how to put spin on the ball (to get a curved shot). The aim is all about timing. The Power Serves are all about hitting the ball at the peak of the toss.
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I thought of that too, but OP basically said: "I'm having trouble with this game. Is is me or the game?", whereupon a mixture of Americans and Europeans (and maybe others?) all came together to unanimously declare: "It's you."
True, but it takes so much skill to win using them that I wouldn't exactly call it broken. It would be like calling chess broken because there are game states you cannot come back from.
Or actual tennis, for that matter.
It's way worse than you think. I've had games with my brother where we've both made perfect returns on nearly all serves (including the fast serves), and it's really lame that who wins the game is determined by who screws up the perfect return the most. We had very, very few actual volleys.
I'd rather just not do the crazy serves/returns if it means it's going to be more fun with whoever I'm playing with (usually my wife).
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Yeah, totally agree. We stopped playing that way after a few games because it was dead boring. :P
But I still feel the game is a little broken because of it. Still fun though.
Sega Superstars Tennis
or
Top Spin 3
Turn out to be really great Wii tennis games, to finally topple Wii Sports Tennis as the best and most addicting tennis game on the system.
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My wife has perfected a technique which I call "The Hamburgler" where she just wails it straight and high down the middle for good results.
Here is a video of a machine built out of legos getting a 300 on it
hey hey.. don't give her too much credit, while it is her technique I'm the one who named it (to her annoyance). She's also known to rock out on some Rockband as well. but yes bless the wii for getting wives into games!!
and that robot is awesome.
AHA. I shall investigate this
I agree. The boxing is so far removed from real boxing there almost no comparison.
Awesome!
Even then, once you figure out how to curve, it's still retardedly easy.
I actually never do it straight, I always go over to almost the far right, and put a curve on it and I get a strike almost every time (spare if I dont)
Boxing is cool, but the hooks and what not seems really borked.
I cannot seem to do the baseball at all, but I am pretty sure it is just me and not the game.
Golf is easy, and my dad is a master at tennis with 2800 rating I think
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