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The title's a bit misleading, as I don't really know what to call these games! But basically I'm talking about those types of Real-time strategy game where you don't directly control your troops/units/sims, but there is some form of combat. I think the most popular example of this kind of game is Black and White 1, B&W 2 changed things a bit, as you could directly control troops.
But whatever happened to games like Startopia and Dungeon Keeper? The last type of game like this that I can think of is the fantastic Evil Genius, but that was the last one I know of, and it's from 2004.
Does anyone know of any games like these that I might not have heard of, or are coming out in the future?
Well spore is all well and good, and I AM excited for it, but that sort of floats between genres, as you do have direct control over a unit/creature. If you ever played any of the games I listed above you know what I mean.
In dungeon keeper you mark a room for digging and your imps go and dig it out. You mark a room for play/building and your imps go build it, and your goblins will play in it, or sleep in their dens, and whatnot. But when the enemy breaks through into your dungeon, you can't just gather up all your units and control them RTS style and wipe out your enemies. Instead you can give out a general rally order, or just hope that your guys find their guys and engage in battle.
It's difficult to explain if you haven't played it
Only barely related to the actual topic, but... Startopia is pretty awesome, isn't it? Probably my favourite of the genre.
Startopia IS awesome, we moved into a new place January, and I'm still unpacking, and I got around to some last night and I found my Startopia CD and that's why this topic exists.
Yeah, I have Evil Genius, it's in my OP. That game is fantastic, I still play it often, I was hoping for an evil genius 2 but the company that made evil genius, Elixer, closed in 2005. The IP's been bought since then, but nothing's been done with it.
Thank you, sir. I looked into it, and it's scheduled for a 2009 release. I never played the original majesty though, but it sounds like it fits!
The original Majesty is on Goozex for 100pts so you can get it for free just by signing up.
If you do sign up, please use my referral link? (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/join.asp?idr=567215202662) It'll get us both an extra 100pts when you finish your first trade. You may even end up getting my copy of Majesty, but I dunno if any of the other offers are ahead of me.
I always thought Populous for PSX was pretty great. I mean, sometimes it frustrated the crap out of me... Maybe i just really, really wanted to like it.
Man, I just don't know. It's not quite all that bad, but it's eh, it's like they could have used more polish on it. It's just that I have asshole sims who go rogue and stay that way and ruin my income and then eh...
Not to mention it has far less ability to muck with things. SC4 had sliders and such to streamline your economy to make it healthy and green. Instead of expanding and polishing that, SCS is just "Okay, this building cost 4 society points and $5,000 dollars. It provides housing for 40 sims. Do you want to build? y/n?"
I don't understand what Sim City Societies is supposed to be. I've read reviews and I just come away confused. I might buy the sim city box that comes out in a few months. It's got like simcity/2000/3/simcity 4. Sim city societies, and the expansion for societies, plus the character creator for spore (the box might not have all those things, I forget the specifics).
I think that the character creator for spore is just a way for the spore servers to stockpile creatures for their 'cross pollination' feature before the game comes out.
I don't really think of simcity as being part of this genre though, although I did enjoy 4 a helluva lot, and now I probably have to play it...
The god-game genre seems to have gone the way of turn based strategy and flight sims.
If they get rid of RTS games, I'll be free of my PC forever at this rate.
That said, I did love Dungeon Keeper. So many great touches to it and the sequel.
The god-game genre seems to have gone the way of turn based strategy and flight sims.
If they get rid of RTS games, I'll be free of my PC forever at this rate.
That said, I did love Dungeon Keeper. So many great touches to it and the sequel.
I found dungeon keeper 2 and 1 in a bundled pack for 5 dollars on one of those rotating displays at a local radio shack a few years ago. It was a a glorious find, I played the hell out of Dungeon Keeper 2.
Was that the one where you have to push the block and avoid the slave master and his whip?
No it was the one where you devote half of your entire city to storage yards to store all the extra flax you're producing because you went a little overboard with setting up efficient farming land.
God I love that game. The chinese themed version and the new Caesar never really grabbed me as much as pharaoh did.
Turn Based strategy is alive and well, the civilization games are still huge and being released, and you can't throw a stone on a handheld without hitting 3 or 4.
Oh Sim City 2000, that game, Zeus and Civ II pretty much defined my childhood. I actually learned hundreds of words from Civ II.
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Turn Based strategy is alive and well, the civilization games are still huge and being released, and you can't throw a stone on a handheld without hitting 3 or 4.
Oh Sim City 2000, that game, Zeus and Civ II pretty much defined my childhood. I actually learned hundreds of words from Civ II.
No doubt, but those aren't really the kind of games I'm talking about. They're related, so it makes sense that the conversation turned in that direction.
Was that the one where you have to push the block and avoid the slave master and his whip?
No it was the one where you devote half of your entire city to storage yards to store all the extra flax you're producing because you went a little overboard with setting up efficient farming land.
God I love that game. The chinese themed version and the new Caesar never really grabbed me as much as pharaoh did.
There is no such thing as too much food.
On a related note, I've recently been playing Ceasar III. Setting things up to get that perfect neighbourhood never gets old.
Same here, except with Civ I. I am probably one of the few people whose first foreign word was 'Pottery'. Quickly followed by 'Granary', 'Bronze Working' and 'The Alphabet'.
Did I ever tell the story of my high school friend who got onto a history degree at leeds by playing nothing but civ3 for like 4 years. Cause its totally true.
Did I ever tell the story of my high school friend who got onto a history degree at leeds by playing nothing but civ3 for like 4 years. Cause its totally true.
I guess this is one step further to show that video games don't rot your brain.
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Spore.
In dungeon keeper you mark a room for digging and your imps go and dig it out. You mark a room for play/building and your imps go build it, and your goblins will play in it, or sleep in their dens, and whatnot. But when the enemy breaks through into your dungeon, you can't just gather up all your units and control them RTS style and wipe out your enemies. Instead you can give out a general rally order, or just hope that your guys find their guys and engage in battle.
It's difficult to explain if you haven't played it
Like Pharaoh. That was so fucking great.
Startopia IS awesome, we moved into a new place January, and I'm still unpacking, and I got around to some last night and I found my Startopia CD and that's why this topic exists.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
Thank you, sir. I looked into it, and it's scheduled for a 2009 release. I never played the original majesty though, but it sounds like it fits!
Non-edit-edit: This 150sec wait time between posts is KILLING ME.
The original Majesty is on Goozex for 100pts so you can get it for free just by signing up.
If you do sign up, please use my referral link? (http://www.goozex.com/trading/asp/join.asp?idr=567215202662) It'll get us both an extra 100pts when you finish your first trade. You may even end up getting my copy of Majesty, but I dunno if any of the other offers are ahead of me.
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Man, I just don't know. It's not quite all that bad, but it's eh, it's like they could have used more polish on it. It's just that I have asshole sims who go rogue and stay that way and ruin my income and then eh...
Not to mention it has far less ability to muck with things. SC4 had sliders and such to streamline your economy to make it healthy and green. Instead of expanding and polishing that, SCS is just "Okay, this building cost 4 society points and $5,000 dollars. It provides housing for 40 sims. Do you want to build? y/n?"
I think that the character creator for spore is just a way for the spore servers to stockpile creatures for their 'cross pollination' feature before the game comes out.
I don't really think of simcity as being part of this genre though, although I did enjoy 4 a helluva lot, and now I probably have to play it...
If they get rid of RTS games, I'll be free of my PC forever at this rate.
That said, I did love Dungeon Keeper. So many great touches to it and the sequel.
I found dungeon keeper 2 and 1 in a bundled pack for 5 dollars on one of those rotating displays at a local radio shack a few years ago. It was a a glorious find, I played the hell out of Dungeon Keeper 2.
Was that the one where you have to push the block and avoid the slave master and his whip?
God I love that game. The chinese themed version and the new Caesar never really grabbed me as much as pharaoh did.
Oh Sim City 2000, that game, Zeus and Civ II pretty much defined my childhood. I actually learned hundreds of words from Civ II.
I haven't actually played it either, but it's sounding something like Sim Town 2.
No doubt, but those aren't really the kind of games I'm talking about. They're related, so it makes sense that the conversation turned in that direction.
The black hole of suck that was Black and White and Populous III pretty much killed it.
There is no such thing as too much food.
On a related note, I've recently been playing Ceasar III. Setting things up to get that perfect neighbourhood never gets old.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demigod_%28video_game%29
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I've never heard of it, however, I don't own a wii
Some kind of town-building game where you play a little king and must build up a nation.
There actually two such games in development for the Wii, but Project O looks like the good one.
I guess what I'm waiting for is Viva Pinata 2: The Bloodening.
The DK3 drawings always make me sad so much potential.
I guess this is one step further to show that video games don't rot your brain.