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Replacing a busted DS.

Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
edited May 2008 in Games and Technology
I've been rocking my DS Lite with two (two!) cracked hinges for about a month, just debating whether it's worth trying to get it repaired through Nintendo. And now I just lost my last stylus, so I think it's time to take the plunge.

The thing is well out of warranty. How much will it cost me to get it repaired? I don't suppose there's any chance they'll send me a refurbished one in exchange, for free, because of the hinge cracks? :P

(and yeah, I googled this. All the articles were two years old or so.)

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Captain K wrote: »
    I've been rocking my DS Lite with two (two!) cracked hinges for about a month, just debating whether it's worth trying to get it repaired through Nintendo. And now I just lost my last stylus, so I think it's time to take the plunge.

    The thing is well out of warranty. How much will it cost me to get it repaired? I don't suppose there's any chance they'll send me a refurbished one in exchange, for free, because of the hinge cracks? :P

    (and yeah, I googled this. All the articles were two years old or so.)

    They aren't very friendly on out of warranty hinge crack replacements anymore. I know they used to do it for systems just a few months out for free.

    I think its something like 60-80 bucks. Not worth it for an old model DS but not a bad deal for a DSL.

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  • Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'm also thinking about just getting a new one while I wait for them to repair the one I already have, then reselling the repaired one when I get it back. I'm trying to do the math on how much that would put me out.

    The main thing is, broken hinges or no, I still play my DS every single day. Don't want to go without one for 3-4 weeks or however long that would be. :P

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  • scootchscootch Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    just wait until it completly breaks off before spending any money on it.
    no need to spend more $$ right now, right?

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  • LemmingLemming Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Captain K wrote: »
    I'm also thinking about just getting a new one while I wait for them to repair the one I already have, then reselling the repaired one when I get it back. I'm trying to do the math on how much that would put me out.

    The main thing is, broken hinges or no, I still play my DS every single day. Don't want to go without one for 3-4 weeks or however long that would be. :P

    I remember some people talking about something where you could call them up and they would send you a new DS, and you would send your old one back. I'm not sure if they still do or ever did it, but it couldn't hurt to call up and ask.

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  • KimFidlerKimFidler Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Whoever believes that they'd take out the GBA slot is fucking stupid. Never listen to someone who thinks that.

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  • AselithAselith Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Wouldn't that be a lesser product? Not like the DS light is some land monster already and you give up the ability to play GBA cartridges.

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  • admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Honestly, the DSL is such a sexy piece of hardware already that I really don't think they could improve it so much as to make giving up the GBA slot worth it.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Moreover, the GBA's processor is one of the things used to power the second screen so you'd gain basically nothing taking that slot out.

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  • greeblegreeble Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    admanb wrote: »
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Honestly, the DSL is such a sexy piece of hardware already that I really don't think they could improve it so much as to make giving up the GBA slot worth it.

    They could improve the d-pad or buttons. I never really liked them on the DS. (Still light years better than the d-pad on the ds phat though)

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  • MgsleeMgslee United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Its normally $75 for out of warranty replacements, well it was last time I went to the customer service department. YMMV based on the problem of course.

    I've replaced a hinge busted (like split in 2) DSL and another that stopped booting completely. They were my cousin's systems but I live in Redmond.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I wonder if you could find a replacement case if you are willing to try to do it yourself. Might be a headache but might be worth it if it isn't that expensive.

    http://www.nds-central.com/market.htm

    Oh my... magnum gold? DO WANT! I might not be able to turn that down. hmm.. If I bought the magnum gold, that would mean I would have a spare black DSL case around.

    *edit*

    I am unable to resist this. I passed on that golden zelda DS during chrismas because I didn't want to take someones chrismas gift. Captian K, I may or may not be up to this case mod. If I am and you want to work something out if I am after the magnum gold swap, Let me know.

    *double edit*

    FUCK... They can't take my order. Seems that recipient is unable to accept money.

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    admanb wrote: »
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Honestly, the DSL is such a sexy piece of hardware already that I really don't think they could improve it so much as to make giving up the GBA slot worth it.

    They could replace the GBA slot with some sort of micro SD or flash memory unit allowing you to save all of your DS games onto one card.

    Then they could sell some sort of equipment that allows you to get your GBA games on there too.

    And while were at this they might as well rip off Sony and allow you to transfer all your VC games onto your DS and throw in some form of download play.


    Worth it? I think so

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  • The SenderThe Sender Registered User new member
    edited May 2008
    OP, I'm in the same situation as you. I have a black DS with two cracked hinges.

    I looked into shell replacement, but it turns out that the third party shells aren't up to the same quality standards as the original product. This would only be a concern if you wanted a glossed shell. You want a transparent, matte or MAGNUM GOLD shell? Go nuts, yo.

    I decided that it's not a serious problem and I'm holding off should a more serious issue arise. The only real trouble is it can't even support it's own lid and from the outside, it is an ugly, ugly monster. :(

    Alas, I sit at my desk atop which rests a DS with shattered kneecaps and ruined dreams.
    Sparrow wrote: »
    Worth it? I think so

    Oh man I need a time machine already thanks to this possible impending news and GTA IV for PC. God damnit, where are you Doc Brown?!

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The Sender wrote: »
    Oh man I need a time machine already thanks to this possible impending news and GTA IV for PC. God damnit, where are you Doc Brown?!
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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Sparrow wrote: »
    admanb wrote: »
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Honestly, the DSL is such a sexy piece of hardware already that I really don't think they could improve it so much as to make giving up the GBA slot worth it.

    They could replace the GBA slot with some sort of micro SD or flash memory unit allowing you to save all of your DS games onto one card.

    Then they could sell some sort of equipment that allows you to get your GBA games on there too.

    And while were at this they might as well rip off Sony and allow you to transfer all your VC games onto your DS and throw in some form of download play.


    Worth it? I think so

    never gonna happen.

    1) Nintendo allow you to copy DS cards? Are you serious? "Hey, lemme just copy this game to my MicroSD card, okay, yes, I'd like to trade in this brand-new-ish DS game?"

    2) GBA games running from a MicroSD card moves out of "unlikely" and into "impossible". GBA games are on ROM chips which can be addressed as fast as the system RAM. NAND flash cannot. NORflash maybe, but that would be too large and expensive for what you want.

    3) VC games on the DS? First, the DS's screens aren't at a large enough resolution to properly display a console game. You need 320x240 and only have 256x192. Second, there's the issue of processing power. The DS can comfortably emulate NES and SMS games, and just barely has the power for some Genesis, SNES, and Neo-Geo games, but not all (ones that have special chips on the cartridge or use some little-used effects will have serious trouble). Forget about N64 games entirely.

    So, no. What you're waiting for ain't never gonna happen. I'm sorry.

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  • RonenRonen Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Forget about N64 games entirely.


    Erm... Super Mario 64? The DS version looks better than the original, and that was a launch title. Of course, that's not emulation since they rewrote the game to work on the system, but if Nintendo wanted to, something tells me they could get decent emulation performance out of it.

    Edit: and I think the "VC titles on the DS" most people refer to GB/GBC/GBA games, not console games.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Ronen wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Forget about N64 games entirely.


    Erm... Super Mario 64? The DS version looks better than the original, and that was a launch title. Of course, that's not emulation since they rewrote the game to work on the system, but if Nintendo wanted to, something tells me they could get decent emulation performance out of it.

    They completely rewrote the game code for that, only re-using (some) art assets from the original. An N64 emulator on the DS is not remotely feasable. The N64 is actually a bit faster than the DS when both are running native code.
    Edit: and I think the "VC titles on the DS" most people refer to GB/GBC/GBA games, not console games.

    GB/GBC stuff would be doable, GBA would not. You can't run GBA code natively from Slot 1 and you can't run it from Slot 2 without something that has fast access (RAM, NORflash, etc). And a GBA emulator in DS mode is unfeasible because the DS doesn't have a MMU.

    Trust me, the homebrew community has a pretty good grasp on what the DS hardware can and can't do.

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Ronen wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Forget about N64 games entirely.


    Erm... Super Mario 64? The DS version looks better than the original, and that was a launch title. Of course, that's not emulation since they rewrote the game to work on the system, but if Nintendo wanted to, something tells me they could get decent emulation performance out of it.

    They completely rewrote the game code for that, only re-using (some) art assets from the original. An N64 emulator on the DS is not remotely feasable. The N64 is actually a bit faster than the DS when both are running native code.
    Edit: and I think the "VC titles on the DS" most people refer to GB/GBC/GBA games, not console games.

    GB/GBC stuff would be doable, GBA would not. You can't run GBA code natively from Slot 1 and you can't run it from Slot 2 without something that has fast access (RAM, NORflash, etc). And a GBA emulator in DS mode is unfeasible because the DS doesn't have a MMU.

    Trust me, the homebrew community has a pretty good grasp on what the DS hardware can and can't do.

    While I agree with you that you currently can't run GBA code natively from Slot 1, that doesn't mean that GBA games on the VC setup wouldn't be possible. The conversion of GBA code to DS code is likely insanely easy (look at how many DS games at launch were GBA games with the second screen only really utilized for minigames or quick buttons for powerups) - so it would seem very likely that Nintendo could run a quick conversion to make it possible.

    N64 is definately impossible though as emulation.

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  • SparrowSparrow Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    never gonna happen.

    Technical Proof

    So, no. What you're waiting for ain't never gonna happen. I'm sorry.

    Way to kill the dream.

    Well I can still wish for Nintendo to allow people to purchase and then download games into a micro SD card.

    Right? Right?

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  • sir_pinch-a-loafsir_pinch-a-loaf #YODORegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The GBA slot will never be removed, and this is another reason:

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Sparrow wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    never gonna happen.

    Technical Proof

    So, no. What you're waiting for ain't never gonna happen. I'm sorry.

    Way to kill the dream.

    Well I can still wish for Nintendo to allow people to purchase and then download games into a micro SD card.

    Right? Right?

    You can do that shit right now, with the right hardware, and I'm fairly certain it's legal if you own the games and you do the copying yourself and you delete the games if you sell off the originals, but Nintendo themselves will never ever ever endorse or license such a thing.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Herby wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Ronen wrote: »
    Daedalus wrote: »
    Forget about N64 games entirely.


    Erm... Super Mario 64? The DS version looks better than the original, and that was a launch title. Of course, that's not emulation since they rewrote the game to work on the system, but if Nintendo wanted to, something tells me they could get decent emulation performance out of it.

    They completely rewrote the game code for that, only re-using (some) art assets from the original. An N64 emulator on the DS is not remotely feasable. The N64 is actually a bit faster than the DS when both are running native code.
    Edit: and I think the "VC titles on the DS" most people refer to GB/GBC/GBA games, not console games.

    GB/GBC stuff would be doable, GBA would not. You can't run GBA code natively from Slot 1 and you can't run it from Slot 2 without something that has fast access (RAM, NORflash, etc). And a GBA emulator in DS mode is unfeasible because the DS doesn't have a MMU.

    Trust me, the homebrew community has a pretty good grasp on what the DS hardware can and can't do.

    While I agree with you that you currently can't run GBA code natively from Slot 1, that doesn't mean that GBA games on the VC setup wouldn't be possible. The conversion of GBA code to DS code is likely insanely easy (look at how many DS games at launch were GBA games with the second screen only really utilized for minigames or quick buttons for powerups) - so it would seem very likely that Nintendo could run a quick conversion to make it possible.

    That's a good point. With the source code, you can convert a GBA game to a DS game with a few hours of coding and a recompile. Of course, that wouldn't work for games that Nintendo doesn't have the source to. Does Nintendo demand archival source code for third party games as part of the terms of licensing? I'm not sure.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    The Sender wrote: »
    OP, I'm in the same situation as you. I have a black DS with two cracked hinges.

    I looked into shell replacement, but it turns out that the third party shells aren't up to the same quality standards as the original product. This would only be a concern if you wanted a glossed shell. You want a transparent, matte or MAGNUM GOLD shell? Go nuts, yo.

    I decided that it's not a serious problem and I'm holding off should a more serious issue arise. The only real trouble is it can't even support it's own lid and from the outside, it is an ugly, ugly monster. :(

    where are those reviews that they are not up to par with the standard cases? I just want to know what I'm getting myself into.

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  • The Reverend Dr GalactusThe Reverend Dr Galactus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Aselith wrote: »
    KimFidler wrote: »
    I'd hold off on buying a new one right away. I can guarantee something is going to be announced really soon on the redesign. Slimmer, but no GBA slot. So the rumors are saying. ;)

    Wouldn't that be a lesser product? Not like the DS light is some land monster already and you give up the ability to play GBA cartridges.

    While at this point it would be completely un-Nintendo to give up any sort of backward-compatibility on the DS, this is what I could see them doing to further slim the DS (though I also agree I personally have little need of a slimmer form factor):

    Strip the big ol' GBA slot down to a little port onto which you can connect a GBA adaptor sleeve for the occasional Tetris bender or Crystal Chronicles party. So it's still there if you need it, but that means less empty volume inside the chassis.

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  • AggrilAggril Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Having just got off the phone with the nice tech folks at Nintendo (my DS slipped out of my hands and cracked the right hinge completely OFF D: ) I can confirm they're not giving out replacements quite as easily. Interestingly though they are selling refurbished units at just a little more than the cost of repairing the original DS, and those apparently are covered with a year warranty as well. Not sure if the repair grants a new warranty or not, however.

    And of course they'll eventually put out a new Gameboy. How many improvements have they added to gameboys over the past few years? Though outside of the port for a 'card sleeve' for GBA games, I don't know how they'd slim down the Lite any further.

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  • KimFidlerKimFidler Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah it seems that if there is a redesign it won't likely take away the GBA slot. Considering Nintendo has decided to partner with Activision for the Guitar Hero DS Bundle, we may see something slimmer with a GBA slot. If Nintendo continues being Nintendo, there will be a redesign this year.

    Also with the inclusion of the Nintendo channel on Wii, don't be surprised if Nintendo comes up with something to bring GBA games over to the DS.

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  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    how would one aquire said refurbished units? i have been thinking about picking up a DS

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Aggril wrote: »
    Having just got off the phone with the nice tech folks at Nintendo (my DS slipped out of my hands and cracked the right hinge completely OFF D: ) I can confirm they're not giving out replacements quite as easily. Interestingly though they are selling refurbished units at just a little more than the cost of repairing the original DS, and those apparently are covered with a year warranty as well. Not sure if the repair grants a new warranty or not, however.

    Nintendo repairs grant a new 1-year warranty, whether it's a paid repair or a freebie.

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Aggril wrote: »
    Having just got off the phone with the nice tech folks at Nintendo (my DS slipped out of my hands and cracked the right hinge completely OFF D: ) I can confirm they're not giving out replacements quite as easily. Interestingly though they are selling refurbished units at just a little more than the cost of repairing the original DS, and those apparently are covered with a year warranty as well. Not sure if the repair grants a new warranty or not, however.

    And of course they'll eventually put out a new Gameboy. How many improvements have they added to gameboys over the past few years? Though outside of the port for a 'card sleeve' for GBA games, I don't know how they'd slim down the Lite any further.

    Do you have a link for this on their site? Thanks.

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  • troublebrewingtroublebrewing Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Aggril wrote: »
    Having just got off the phone with the nice tech folks at Nintendo (my DS slipped out of my hands and cracked the right hinge completely OFF D: ) I can confirm they're not giving out replacements quite as easily. Interestingly though they are selling refurbished units at just a little more than the cost of repairing the original DS, and those apparently are covered with a year warranty as well. Not sure if the repair grants a new warranty or not, however.

    And of course they'll eventually put out a new Gameboy. How many improvements have they added to gameboys over the past few years? Though outside of the port for a 'card sleeve' for GBA games, I don't know how they'd slim down the Lite any further.

    Do you have a link for this on their site? Thanks.

    here's the official nintendo warranty page if that is what you are looking for

    http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/manuals/warrantyinfo.jsp

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  • ViscountalphaViscountalpha The pen is mightier than the sword http://youtu.be/G_sBOsh-vyIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Aggril wrote: »
    Having just got off the phone with the nice tech folks at Nintendo (my DS slipped out of my hands and cracked the right hinge completely OFF D: ) I can confirm they're not giving out replacements quite as easily. Interestingly though they are selling refurbished units at just a little more than the cost of repairing the original DS, and those apparently are covered with a year warranty as well. Not sure if the repair grants a new warranty or not, however.

    And of course they'll eventually put out a new Gameboy. How many improvements have they added to gameboys over the past few years? Though outside of the port for a 'card sleeve' for GBA games, I don't know how they'd slim down the Lite any further.

    Do you have a link for this on their site? Thanks.

    here's the official nintendo warranty page if that is what you are looking for

    http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/manuals/warrantyinfo.jsp

    I should of been more specific. I was curious where it said official refurbished DS are being sold at. I'm just curious how they stack up.

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  • MgsleeMgslee United StatesRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I've gotten a Refurb DS straight from Nintendo before. Couldn't even tell it was a refurb it was in that good of condition

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