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Bathroom "stage fright"

blue powderblue powder Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I seem to have an odd problem when it comes to urinating in public places, especially clubs/bars/parties etc. And it's not only when I'm drinking, it's also in like park rest rooms. It seems to occur when I think someone is waiting for me and they have the mentality that I'm taking too long.

For example when in a club jsut the other week I needed to urinate, so I went to the bathroom (I simply cannot use urinals as the pressure is too great) and there is only ever one cubicle, so I used that but because there is a line of people I couldn't do it, I'd just fucking stand there, and I'd have to wak out without going and this would become discomforting after a while so I'll keep going back and wait till it's empty.

When there are more than one cubicle I'm okay becuase I know no one will be waiting solely on me... So iI'm convinced this is entirely mental, does anyone else experience this, or have they and managed to overcome it? I feel it's something I should really overcome. A little bit embarassing, but thanks for any advice in advance.

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  • Durandal InfinityDurandal Infinity Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I can't say I have your problem, I am used to going hands free in our school's troughs they call a mens restroom but I think the situation itself takes control of you. I mean in your mind I assume you are thinking "come on, come on" but all you have to do is just breathe deep and close your eyes. If that only helps a little, just imagine an insecure guy in the bathroom with you who is packing nothing.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Think about what the other guy a few stalls away from you really is thinking. Is he really interested in what the hell you're doing? Does he want to know you're taking a shit? No, probably not. Most people are there to do one thing and get the fuck out. You shouldn't dwell so much it because you're going to hurt your bladder with this stop/go mentality whenever you go into a restroom with other people.

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  • RaereRaere Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    It's called shy bladder, and it's more common than you think. You can probably get suggestions on any medical website. The wikipedia article lists some helpful suggestions.

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  • bsjezzbsjezz Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    this was just brought up in a social entropy thread and everyone ignored me then so maybe you can get some use out of my wise and learned posting
    bsjezz wrote: »
    see i had this problem when i was younger and i'm sure lots of guys do but you can trick yourself out of it

    it's just nervousness, and concern about how you're being percieved by other men there

    it helps to go to the urinal whenever there's nobody around, and there's nobody likely to arrive. then you can just relax and you'll pee freely, and get used to it and not be so embarrased when there are other guys

    a couple of other things; think about something specific to take your mind off it. i think about food. if i think about a hamburger and how awesome it would be to eat and how great it'll be to go get food at a restaurant somewhere it'll usually loosen things up

    also, if you've got time to kill, think about how it's actually better if it takes longer to piss. i usually go to the bathroom at the same time as my girlfriend when we're out and if i think "you know the longer this takes, the less time i have to sit around waiting for her to be done. if it takes really long, maybe she'll be waiting for me! awesome."

    sounds stupid, but by using those tricks these days i'm able to whip it out next to anyone and rub shoulders while i piss.

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  • Buddy LeeBuddy Lee Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Whenever I have this problem (and it doesn't happen very often, but occasionally it does), all that I do is just relax and think about gravity. It helps to breathe deep. Sometimes I think about a funny joke or skit or something to get my mind on something else.

    Once it starts to flow, I'm in the clear. Sometimes getting things moving is a bit tough, though.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    i think the universal solution is that you have to take your mind off it

    i used to have a pretty severe case of it

    in order to distract myself i once dropped my bus pass behind the toilet and imagined a scenario in which the bus pass was irretrievable, or horribly wet with horrible substances, or somehow fell down a crack, or whatever, and basically it pulled my attention away from the incredible over-enhanced awareness of my muscles unable to relax, and into a larger, more important "problem" that i had constructed

    other times i would imagine an essay i had due the next day, or that i left my wallet on the table and someone was going to steal my credit card or something

    anything to pull you out of your ultra-awareness of your own physicality that tenses you up imperceptibly.

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  • oldsakoldsak Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    If it is a crowded bathroom, someone will likely be washing his hands (if no one is, that's just nasty). Focus on the sound of the running water, relax, and just let the urine flow. If it's not that crowded, just turn on a faucet before you go.

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  • pinenut_canarypinenut_canary Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I had a similar problem. Around friends and family, I have no problem farting. I'll let go when I'm at a park or grocery store, but other more "classy" places I don't.

    But when I have to take a crap, I loathe farting. I mean, the bathroom stall is probably one of the most acceptable places to toot, but I just can't do it. I wait until everyone's gone or until something loud is happening, like a flushing toilet or a loud hand dryer.

    I figured that I got this because when I was younger, I went to a private school, and it was really small, so there was one bathroom for my class, just a single toilet, faucet, etc. After I take a shit, the next person would complain loudly about the smell when going in, and then announce it after they got done. It was really embarrassing for me, especially when it was a girl.

    But then I said to myself those people can shove it and stick their noses up my ass, because if I have to take a shit comfortably, nothing is going to stop me, because honestly, shitting/pissing feels so good. And it doesn't matter if I fart or not, because shit will smell like shit. I figured that shitting/pissing could be an opportunity to relieve myself both physically and mentally. I'd just sit/stand and enjoy the moment, think about nothing but how relaxing this moment is. After I figured that out, I farted in the restroom as much as I wanted while taking a crap, and no one complained. I even got some compliments.

    Also, you could man up and just do what you gotta do. Because relieving yourself is a very important bodily function, and it could be really uncomfortable holding it in, and even dangerous. Sometimes people would stare at me if I just grab my little sister (I would be around 18, she'd be around 12), and take her to the men's bathroom, because when she has to go tinkle, she has to go tinkle. If people actually bitch at you if you "take a long time", which you probably don't, because you're just taking a piss, then they're either retarded and should be ignored, or they really have to go. If they really do have to go, hurry up as much as possible, but finish. It's not your fault they have to go so bad. I just tell them "Seriously, are you going to start a fight over going to the bathroom? It's pretty stupid."

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  • Ado-sanAdo-san Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeh I used to get it as well. I've gradually overcome it (can't even remember the last time it happened) so I don't think it's anything to worry about. For me it was just about relaxing and thinking of other things. And trying to not be concerned with other people when I'm 'tryin' to get my pee on'.

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  • OhioOhio Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I just grab my little sister (I would be around 18, she'd be around 12), and take her to the men's bathroom, because when she has to go tinkle, she has to go tinkle.

    ....what?

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Ohio wrote: »
    I just grab my little sister (I would be around 18, she'd be around 12), and take her to the men's bathroom, because when she has to go tinkle, she has to go tinkle.

    ....what?

    Seconded... o_O

    But as far as the OP goes this is the same as any problem with your penis, anxiety makes it stop working completly so just don't think about it so much. I know saying that is crappy advicxe but it is literally the only thing that will work.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I had this problem pretty badly a few years ago, mostly when I was at bars, really had to go, and the bathroom was busy. And when you really have to go, it sucks to not be able to.

    For me, the solution was to simply leave, go back in 10 minutes, and go into a stall and sit down. It's a little embarrassing the first time or two, but it's much easier to urinate when you're sitting. Oddly enough this has helped my generally shy bladder overall, so it's less of an issue nowadays.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah, as I mentioned in SE++, I've got a fairly bad case of it. If there's any way that someone else can hear that I am not pissing, I'm unable to start pissing. However, since the vast majority of the time I'm in a place where I can go into a stall and sit down if I need to(so it's silent) I've never had a huge pressing urge to seriously work on it. It just makes bar visits really awful(fucking bars and their substandard men's restrooms).

    I think if I made a serious effort, I'd have to start with standing in stalls, taking long relaxing breaths, and think of something that takes a lot of my concentration.

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  • Durandal InfinityDurandal Infinity Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    something about sitting down and pissing is just so... emasculating to me, I cant do it just to piss.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    But when I have to take a crap, I loathe farting. I mean, the bathroom stall is probably one of the most acceptable places to toot, but I just can't do it. I wait until everyone's gone or until something loud is happening, like a flushing toilet or a loud hand dryer.

    I swear the people who design stalls also design opera houses and symphony halls, because the acoustics are just insane. It can sound like the battle for Fallujah if you've had a bad night of Taco Bell or something.

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    something about sitting down and pissing is just so... emasculating to me, I cant do it just to piss.

    that's pretty weird.

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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    something about sitting down and pissing is just so... emasculating to me, I cant do it just to piss.

    that's pretty weird.

    Basically.

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Yeah, don't feel bad.

    I physically cannot urinate with another person in the same room, unless it's something like a concert where there's perpetually a full bathroom, but even then I have to be in a stall with my bladder about to burst. It's an inconvenience, but no matter what I've tried I can't get around it. I can really have to piss, but if I try to use an open urinal in a busy bathroom I would be able to stand there for 10 minutes and nothing would happen.

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    This is referred to in polite society as having a gentleman's bladder. It is not so uncommon, and there are various ways to work around it. I received some good advice when I asked this very forum for help a few years back when I first joined the military (if you think normal restroom use is hard, imagine someone staring at your cock while you try to piss in a tiny phial for random drug tests). The best suggestion (because it worked for me) was to count down from a number while consciously thinking and telling yourself that you are relaxing and preparing to piss, and that you will start to piss when you get to zero. How high of a number you start from is dependent on how hard it is for you to relax to piss.

    I should note that while this suggestion has helped me immensely, it doesn't work 100% of the time. Three years later though and I have become noticably better at being able to use a urinal when not totally alone. I will still generally use a stall if one is available though, and if anyone says shit I bluntly inform them that I enjoy my illusion of privacy while pissing (it's amazing how fast a frank comment about bodily functions will shut up an idiot who thought he was about to be clever).

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  • IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I have this issue myself.

    Sometimes I try to visualize watery imagery and so forth.

    Sometimes I just say screw it and come back later.

    I usually hit a stall if I have that option.

    For me, really, the biggest issue is if I'm already urinating, and then someone sidles up next to me.

    And oh fuck sometimes they start talking. D:

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited May 2008
    Whenever I have this problem I just close my eyes. Generally does the trick.

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  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2008
    I run multiplication tables in my head. Seems to work.
    Of interest to you might be an article on this subject over at Kuro5hin.org.

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  • blue powderblue powder Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Thanks a lot for all your advice, guys, I really apperciate it. Makes me feel better that it's not so common. I've been working on it, slowly improving.

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  • cmsamocmsamo Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    As other people have said - I think this is a common problem, and not something to worry about. Heck, at the age of 27, I guess I still get it myself sometimes when I'm using a urinal and there are people on all sides. If there's a situation where I know the public toilets are going to be busy, I go when I *really* need to go.

    Reminds of a conversation I once had with some buddies on the subject - there is a well known toilet humour questionnaire based on which urinal you would pick to use given certain circumstances - it was kinda based around the psychology of peeing and such, and despite being comedy, it was quite interesting.

    [] [] []

    So they are the 3 empty ones, which would you pick? And of course you should pick the middle one, to make the next person who comes in feel self concious about which one they pick.

    Or

    [x] [] [] []

    Where the X is occupied - most people would go to the far right to be as far away from the other "pisser" as possible, but in fact you should choose the one 2nd from the right, so the next person in has a hard choice to make...

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