They were talking on the radio about how a lot of employers are shortening the work week to 4 10 hour days to help people out
Or another company is allowing workers to telecommute 1 day a week
And stuff like that
Man, I'd like to get a scooter, but looking around at them, I'm pretty sure I would die. Does anyone know where I can find a good guide for cc -> mph, or other engine performance? I read somewhere that 50cc is around 30 mph max, and I'd like something a little more than that, just so I can match traffic on the surface streets around here a little better.
50cc scooter top speed is 30 mph
125 cc scooter top speed is 50 mph
250 cc scooter top speed is 70 mph
400 cc scooter top speed is 90 mph
650 cc scooter top speed is 110 mph
for high speed highways at a 65 mph speed limit I would go with the 400 cc, for 55 mph highways the 250cc will work.
you need the 400cc for quick acceleration and speed when merging on to traffic on exit ramps, a 250 cc scooter doesn't have the quick acceleration.
the 250cc scooter can reach a 70 mph top speed but it might take almost a mile to reach that speed.
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I'm kind of screwed as far as this all goes. I live in an area that is largely suburbs (not even well-to-do suburbs, just little city after worthless little city all mashed together because of Los Angeles). And to get to most places for the work I'm interested in, I have to traverse any number of freeways for a distance as well as the surface streets. I could also go just about anywhere inside of three different counties, perhaps even four. So as much as I'd love to get a nice fuel efficient scooter, I'm afraid that I would die on the freeways. And I couldn't even get one that's all that efficient if I have to deal with the hideous traffic around here. I'd probably be better off with a motorcycle, but is the gas mileage on those all that much better than cars?
I'm going to move to Oklahoma and open a gun store, sit in a rocking chair on the front porch the rest of my days, not going anywhere.
Fuck it, as soon as Riley doesn't need a gunnysack full of paraphernalia, Mr. SUV is going bye-bye. I liked my old Civic. Maybe I could do a Civic Hybrid. Do you still get crazy tax credits for hybrids?
Probably not as crazy as you think.
But you should still do it. Or an Accord Hybrid (bit more room for the kiddies).
Or you could get a manual and save more gas that way, too
There are much easier ways to cut down on monthly spending than getting a hybrid, especially with how much they cost right now on the used market. Not only that, but there are much better/easier things you can do for the environment, as well.
Or you could get a manual and save more gas that way, too
It is so very hard to find a manual these days. I hate automatics.
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PS saint2e - Top Gear or What Car? magazine (I can't remember which - I was reading it in a takeaway) did a feature on high octane fuel which concluded that it had no discernable benefit over regular fuel in road cars. I wouldn't waste your money on it personally, even if your car manual suggests using it.
I know Saint already chipped in on this, but not all cars carboraters are designed to handle different octanes for different fuel:air ratios, some require a specific octane to run properly.
I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
Or you could get a manual and save more gas that way, too
It is so very hard to find a manual these days. I hate automatics.
You and me both.
Anyway, I started making changes a while ago. We do NetFlix now, instead of going to the video store. Plan trips to town, going so far as to opt for shortest-route when possible within the trip (things like cold groceries can make this difficult). I generally drive 2-3 mph under the speed limit now, instead of 5-10 over. Hell, if nobody is behind me (or they can pass) I'll go 5-10 under. We go to the gym that's closer to our house, rather than the farther one, even though the closer has less machines and generally sucks. At this point I don't know how much else I can really change...it's a 10-mile bike ride into town on a busy highway, so that's not happening.
I can't wait until I finish school and we can afford to not live out in the boonies.
I'd ride a bike to work everyday, except its a 45 minute drive to work as it is. I need a closer job.
In Seattle rush hour, it can take me 45 minutes to get home, easy. It takes about an hour on my bike.
How far is it, in miles?
its roughly 50-60 miles away, its one of the reasons i choose a mid shift, 10:30am to 7:00pm, because traffic would be horrible if I had to drive it in traffic.
I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
depends on how fast you are :P
maybe an hour?
do you have showers at work? or a nearby gym you can get a shwoer membership from? (that's what I do)
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I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
depends on how fast you are :P
maybe an hour?
do you have showers at work? or a nearby gym you can get a shwoer membership from? (that's what I do)
I'll have to look into that. Or pack a lot of deodorant. Hmmm... I guess I should try and do the 13 miles myself without actually going to work first. That way if I don't make it, I can call a friend or something :P
It'd be nice to get off my lazy ass and get some exercise as well as save on gas.
I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
About an hour, depending on terrain. You will be pretty sweaty when you get there, but if you towel off right away and keep some deodorant at work you won't smell bad. I usually keep a pair of jeans at the office, and just pack a shirt and underpants daily.
I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
depends on how fast you are :P
maybe an hour?
do you have showers at work? or a nearby gym you can get a shwoer membership from? (that's what I do)
I'll have to look into that. Or pack a lot of deodorant. Hmmm... I guess I should try and do the 13 miles myself without actually going to work first. That way if I don't make it, I can call a friend or something :P
It'd be nice to get off my lazy ass and get some exercise as well as save on gas.
definately run the route a few times on the weekend before you try it "for real". It makes for a lot less stress on that first biking day.
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Or you could get a manual and save more gas that way, too
It is so very hard to find a manual these days. I hate automatics.
You and me both.
Anyway, I started making changes a while ago. We do NetFlix now, instead of going to the video store. Plan trips to town, going so far as to opt for shortest-route when possible within the trip (things like cold groceries can make this difficult). I generally drive 2-3 mph under the speed limit now, instead of 5-10 over. Hell, if nobody is behind me (or they can pass) I'll go 5-10 under. We go to the gym that's closer to our house, rather than the farther one, even though the closer has less machines and generally sucks. At this point I don't know how much else I can really change...it's a 10-mile bike ride into town on a busy highway, so that's not happening.
I can't wait until I finish school and we can afford to not live out in the boonies.
I've started driving 70-75 instead of 80, but I'm not willing to go that slowly. Partially because driving 60 on these freeways would be a safety hazard, and partially because I'm already spending 2 hours a day on the road, and I don't want to cut into my family time any more than I have to. As it is, by the time I get home, make dinner and clean up, I have about 30 minutes to spend with my kids before bed. I'm not about to spend that 30 minutes driving.
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I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
About an hour, depending on terrain. You will be pretty sweaty when you get there, but if you towel off right away and keep some deodorant at work you won't smell bad. I usually keep a pair of jeans at the office, and just pack a shirt and underpants daily.
Another thing people say is that if you shower before you ride in, you won't smell when you get there, even if you are sweaty. I guess because it's the bacteria on your skin that causes you to smell?
I personally couldn't do it with a shower after, I'd be sweaty all day.
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Before getting a scooter (and frankly anything between 50 - 250cc is really a small motorcycle) check into your provincial/state liscencing requierments. In BC you can ride anything 50cc and under on a regular car liscence. (Class 5) anything above that and you have to get a class 6. If you take your road test on a motorcyle that is under 300cc's youw ill be limited to them and can never ride a bigger bike on that class 6 unless you re test. This came out to keep guys (and gals) from taking thier tests on the much easier to hadle smaller bikes adn then riding thier larger cruisers.
I plan to eventually get my class 6 on my fathers old 450 Nighthawk, but for now a 49 cc Honda Jazz scooter is fine for getting around town in.
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50cc scooter top speed is 30 mph
125 cc scooter top speed is 50 mph
250 cc scooter top speed is 70 mph
400 cc scooter top speed is 90 mph
650 cc scooter top speed is 110 mph
for high speed highways at a 65 mph speed limit I would go with the 400 cc, for 55 mph highways the 250cc will work.
you need the 400cc for quick acceleration and speed when merging on to traffic on exit ramps, a 250 cc scooter doesn't have the quick acceleration.
the 250cc scooter can reach a 70 mph top speed but it might take almost a mile to reach that speed.
I'm gonna call shenanigans. I had a 125cc "scooter" while abroad. It was a Honda Wave. It could go 70mpg in ideal circumstances. It didn't feel safe going 70, but it could. It also took a little while to accelerate to that speed. It could even go that fast with 2 people on it. I bet a 200cc wouldn't have a problem at all. Just try one out before you buy it.
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I'm gonna call shenanigans. I had a 125cc "scooter" while abroad. It was a Honda Wave. It could go 70mpg in ideal circumstances. It didn't feel safe going 70, but it could. It also took a little while to accelerate to that speed. It could even go that fast with 2 people on it. I bet a 200cc wouldn't have a problem at all. Just try one out before you buy it.
Freefall?
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You'd be spending like 8 to 6 extra minutes driving if you went 65 instead of 75, at least with pure calculations
No idea about traffic and stoplights and all that stuff
The only solution here is to let your kids go to bed later :P
Huh. There's still the "everyone around me is going 80" factor, of course.
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Man, I'd like to get a scooter, but looking around at them, I'm pretty sure I would die. Does anyone know where I can find a good guide for cc -> mph, or other engine performance? I read somewhere that 50cc is around 30 mph max, and I'd like something a little more than that, just so I can match traffic on the surface streets around here a little better.
50cc scooter top speed is 30 mph
125 cc scooter top speed is 50 mph
250 cc scooter top speed is 70 mph
400 cc scooter top speed is 90 mph
650 cc scooter top speed is 110 mph
for high speed highways at a 65 mph speed limit I would go with the 400 cc, for 55 mph highways the 250cc will work.
you need the 400cc for quick acceleration and speed when merging on to traffic on exit ramps, a 250 cc scooter doesn't have the quick acceleration.
the 250cc scooter can reach a 70 mph top speed but it might take almost a mile to reach that speed.
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I'm kind of screwed as far as this all goes. I live in an area that is largely suburbs (not even well-to-do suburbs, just little city after worthless little city all mashed together because of Los Angeles). And to get to most places for the work I'm interested in, I have to traverse any number of freeways for a distance as well as the surface streets. I could also go just about anywhere inside of three different counties, perhaps even four. So as much as I'd love to get a nice fuel efficient scooter, I'm afraid that I would die on the freeways. And I couldn't even get one that's all that efficient if I have to deal with the hideous traffic around here. I'd probably be better off with a motorcycle, but is the gas mileage on those all that much better than cars?
I'm going to move to Oklahoma and open a gun store, sit in a rocking chair on the front porch the rest of my days, not going anywhere.
if you spend more than $2000 on a scooter, then you should have gotten a motorcycle instead.
EDIT: gas mileage on motorcycles depends on the model. Some are phenominal, some a guzzlers.
I'm gonna call shenanigans. I had a 125cc "scooter" while abroad. It was a Honda Wave. It could go 70mpg in ideal circumstances. It didn't feel safe going 70, but it could. It also took a little while to accelerate to that speed. It could even go that fast with 2 people on it. I bet a 200cc wouldn't have a problem at all. Just try one out before you buy it.
Freefall?
just a long, flat road. I think I maxed it out between 75-80 so it was definitely towards its top end speed.
You'd be spending like 8 to 6 extra minutes driving if you went 65 instead of 75, at least with pure calculations
No idea about traffic and stoplights and all that stuff
The only solution here is to let your kids go to bed later :P
Huh. There's still the "everyone around me is going 80" factor, of course.
You're in CA right?
Is staying to the right viable?
People don't drive that fast here generally (at least not so much that the majority of traffic is going that fast)
If you're going 75 in a 65, you'd better be pulling off the freeway in Cali, or you're going to get run over.
This is why I want to choke a bitch every time I go to Portland: it's like driving in Florida, only everyone isn't actually 80 years old, they just drive like they are.
I guess I don't mind people here driving slower because it means when I decide to try to up my mpg by driving 60 instead of speeding it doesn't mean the other drivers on the road try to run me over.
Driving the speedlimit on I-95 or the Merritt is a good way to get things thrown at your car as people blow by you. Hell even the state troopers flash people going the legal speed.
I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
About an hour, depending on terrain. You will be pretty sweaty when you get there, but if you towel off right away and keep some deodorant at work you won't smell bad. I usually keep a pair of jeans at the office, and just pack a shirt and underpants daily.
Another thing people say is that if you shower before you ride in, you won't smell when you get there, even if you are sweaty. I guess because it's the bacteria on your skin that causes you to smell?
I personally couldn't do it with a shower after, I'd be sweaty all day.
I do shower before I go into work, so that might be true. I'll have to bring my clothes to work somehow. Maybe in a backpack or something? Problem is, I have class right after work. So lugging my Calculus Book inside of a backpack on top of my clothes will get them really wrinkled.
I guess I don't mind people here driving slower because it means when I decide to try to up my mpg by driving 60 instead of speeding it doesn't mean the other drivers on the road try to run me over.
People will tailgate the holy hell out of you for doing 75 on most of the freeways in Cali.
The last time I took I-5 down to LA, one of my friends was driving, going over 100, and we were getting passed pretty regularly.
I looked on google maps, and it's about 13 miles from my house to work. Which isn't TOO bad. I wonder about how long that would be on a bike? I also don't want to smell like a foot when I get to work
About an hour, depending on terrain. You will be pretty sweaty when you get there, but if you towel off right away and keep some deodorant at work you won't smell bad. I usually keep a pair of jeans at the office, and just pack a shirt and underpants daily.
Another thing people say is that if you shower before you ride in, you won't smell when you get there, even if you are sweaty. I guess because it's the bacteria on your skin that causes you to smell?
I personally couldn't do it with a shower after, I'd be sweaty all day.
I do shower before I go into work, so that might be true. I'll have to bring my clothes to work somehow. Maybe in a backpack or something? Problem is, I have class right after work. So lugging my Calculus Book inside of a backpack on top of my clothes will get them really wrinkled.
I use a rack and panniers on my commuter bike. They give you more room for gear, put the weight lower on the bike which improves handling, and make the ride more comfortable.
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I go 70-75 fairly regularly on the freeways here, and that is legitimately about average speed. Plenty of people pass me. My car only goes up to 88, so I try my best to stay out of the fast lane.
I guess I don't mind people here driving slower because it means when I decide to try to up my mpg by driving 60 instead of speeding it doesn't mean the other drivers on the road try to run me over.
People will tailgate the holy hell out of you for doing 75 on most of the freeways in Cali.
The last time I took I-5 down to LA, one of my friends was driving, going over 100, and we were getting passed pretty regularly.
You'd hate driving in Illinois. 55 MPH speed limit, and it's actually enforced at times.
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I guess I don't mind people here driving slower because it means when I decide to try to up my mpg by driving 60 instead of speeding it doesn't mean the other drivers on the road try to run me over.
People will tailgate the holy hell out of you for doing 75 on most of the freeways in Cali.
The last time I took I-5 down to LA, one of my friends was driving, going over 100, and we were getting passed pretty regularly.
You'd hate driving in Illinois. 55 MPH speed limit, and it's actually enforced at times.
Same with Washington. It takes some serious getting used to.
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Or another company is allowing workers to telecommute 1 day a week
And stuff like that
I found this on a Yahoo! Answers page:
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I'm kind of screwed as far as this all goes. I live in an area that is largely suburbs (not even well-to-do suburbs, just little city after worthless little city all mashed together because of Los Angeles). And to get to most places for the work I'm interested in, I have to traverse any number of freeways for a distance as well as the surface streets. I could also go just about anywhere inside of three different counties, perhaps even four. So as much as I'd love to get a nice fuel efficient scooter, I'm afraid that I would die on the freeways. And I couldn't even get one that's all that efficient if I have to deal with the hideous traffic around here. I'd probably be better off with a motorcycle, but is the gas mileage on those all that much better than cars?
I'm going to move to Oklahoma and open a gun store, sit in a rocking chair on the front porch the rest of my days, not going anywhere.
Probably not as crazy as you think.
But you should still do it. Or an Accord Hybrid (bit more room for the kiddies).
Or you could get a manual and save more gas that way, too
It is so very hard to find a manual these days. I hate automatics.
I know Saint already chipped in on this, but not all cars carboraters are designed to handle different octanes for different fuel:air ratios, some require a specific octane to run properly.
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In Seattle rush hour, it can take me 45 minutes to get home, easy. It takes about an hour on my bike.
How far is it, in miles?
You and me both.
Anyway, I started making changes a while ago. We do NetFlix now, instead of going to the video store. Plan trips to town, going so far as to opt for shortest-route when possible within the trip (things like cold groceries can make this difficult). I generally drive 2-3 mph under the speed limit now, instead of 5-10 over. Hell, if nobody is behind me (or they can pass) I'll go 5-10 under. We go to the gym that's closer to our house, rather than the farther one, even though the closer has less machines and generally sucks. At this point I don't know how much else I can really change...it's a 10-mile bike ride into town on a busy highway, so that's not happening.
I can't wait until I finish school and we can afford to not live out in the boonies.
its roughly 50-60 miles away, its one of the reasons i choose a mid shift, 10:30am to 7:00pm, because traffic would be horrible if I had to drive it in traffic.
depends on how fast you are :P
maybe an hour?
do you have showers at work? or a nearby gym you can get a shwoer membership from? (that's what I do)
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I'll have to look into that. Or pack a lot of deodorant. Hmmm... I guess I should try and do the 13 miles myself without actually going to work first. That way if I don't make it, I can call a friend or something :P
It'd be nice to get off my lazy ass and get some exercise as well as save on gas.
About an hour, depending on terrain. You will be pretty sweaty when you get there, but if you towel off right away and keep some deodorant at work you won't smell bad. I usually keep a pair of jeans at the office, and just pack a shirt and underpants daily.
definately run the route a few times on the weekend before you try it "for real". It makes for a lot less stress on that first biking day.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
I've started driving 70-75 instead of 80, but I'm not willing to go that slowly. Partially because driving 60 on these freeways would be a safety hazard, and partially because I'm already spending 2 hours a day on the road, and I don't want to cut into my family time any more than I have to. As it is, by the time I get home, make dinner and clean up, I have about 30 minutes to spend with my kids before bed. I'm not about to spend that 30 minutes driving.
Another thing people say is that if you shower before you ride in, you won't smell when you get there, even if you are sweaty. I guess because it's the bacteria on your skin that causes you to smell?
I personally couldn't do it with a shower after, I'd be sweaty all day.
took out her barrettes and her hair spilled out like rootbeer
I plan to eventually get my class 6 on my fathers old 450 Nighthawk, but for now a 49 cc Honda Jazz scooter is fine for getting around town in.
70 round trip.
Freefall?
You'd be spending like 8 to 6 extra minutes driving if you went 65 instead of 75, at least with pure calculations
No idea about traffic and stoplights and all that stuff
The only solution here is to let your kids go to bed later :P
This is true. Damn American car market.
Huh. There's still the "everyone around me is going 80" factor, of course.
if you spend more than $2000 on a scooter, then you should have gotten a motorcycle instead.
EDIT: gas mileage on motorcycles depends on the model. Some are phenominal, some a guzzlers.
MPG or MPH? Because the former I don't have too much trouble believing.
You're in CA right?
Is staying to the right viable?
People don't drive that fast here generally (at least not so much that the majority of traffic is going that fast)
MPH, my bad.
just a long, flat road. I think I maxed it out between 75-80 so it was definitely towards its top end speed.
This is why I want to choke a bitch every time I go to Portland: it's like driving in Florida, only everyone isn't actually 80 years old, they just drive like they are.
I guess I don't mind people here driving slower because it means when I decide to try to up my mpg by driving 60 instead of speeding it doesn't mean the other drivers on the road try to run me over.
I do shower before I go into work, so that might be true. I'll have to bring my clothes to work somehow. Maybe in a backpack or something? Problem is, I have class right after work. So lugging my Calculus Book inside of a backpack on top of my clothes will get them really wrinkled.
The last time I took I-5 down to LA, one of my friends was driving, going over 100, and we were getting passed pretty regularly.
I use a rack and panniers on my commuter bike. They give you more room for gear, put the weight lower on the bike which improves handling, and make the ride more comfortable.
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You'd hate driving in Illinois. 55 MPH speed limit, and it's actually enforced at times.
Quite good in CA standards, I think.