Consoles, Internet Browsers, and YYYOOOUUUUUU!!!!
Local H Jay
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SO yeah, basically the one thing that's bugged me about my wonderful 360 since I got it was the lack of a built in intrawebz browser for which I could peruse the webs in HD glory without booting up my computer. It's interesting to note that of all 'current' systems (excluding the PS2), the 360 is the only one without some form of browser. The PSP and PS3 both have them built in, and the Wii and DS have purchasable browsers.
So, even the company that uses friend codes and refuses voice chat has browser for you to access porn with. So here are my questions, in no order of importance:
Why does the 360 lack such a feature?
Would you use it if it were implemented via patch? Or purchase it?
Do you lucky PS3/ Wii owners use the functionality?
How about PSP/ DS users?
Basically, there are usually so many people in my house that the computer is almost always taken. So if I wanted to check my e-mail/ facebook/ asian foot porn sites, I'd have to wait for my turn. The PSP's browser (the only other 'current' system I own) is woefully poor, and slow to boot. And yet I still find myself using it often. I know when I eventually buy a PS3 I'll love the fuck out of this feature. But I realize not everyone would really find it necessary, or pay for it even. So, just testing the waters here.
So, even the company that uses friend codes and refuses voice chat has browser for you to access porn with. So here are my questions, in no order of importance:
Why does the 360 lack such a feature?
Would you use it if it were implemented via patch? Or purchase it?
Do you lucky PS3/ Wii owners use the functionality?
How about PSP/ DS users?
Basically, there are usually so many people in my house that the computer is almost always taken. So if I wanted to check my e-mail/ facebook/ asian foot porn sites, I'd have to wait for my turn. The PSP's browser (the only other 'current' system I own) is woefully poor, and slow to boot. And yet I still find myself using it often. I know when I eventually buy a PS3 I'll love the fuck out of this feature. But I realize not everyone would really find it necessary, or pay for it even. So, just testing the waters here.
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Well, the answer is no. I won't go into all the specific details, but it's not trivial. There's a lot of security things involved. While other companies can get away with not securing their apps, MS is target #1 for hackers and securing a web browser for the 360, and preventing users from getting hacked and bricking their console, is not an easy task.
I'm certain it can be done, but I'd argue that the priority of a web browser, versus other features ... is rather low. It doesn't help that web browsing on the other consoles, isn't exactly a high-profile or high-usage scenario either. Sure, some people use it, but percentage-wise, I think you'll discover that it's a fairly small niche that regularly use the web browser on their console. If you find some study or survey that proves me wrong, I'd love to see it.
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I downloaded the browser for the wii, looked at it and said, "huh", and never used it again.
Recently both laptops in my house broke. So I have been forced to use my PS3 browser for various googling, as well as some forum stuff. It is a pain in the ass.
The Wii browser seems like it should be better, but it really isn't. It's sort of a shame that neither system's option is any good. (Though the Wii browser works great for Youtube videos)
The PSP is essentially the same as the PS3 setup with a much smaller screen.
So yes, I totally use that function.
That's a pretty retarded thing to say.
So you'd rather have no car than a car doesn't run as smoothly as other cars?
It's more like i'd rather have no car than a car that takes longer to get me places than public transportation, and less comfortably. (public transportation in this case being walking across the house to a computer)
Didn't anyone ever use this? I used to go into IRC with this thing. This shit was way ahead of it's time.
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Are Microsoft perhaps worried about Live Arcade being bypassed by people playing Flash games through a 360 browser?
Also judging by the title, this thread needs more...
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Do go on.
Not sure if it's the PS3 browser or the Game Shark keyboard I'm using. The keyboard has a USB adapter it plugs into which then plugs into the PS3 ... wondering if the problem is there.
It was pretty clunky though, and I missed being able to have more than one window open at a time, but it was better than nothing.
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But then again, nobody has exploited Wii users yet.
I would have expected MS to be the first one to have one though, due to all the "INTERNETS" and "WEBTVs" and such, not fucking Nintendo.
i also use it late at night sometimes, when the house is dark, the missus is asleep and i'm tired of being hunched on a desk chair. it's relaxing, stretched on the couch, quiet, absent - sends you to sleep
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There have been many times in meetings where we'll talk about a feature that has security implications around it. I'll ask, "So, how does competitor X deal with it?" The answer is usually, "They don't." When we finally do ship, I've tracked the stuff that hackers do just on our products alone and I am always glad we took the extra step to secure it properly.
Hopefully I don't come off as being whiny or jealous, but just wanted to point out some real life facts. In a way, the huge target that's on MS is quite good nowadays since it's forced everyone to take security very seriously. I'm actually worried for other companies and what will happen when hackers start seriously targeting them (Steam seems to be a most recent example).
As an aside, sometimes its scary how much security information I know (particularly about the web). Good things I'm not evil.
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Go to www.myorb.com and sign up for it. You install the program on your computer, then choose a folder to share out. Then you go to www.myorb.com on your Wii and it'll stream whatever you shared out.
My laptop has a webcam on it, and I was able to view that from my Wii. It is amazing.
Man, honestly, any guesses as to how many people would claim credit?
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Tell that to Forza 2.
Then again, tell that the digital tatas and binary hoohoos that showed up in Forza 2.
Damned if you do, damned if you don't, really.
Getting nutsacked is going to take on a whole new meaning with SackBoy and PlayStation Eye integration in LBP.
Well, being a monopoly in the OS market, and a near monopoly in others at various times (office software, browsers, development software, etc.), makes them the "Goliath" that many would love to take down.
People in MS aren't against user generated content (UGC). It's just that the idea of some bad user content bricking people's systems, or deleting all your data, or stealing your LIVE account, etc. is very, very scary. If it's going to be done, it's got to be done right. That said, things like the XNA Community stuff and Forge in Halo 3 and the Forza 2 skins, have gone a long way in injecting UGC into the console. You can expect to see more of it in the future.
Anyway, it's interesting to see that even in the PA forum community, web browser usage in consoles is mixed at best. You have to figure that we're far more technology friendly and savvy than the average user. So you can see why having an Internet browser in a console is a far lower priority than other features that impact far more people.
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I think hackers love to attack MS products because they have a huge user base of people that aren't very tech savvy. But many of them probably own hacked XBoxes themselves so I doubt you'll see them crap where they eat (which is part of the reason why the Linux box isn't pwned in hacking competitions).
Uhh... On topic, most gamers don't use a game console browser on a regular basis, but when you need one, you really need it. Imagine the frustration someone must feel when they need a FAQ, but have no computer handy.
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You forgot the pictures.
You fail at reading my good sir, does this mean you have to have an avatar from a game everybody hates whilst I bask in the glory that is Doctor Who?
How is this different than the past 20 or so years of gaming?
Don't get me wrong, ignoring all the resources it would take (from other features, mind you), sure a web browser for every console would be fine. I just don't personally see it as a pri 1 feature. For example, getting rid of friend codes versus web browser? Yeah, I would have gone for the former and not the latter. But that's just me.
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there's been no word on it so i might be dreaming, but i wouldn't be surprised if this will be included with the in-game xmb firmware. it's certainly possible - metal gear online opens up a browser for registration and shop purchases without exiting the game - it just depends if sony's seen it as a priority i suppose