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Looking for a High-End commercial video camera

Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
edited June 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
So for years my friends and I have been wanting to take some of our ideas and put them to film, and now it finally seems financially viable. But overall, I'm kinda lost on what too look at and what to get. I'm not even sure what the price range is for video cameras at this point.

Now, I'm talking real video cameras, not camcorders. Something that we could actually make a semi-professional looking product with. Something that would record in HD. I'm thinking the most we'd be willing to put into this is around $2000, so I'm curious, has the democratization of film reached that point yet?

No I don't.
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    DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Yeah, you can get something for under $2000. Amazon has a section for "professional camcorders" with several offerings under $2000. http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link_6923252_30?ie=UTF8&node=196577011&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=gp-left-1&pf_rd_r=128488C37VVXNBWF4M5H&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=401024801&pf_rd_i=502394

    I've heard good things about the Canon GL2: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-MiniDV-Digital-Camcorder-Optical/dp/B00006FXHQ/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=photo&qid=1214487378&sr=1-5

    If you're looking for actual film camcorders, well that's a different matter. You could probably find a camera cheaper, but editing/post-production is going to be more difficult/time-consuming/costly on film than on digital.

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    meekermeeker Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    If this is a short term project, you might be able to rent a very nice camera as well.

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    mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I tend to write OMGHUEG posts on this matter, so I'll keep this brief.

    Depending on how you'll be planning and shooting your video, you will probably want to put some money into accessories, so reserve some money for that.

    If you have $2000 to $2500 to spend, off the top of my head I'd recommend:

    * Canon GL2 or similar with XLR microphone input accessory
    * one or more external microphones, shotgun condenser and/or wireless lav, with required accessories (long XLR cable, Rycote Softie windscreen, etc.)
    * $300 or so worth of actual fluid head tripod
    * external tape rewinder, for your tape format of choice
    * lots of blank tapes and a few cleaning cartridges
    * some hardware store halogen work lights with stands, some sheets of "gel" light filter plastic (EDIT: buy from a store that sells lights for stage or video production), and some long 12-gauge (15 amp, usually yellow) extension cords, and maybe some foam core for bouncing light (cheap but annoying-to-carry-around) EDIT: foam core is a hobby store item, it's essentially poster board but thick (quarter or half inch or so) and has dense foam in the middle. More durable than plain styrofoam but super easy to damage or destroy.

    Instead of letting loose with tons of info, I'll wait to be asked if you want to hear more.

    Edit: also get some good clampy over-the-ear headphones. It really stinks to spend hours shooting good video only to later find your audio is missing or badly captured or ruined. Wear headphones and monitor audio while you record -- your onscreen VU meter is no substitute. Over-the-ear means the ear cups are huge and your outer ear fits completely inside the cups, and clampy means the headband is firmly sprung, so the ear cups are clamped firmly against your head. Less comfortable for casual listening but better noise isolation.

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    FantasmaFantasma Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    I saw the following equipment, which is used for professional work:

    http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-broadcastcameras/cat-hdv/

    http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-PDW700/

    http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-broadcastcameras/cat-hdcam/

    http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-broadcastcameras/cat-studio/

    Of course, the prices bite.

    P.S.

    I talked to someone who works in professional photography, movie production, and he told me that even nowadays nothing beats film yet.

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    DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited June 2008
    Fantasma wrote: »
    P.S.

    I talked to someone who works in professional photography, movie production, and he told me that even nowadays nothing beats film yet.

    Yeah... except for cost. If he's doing this on a small scale -- which it sounds like he is -- he could easily capture and edit digital video on a personal computer at very little or no cost except in time. And unless it's drastically changed recently, DV tapes are going to be much cheaper than film.

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