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Lightweight and effective antivirus to buy?

KorlashKorlash QuébécoisTorontoRegistered User regular
edited July 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Hey there. I did a search on this subject, but it seems this forum is full of cheap people as everyone always makes requests for free antivirus software :p.

So, since my norton subscription ended yesterday, I'm looking for a good antivirus to buy. Now, I heard some nice things about kapersky but I hear it's just as slow as Norton, which is a big issue for me. I must admit I've never had a virus with Norton running, but it significantly increase the time required for my computer to start up, and it slows it afterwards.

I've also heard of NOD32, that it is very lightweight, but I also read that it doesn't offer as much protection as Norton and Kapersky.

Is there any antivirus that is both lightweight and efficient, or am I stuck with bloated software?

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Try http://www.avast.com/ its what i used after i got tired of norton telling me i couldn't do things on my own system. Bonus is that its free so that you can check it out regardless of what you want to do eventually.

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  • WifflebatWifflebat Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Sophos is excellent but pricy and perhaps overkill for a single user. Might be worth a look though.

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  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Korlash wrote: »
    Hey there. I did a search on this subject, but it seems this forum is full of cheap people as everyone always makes requests for free antivirus software :p.

    So, since my norton subscription ended yesterday, I'm looking for a good antivirus to buy. Now, I heard some nice things about kapersky but I hear it's just as slow as Norton, which is a big issue for me. I must admit I've never had a virus with Norton running, but it significantly increase the time required for my computer to start up, and it slows it afterwards.

    I've also heard of NOD32, that it is very lightweight, but I also read that it doesn't offer as much protection as Norton and Kapersky.

    Is there any antivirus that is both lightweight and efficient, or am I stuck with bloated software?

    The ones I've used are all kinda bloated but seem to work well:
    Norton, kaspersky, AVG,mcCafee
    Although the only paid version of anti virus software I've used is Norton and I haven't used mccafee in years and years...
    My experience is that the free AVG is doing as well as the paid for Norton was.

    There are two lame solutions I can offer to bloated anti virus,
    Faster computer
    Use "sleep" instead of shut off, boot time = 2 seconds.

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  • DmanDman Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Try http://www.avast.com/ its what i used after i got tired of norton telling me i couldn't do things on my own system. Bonus is that its free so that you can check it out regardless of what you want to do eventually.

    avast is what i'm using on one of my computers, my understanding is that its basically the a version of kaspersky

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    CA makes one of the lightest I've ever used.
    http://ca.com/us/products/product.aspx?ID=156

    personally, I run AVG.

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Dman wrote: »
    Try http://www.avast.com/ its what i used after i got tired of norton telling me i couldn't do things on my own system. Bonus is that its free so that you can check it out regardless of what you want to do eventually.

    avast is what i'm using on one of my computers, my understanding is that its basically the a version of kaspersky

    Ah i wouldn't know, never tried kaspersky let alone its different versions. But it stays out of my way well enough and is on the ball viruswise.

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  • KVWKVW Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've always believed that buying anti-virus software was just paying people to make your computer slower. 99% of all viruses are because you run the virus and either a) dont scan it or b) ignore the scan and install anyways. Once it's run, any virus worth a damn overwrites your anti-virus software and typically blocks standard ways of removing it, making that AV program a paper weight.

    However, it's your decision to buy or use it, so if I had to recommend any, Id use Trend Micro's, which has a free online scan and boxed version you can purchase.

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  • CrashtardCrashtard Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    If I may ask, why do you want to BUY something when a free one works just as well? AVG is a great antivirus. I run it alongside Windows Defender and have had 0 problems.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    counter-example: DNS exploit that redirects you to a malicious web page.

    sure 99% can be beaten by smart computing, which mostly we don't do (you check hashes?) but that 1% is a bitch.

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  • KorlashKorlash Québécois TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Crashtard wrote: »
    If I may ask, why do you want to BUY something when a free one works just as well? AVG is a great antivirus. I run it alongside Windows Defender and have had 0 problems.

    Well there's the fact that most of the info I've read points to paid software being better. I've always paid for my antivirus.

    Besides, I use paypal with this computer, so I'd rather be more secure than I need to.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Well, you could try ZoneAlarm ISS 7, which uses the Kapersky engine.

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  • kevbotkevbot Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I use eset's NOD32 ( http://www.eset.com/ ). It's extremely fast and lightweight. I've switched our entire office of 40+ people over to it from a variety of different packages (McAfee, Norton, AVG, Kaspersky) and every single person noticed the increase in speed. It's also quite cheap ($25 or so).

    I'd avoid AVG as the newer versions are considerably more bulky than in the past and it's covered with nag screens asking you to buy the full version. You should never consider Norton or McAfee, as they're extremely bulky and generally ineffective. Kaspersky and Avast! generally have good reviews, although I've had only limited exposure to them. I've used both Trend Micro's PC-Cillin and Bit-defender in the past, but moved away from them as they added extra "features" that caused them to affect the performance of my PC. When PC-cillin and bit-defender were stand-alone antivirus software they were fine, but once the firewall and spam protection functionality was added in they became too bloated for use.

    Don't listen to anyone who tells you that you don't need antivirus software. No matter how careful you are you can still end up with one... just a few days ago there were more reports of a banner ad company whose ads contained some sort of exploit. If you must run without AV software, at least disable Java in your web browser (it helps a lot, believe me. I've been doing this for a while).

    Good luck!

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  • KivutarKivutar Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Avast was far more irritating to me than AVG ever has been, I only bore it for a day or so before uninstalling.
    Since then I've just been back to AVG, I've never had any trouble personally.

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  • ThanatosThanatos Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'm gonna go ahead and give you the recommendation for the lightest-weight antivirus software ever: nothing.

    That's what I run, and I've had a grand total of one virus, which I was dumb enough to install myself. I do an online scan with Trend Micro every few months, never find anything. As long as you're not running Internet Explorer or Outlook, there's really no reason to bother.

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  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Wifflebat wrote: »
    Sophos is excellent but pricy and perhaps overkill for a single user. Might be worth a look though.
    It's pretty good, especially if you're at a uni/college/school that has subscriptions (I think that's the term) for staff and/or students. I know a few unis do this do this for its staff/students, so if you're at one, it'd probably be worth asking.

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I'm gonna go ahead and give you the recommendation for the lightest-weight antivirus software ever: nothing.

    That's what I run, and I've had a grand total of one virus, which I was dumb enough to install myself. I do an online scan with Trend Micro every few months, never find anything. As long as you're not running Internet Explorer or Outlook, there's really no reason to bother.

    I also have to recommend Trend Micro's online scanner. It's fairly fast, only requires an active-x or java plug in and only runs when you tell it to. Given the general trend of using various anti-virus programs as the first targets or even as a form of shelter, the online option insures you get a working scanner.

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  • DrFrylockDrFrylock Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Thanatos wrote: »
    I'm gonna go ahead and give you the recommendation for the lightest-weight antivirus software ever: nothing.

    That's what I run, and I've had a grand total of one virus, which I was dumb enough to install myself. I do an online scan with Trend Micro every few months, never find anything. As long as you're not running Internet Explorer or Outlook, there's really no reason to bother.

    Do you have the flash plugin installed in your ultra-secure Firefox? What about Java? Acrobat Reader? QuickTime? RealPlayer? Does your browser open MP3s in WinAmp directly?

    The point is that more and more exploits are hitting targets that aren't the browser, your OS, or your email client, and these things are the things that aren't getting updated by Windows Update, which at least actively tries to keep you up to date.

    My issue with current antiviruses is that it's very tough to tell whether they're keeping up with the increasingly fast-paced arms race that is malware. Does anybody know if NOD32 or Avast! or AVG will prevent you from getting hit with Virtumonde / Vundo / Virtumondo or any one of the dozens of SmitFraud variants?

    I know almost certainly that once you do get hit, these won't fix them, and in fact you need a cocktail of freely-available infection-specific programs, plus some experienced help with HijackThis!, to get rid of them once you get them. I guarantee I have seen more than one fully patched machine get hit with these, and I've never figured out what the attack vector was. Zero-day exploit? Maybe. A very slightly out-of-date helper application in the browser? Coulda been. These machines were running antiviruses at the time. After scraping this shit off more than one machine, I noticed that the nasties were getting smarter, to the point that they were actively preventing me from running the programs that would fix them.

    If there's an argument for "none," it's not that practicing responsible computing will prevent you from getting hit. Unfortunately, it may be that they're just ineffectual anyway. Anything's better than nothing, though, and so if one of these things happens to stop a SmitFraud .DLL from running on your machine and prevents a bad infection from barfing all over your system, it's worth it.

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  • matthias00matthias00 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    How effective is the Noscript addon for firefox? It seems like it would be pretty good for this kind of thing, but I'm not an expert or anything.

    I used to use AVG, but now I'm on Avast. I'm not sure if I like it more or not, I've only had it a short while. It seems to be slowing my system down more, which is never good...

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  • RNEMESiS42RNEMESiS42 Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I'll give another nod to Nod32. Back in the day, I was able to just use the 30 day trial period, uninstall it before it expired, and reinstall. That was years ago, though. I'd be willing to buy it now, since I currently don't have any sort of virus protection D:

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  • zhen_roguezhen_rogue Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I've been a fervent supporter of AntiVir for years now.
    Very small resource footprint (three active processes for about 11,500k total), very unobtrusive/hidden interface, very user-friendly, daily definition updates, rootkit detection, and it is totally free.
    I've never had problems with false positives, I see it detect maybe a virus or so every two weeks (i use IE and outlook), and i've never in several years of use had a virus become active on my system. (At first, I double checked my system status with several other online detection methods to make sure AntiVir was doing its job).

    The only price you pay is a single pop-up ad window that offers their premium/business service each time you update the definitions.
    One click per day to close the window is worth it to me, in lieu of a monthly charge and bloated-ass invasive program.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I could be that guy who puts an Ubuntu link into this kind of thread, but I won't.

    On my Windows machine I used to use AVG but it was interfering with Source-engine games, causing frequent crashes. Something about paged pool memory. I switched to Anti-Vir but didn't want to deal with its adware. So now I use Avast, and it's working really well. No conflicts that I've found, and reasonably lightweight.

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  • BowenBowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Daedalus wrote: »
    I could be that guy who puts an Ubuntu link into this kind of thread, but I won't.

    On my Windows machine I used to use AVG but it was interfering with Source-engine games, causing frequent crashes. Something about paged pool memory. I switched to Anti-Vir but didn't want to deal with its adware. So now I use Avast, and it's working really well. No conflicts that I've found, and reasonably lightweight.

    Yeah AVG does that with a few games too. I recommend Avast as well.

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  • KorlashKorlash Québécois TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited July 2008
    Ok, I read a few reviews and a lot of people seem to praise BitDefender 2008. Has anybody tried this? Is it faster than Norton?

    I'll also keep NOD32 in mind.

    Also, as I said, I already know of some free antivirus, but really, I would much rather pay ~50$ per year to be certain that my computer and personal information will be safe.

    And I will probably dual-boot windows and unbuntu on my next computer, but this one will stay on windows.

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited July 2008
    I wouldn't trust something more or less, especially regarding personal info, just because i paid for it. Anyway thats just me. Posting again to say that, a few years ago my dad had bitdefender, back then it was pretty horrible at catching viruses pretty intrusive and refused to automatically update. I have no idea if thats fixed nowadays.

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