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The Mixed Martial Arts Thread - Round 2
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UFC owns the WEC.
I did find it hilarious that the Diaz brothers both do the same stupid "field goal" arms when they think they're winning. Retards.
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They should give odds on Kenny Florian opening Huerta up with an elbow. I see a first round stoppage. (edit - Huerta has never fought anyone and yet it overconfident. "Its going to be a cakewalk."
I also think Lesnar should get his first win against an even semi-legit MMAer with Ground-and-pound in the 2nd.
GSP will win, he's just too good for anyone else in the class right now.
Anyone have their eye on any of the other fights?
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I caught that fight and some others earlier this week, and I've gotta say that the competition in WEC has gotten a lot better since the last time I watched any of it.
There's no commentary is there?
Also, GSP's polar opposite end of fight action was amazing.
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GSP, Florian, and Lesnar all won by unanimous decision in UFC 87.
Best fight of the night goes to MacDonald and Maia however.
was a really good card tonight. worst fight was congo vs viking. congo's just give me the title speech was hilarious considering he just lost to hearring who was pummelled by lesnar.
florian looked really good, huerta looked terrible. fight was a bit dissapointing.
the first round of the maia macdonald fight was insane. maia is terrifying on the ground.
fitch was really impressive in his ability to not get knocked the fuck out by all those shots he took, but he was never a challenge to defeat gsp. the gsp penn will be good, but i don't think penn is prepared for how freakishly strong gsp is now.
The redeeming factor of Florian's fight was the third match where both fighters went loose. However, Huerta was just way out classed by Florian, who did some wonderful front kicks to Robert's face many times.
Brock Lesnar is too huge. He had to had custom made gloves, and ended up creating a new category, "XXXL" in size. The first round Lesnar was unstoppable, and he was in complete control the whole time he was on the ground with Herring. The other two, however, were disappointing because that's all Brock did. For two whole rounds, Brock had the chance to submission HH, but ultimately decided to just keep giving lethal knees every once in awhile. It was like watching a cat punking around a mouse.
Fitch has something GSP doesn't, an iron jaw. Man made it past the five rounds and that demands respect. GSP did very good, but he took down Jon too much when he could've kept it standing and striking. The last two rounds wouldn't have happened if GSP kept up with his counters on Jon, but either way GSP did what he does and it worked. I'm excited to see how well the new GSP would work against the new BJ Penn.
lI mean, he only looked good figthing against Herring on the ground because Herring is disastrous at anything that is not being kissed by another man.
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And if he can pick up just a good rear-naked choke and get some Muay Thai technique behind those knees of his, in addition to the BJJ training he's doing, he could be huge. Like... himself-sized huge.
Nope, I scored all of the rounds 10 for GSP.
Even in rounds 2 and 4, where GSP didn't dominate, he landed more effective shots than Fitch.
And the other rounds, Fitch didn't do anything worth a damn to give him 9.
So it looks more like this IMO:
R1: 10-8
R2: 10-9
R3: 10-8
R4: 10-9
R5: 10-9
The only way I can see someone giving a round to Fitch is if they see that a landed strike or takedown is counted twice for Fitch, or even worse, a takedown attempt from Fitch as a score for Fitch.
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Agreed x2.
Huerta deserves some respect by escaping when Florian had his back +hooks in the first two rounds, but he was never a real threat to Florian. Florian was faster and stronger on their feet and Huerta could only hope to escape on the ground.
As I thought, Lesnar overpowered HH. Even though he was much better than he was against Mir, I still thinnk Mir or a similarly technically skilled fighter could make him look bad.
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I agree with you. Barely. I definitely did end up giving at least round two to Fitch.
Because of one obvious thing - despite how much GSP was able to control and destroy Fitch's wrestling and standup, GSP wasn't able to finish the fight even if he gave it all.
And that speaks of Fitch's endurance and experience.
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I'll have to rewatch it but it seemed that in the second round GSP was mostly trying to counter and Fitch was landing his blows a lot more cleanly. Don't quote me on that but I distinctively recall being amazed at Fitch making the second round so close.
fitch's fortitude was really impressive. i thought he was done so many times when he buckled, but he always recovered quickly. he also definitely did land some good blows throughout the fight. gsp was pretty marked up at the press conference. fitch looked like hamburger meat, but still.
forgot to mention the gamburyan fight. really liked watching him get knocked out so quick. hated him on tuf.
I couldn't believe he was still concious after some of those shots, that's a man with a chin right there. My favorite thing about GSP in this fight was that he didn't look like a human billboard. I think i've never seen CondomDeopt.com on so many asses in my life.
And yeah manny was annoying on TUF, that season 5 finale was battle of the annoying asshats with him and Diaz.
I thought about that too I think I mentally commended him a bit. He just kind of represented his style of Karate with class by wearing that gi. He didn't get handed a shiny new energy drink it was just a bottle of water. I was seriously surprised at first.
It really was. I've never seen a back-and-forth ground fight like that. I was really impressed with both guys. I didn't really know how to score round 1.
Macdonald's defense kind of blew my mind that first round.
Even when they do fight, it shouldn't be for a belt. I think GSP will win, but assume for a minute that the fight is for the 170lb belt and Penn pulls it off. Two of the more stacked divisions in the UFC (behind LHW) all of a sudden get only 1-2 title defenses a year.
Just feed him to Big Nog so we can wash our hands of him.
There are definitely certain people who I anti-root for. Gamburyan is one of those. Diaz brothers. Chris Leben (bipolar). Josh Koscheck (looks like he smells like doodoo). Melvin Guillard. I used to not care for Mr. Team Dagger - Hawaii, but he's gotten better.
I also don't like Tito Ortiz or BJ Penn, but I feel sorry for Tito in the same way I feel sorry for Ken Shamrock and have to admit that BJ is super-talented, even if he's a nasty little asshole. I sure as shit wouldn't let BJ come to my house for a party without him bringing his own food. I'll be damned if I'd let him put his hands in the communal chip bowl.
That really was a great fight. I really enjoyed this card overall.