Marvel vs. Capcom 3?! DONT TOY WITH MY DREAMS, FEIGE!

mxmarks

Around these forums, about once a month, someone will comment about how brilliant Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was on the Dreamcast. I still play it on my DC semi-regularly, and I've read a lot around here about people who do the same. There's discussions about picking it up for PS2, XBox...about how great it was, about how sad it is that it's gone...

So imagine my suprise when THIS was just slid into the middle of a Comic Con "Marvel: YOUR Universe" panel write-up at Newsarama.

Possibility of another Marvel vs. Capcom game (a question that excited the audience)? "Would it be possible one day? Yes. And maybe sooner than you think," teased Feige.

Kevin Feige needs to define 'sooner', because my god I've never been so excited.

Anyone have any more details on why the franchise stopped? Didn't Marvel sell everyone off to Activision? And now Iron Man, Cap and Hulk are at Sega...but still in Ultimate Alliance 2...so is it possible Marvel is finally just licensing out charecters for specific games, and allowing everyone to appear anywhere?

Next Gen Marvel vs. Capcom has potential to be my most anticipated title, if I can get a tad more info...

Daedalus

Marvel sold the fighting game rights to EA, who still hold them. I believe it was a ten-year contract, same as it was for Capcom. Marvel Nemesis 2 is rumored and might even be in development, though after the first one's flop I sort of doubt it.

randombattle

Though EA hasn't been doing much with it. Most likely the agreement between EA and Marvel is running out of time as these things are rarely for a permanent length of time. Afterall that was made a good while ago.

I think there is a chance of a MvC3.

Mugenmidget

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

Daedalus

Mugenmidget wrote: »

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

Given that the original sprites were drawn for a game playing at the next-gen high resolution of 240p, I think they might need to redo them. Or go 3D.

Mugenmidget

But Mega Man 9 gave me hope for a new era of laziness. :-(

In fact, that could be the subtitle.

Daedalus

given the stages and music in MvC2, they're almost there already.

I mean, MvC2 was great and all; I retain my copy to this day, but good lord the background music was terrible and there were barely any fucking stages.

edit: basically they should have just yanked stages from MvC, MvSF, XvSF, MSH, and COTA (and maybe a couple of SFAlpha games) and used them instead of the sort-of 3D crap they tried in MvC2. Talk about wasted potential.

Glenn565

Daedalus wrote: »

Marvel sold the fighting game rights to EA, who still hold them. I believe it was a ten-year contract, same as it was for Capcom. Marvel Nemesis 2 is rumored and might even be in development, though after the first one's flop I sort of doubt it.

EA dropped the rights after Marvel Nemesis sold like crap. As far as anyone knows, they're up in the air.

Mugenmidget

Daedalus wrote: »

edit: basically they should have just yanked stages from MvC, MvSF, XvSF, MSH, and COTA (and maybe a couple of SFAlpha games) and used them instead of the sort-of 3D crap they tried in MvC2. Talk about wasted potential.

Aw man, that would have been so cool. Here's hoping!

Fig-D

Mugenmidget wrote: »

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

They can reuse the Street Fighter models from Capcom vs Tatsunoko because I think we all know that that one isn't leaving Japan outside of import sales.

Daedalus

Glenn565 wrote: »

Daedalus wrote: »

Marvel sold the fighting game rights to EA, who still hold them. I believe it was a ten-year contract, same as it was for Capcom. Marvel Nemesis 2 is rumored and might even be in development, though after the first one's flop I sort of doubt it.

EA dropped the rights after Marvel Nemesis sold like crap. As far as anyone knows, they're up in the air.

Well, that's a relief. I'd thought they clung to them for some stupid reason.

X-Men vs. Madden '010: The New Age Of Shitty Games

or something.

Kyougu

Daedalus wrote: »

Mugenmidget wrote: »

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

Given that the original sprites were drawn for a game playing at the next-gen high resolution of 240p, I think they might need to redo them. Or go 3D.

Well, they already have an engine in place for Marvel vs. Tatsunoko, which is really the spiritual sucessor to this series.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8XmvnCzzS-c

mxmarks

I'm gonna take you for a riiiiiide!

A Venom/Cable/Blackheart team beating the hell out of a Cactus in a sombrero/Jill Valentine/Dhalsim team only can reach its full potential with smooth jazz piano in the background.

I'd love to see MvC3 done in the same cool 2D animation that SF4 is getting.

Henroid

"Sooner than you think"? What a jerk. We need more than that!

Edit - And no 3D. Stick to sprites, please. Redraw them. Only good things can come of this.

Speed Racer

Fig-D wrote: »

Mugenmidget wrote: »

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

They can reuse the Street Fighter models from Capcom vs Tatsunoko because I think we all know that that one isn't leaving Japan outside of import sales.

Maybe this is the same game, and they're replacing the Tatsunoko characters with Marvel characters for the American version?

Ziggymon

Yeah as far as I know EA dropped it after they canned the development of the game that was using the Def Jam Icon engine because it was getting such bad press and the fact that Def Jam did pretty poor sales wise.

Arcibi

This has potential for awesome

I loved Marvel vs Capcom 2 and I really hope they make another one with even more characters

I want to be able to field a team of Viewtiful Joe, Dante, and Thor against someone's Namor, Phoenix Wright, and Dr. Strange

Also: un-nerf Megaman plz

Daedalus

Kyougu wrote: »

Daedalus wrote: »

Mugenmidget wrote: »

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

Given that the original sprites were drawn for a game playing at the next-gen high resolution of 240p, I think they might need to redo them. Or go 3D.

Well, they already have an engine in place for Marvel vs. Tatsunoko, which is really the spiritual sucessor to this series.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8XmvnCzzS-c

Now that engine right there looks promising.

edit: wait, isn't that game using the SF4 engine?

Henroid

Phoenix Wright would be a hilarious addition to the series. And he already has great music to go with him.

Speed Racer

Arcibi wrote: »

This has potential for awesome

I loved Marvel vs Capcom 2 and I really hope they make another one with even more characters

I want to be able to field a team of Viewtiful Joe, Dante, and Thor against someone's Namor, Phoenix Wright, and Dr. Strange

Also: un-nerf Megaman plz

Gigantic rosters are great in theory but the more characters they have the less balanced the game is.

Daedalus

Mushroom Pie wrote: »

Arcibi wrote: »

This has potential for awesome

I loved Marvel vs Capcom 2 and I really hope they make another one with even more characters

I want to be able to field a team of Viewtiful Joe, Dante, and Thor against someone's Namor, Phoenix Wright, and Dr. Strange

Also: un-nerf Megaman plz

Gigantic rosters are great in theory but the more characters they have the less balanced the game is.

The Vs. Capcom series has never been about game balance.

Turkey

Henroid wrote: »

"Sooner than you think"? What a jerk. We need more than that!

Edit - And no 3D. Stick to sprites, please. Redraw them. Only good things can come of this.

lime'd for AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA

Mushroom Pie wrote: »

Maybe this is the same game, and they're replacing the Tatsunoko characters with Marvel characters for the American version?

I could actually see this happening, although I'd rather have TvC coming out here. All the Tatsunoko characters they've shown could easily be exchanged for Marvel characters.

Fig-D

Mushroom Pie wrote: »

Fig-D wrote: »

Mugenmidget wrote: »

So would people rather see new sprites? If this were made I'd want them to keep the old so it'd be easier to introduce new characters, or maybe focus on balancing the game while still retaining a huge cast. That'd be an awesome experience.

They can reuse the Street Fighter models from Capcom vs Tatsunoko because I think we all know that that one isn't leaving Japan outside of import sales.

Maybe this is the same game, and they're replacing the Tatsunoko characters with Marvel characters for the American version?

I honestly wouldn't doubt it. MvC2 isn't nearly the kind of staple in fighting games tournaments in Japan that it is in the States. That and they'll get two "different" games that sell well in two different regions with less development time. The only "losses" are the non-Japanese Tatsunoko fans and the Japanese Marvel fans and they'll make that relatively small sales group back with import sales.

Henroid

Marvel vs. Tatsunoko looks amazing. o.o

Kelor

Was that Teknoman in that trailer?

Dareth Ram

Henroid wrote: »

"Sooner than you think"? What a jerk. We need more than that!

Edit - And no 3D. Stick to sprites, please. Redraw them. Only good things can come of this.

You'll be lucky to get a MvsC3 at all.

No one will be happy or satisfied. Assuming the game is ever announced, it's going to be in 3D like Steet Fighter 4 and Capcom vs thatanimecompany, and everyone will bitch and cry and whine about how unfair it is even though, HEY, despite the odds, there's a new Marvel vs Capcom game.

I hate myself, because I'm right.

Dareth Ram

Kelor wrote: »

Was that Teknoman in that trailer?

Yes.


But not the one that I care about.

Fig-D

Henroid wrote: »

Capcom vs. Tatsunoko looks amazing. o.o

Doesn't it? I've really fallen for the manga style shaders that they're using on those 3D models. I still enjoy really high quality sprite work (see KoF XII) but I'll take CvT's style as a close second.

Olivaw

Kelor wrote: »

Was that Teknoman in that trailer?

If by Teknoman you mean Tekkaman the Space Knight then yes it was

Classic design too

I had an awesome VHS of that show back when I was little

Dareth Ram

Tekkaman Blade, please.

Mugenmidget

Dareth Ram wrote: »

Henroid wrote: »

"Sooner than you think"? What a jerk. We need more than that!

Edit - And no 3D. Stick to sprites, please. Redraw them. Only good things can come of this.

You'll be lucky to get a MvsC3 at all.

No one will be happy or satisfied. Assuming the game is ever announced, it's going to be in 3D like Steet Fighter 4 and Capcom vs thatanimecompany, and everyone will bitch and cry and whine about how unfair it is even though, HEY, despite the odds, there's a new Marvel vs Capcom game.

I hate myself, because I'm right.

But I love 3D! :-)

They have a good look going with Capcom vs. Tatsunoko, seems like 3D would be a fantastic route to take.

mxmarks

The whole huge draw of MvC to me was the fact they just perfectly managed to mesh popular charecters and total random out there charecters.

Any game that has Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man and Venom along side Marrow, Thanos, A Sentinel and fucking SHUMA GORATH is just beyond anything I could ever hope for. I dont care, as long as nothing is so unbalanced its broken, I'll take 300 charecters with a couple cheap ones thrown in over a small cast of perfect balance.

randombattle

Mugenmidget wrote: »

Dareth Ram wrote: »

Henroid wrote: »

"Sooner than you think"? What a jerk. We need more than that!

Edit - And no 3D. Stick to sprites, please. Redraw them. Only good things can come of this.

You'll be lucky to get a MvsC3 at all.

No one will be happy or satisfied. Assuming the game is ever announced, it's going to be in 3D like Steet Fighter 4 and Capcom vs thatanimecompany, and everyone will bitch and cry and whine about how unfair it is even though, HEY, despite the odds, there's a new Marvel vs Capcom game.

I hate myself, because I'm right.

But I love 3D! :-)

They have a good look going with Capcom vs. Tatsunoko, seems like 3D would be a fantastic route to take.

Yeah I'd rather see good high quality 3d then recycled old 2d graphics any day.

Henroid

randombattle wrote: »

Mugenmidget wrote: »

Dareth Ram wrote: »

Henroid wrote: »

"Sooner than you think"? What a jerk. We need more than that!

Edit - And no 3D. Stick to sprites, please. Redraw them. Only good things can come of this.

You'll be lucky to get a MvsC3 at all.

No one will be happy or satisfied. Assuming the game is ever announced, it's going to be in 3D like Steet Fighter 4 and Capcom vs thatanimecompany, and everyone will bitch and cry and whine about how unfair it is even though, HEY, despite the odds, there's a new Marvel vs Capcom game.

I hate myself, because I'm right.

But I love 3D! :-)

They have a good look going with Capcom vs. Tatsunoko, seems like 3D would be a fantastic route to take.

Yeah I'd rather see good high quality 3d then recycled old 2d graphics any day.

On top of that, Marvel vs. Tatsunoko has a great style for 3D. If a possible MvC3 is based on this art, I say go for it. Forget what I said earlier about sprites.

Kuribo's Shoe

WHAT

WHAT IS THIS

Daedalus

Kuribo's Shoe wrote: »

WHAT

WHAT IS THIS

hopes and dreams, soon to be mercilessly crushed.

Arcibi

Mushroom Pie wrote: »

Arcibi wrote: »

This has potential for awesome

I loved Marvel vs Capcom 2 and I really hope they make another one with even more characters

I want to be able to field a team of Viewtiful Joe, Dante, and Thor against someone's Namor, Phoenix Wright, and Dr. Strange

Also: un-nerf Megaman plz

Gigantic rosters are great in theory but the more characters they have the less balanced the game is.

I don't care how unbalanced it is

I want my commercialized MUGEN, by God

Kuribo's Shoe

this is the game I want most in the world and they better not be fucking with me

Olivaw

Dareth Ram wrote: »

Tekkaman Blade, please.

Screw that man

Old school Tekkaman is way better

Mugenmidget

mxmarks wrote: »

The whole huge draw of MvC to me was the fact they just perfectly managed to mesh popular charecters and total random out there charecters.

Any game that has Wolverine, Spider-Man, Iron Man and Venom along side Marrow, Thanos, A Sentinel and fucking SHUMA GORATH is just beyond anything I could ever hope for. I dont care, as long as nothing is so unbalanced its broken, I'll take 300 charecters with a couple cheap ones thrown in over a small cast of perfect balance.

Plus we're in the era of the patch. People have good reason to dread them, but I'm psyched that even a potentially broken game can be primed for tourney time.

Kuribo's Shoe

I will settle for Tatsunoko vs. Capcom

I hope they can localize it somehow