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A freaking hornet invasion

fuelishfuelish Registered User regular
edited August 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
These guys:

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I believe they are European hornets. They started hanging around the door light and the lights in the shop. This made it hard to get in or out of the house and prevented working in the shop. I killed them everytime I saw them and finally hunted down the nest(Turns out it is about twenty feet from the front door.

I have doused that nest with hornet killer four times now. I spray at dusk, when they are in the nest, and usually find about 8-10 dead ones on the patio and in the shop in the morning. But they keep on coming out of the nest. Any ideas?

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    OboroOboro __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    JESUS CHRIST (sorry, I have no ideas)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hornet maybe? I'm sure you've already checked I'm just trying to make this more valid but JESUS CHRIST

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Nukes from orbit, or call an exterminator.

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    JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    fuelish wrote: »
    These guys:

    2008-07-30rat-plymouth014.jpg

    I believe they are European hornets. They started hanging around the door light and the lights in the shop. This made it hard to get in or out of the house and prevented working in the shop. I killed them everytime I saw them and finally hunted down the nest(Turns out it is about twenty feet from the front door.

    I have doused that nest with hornet killer four times now. I spray at dusk, when they are in the nest, and usually find about 8-10 dead ones on the patio and in the shop in the morning. But they keep on coming out of the nest. Any ideas?

    Douse it in alcohol or petrol and set it on fire.

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    MKRMKR Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Johannen wrote: »
    fuelish wrote: »
    These guys:

    2008-07-30rat-plymouth014.jpg

    I believe they are European hornets. They started hanging around the door light and the lights in the shop. This made it hard to get in or out of the house and prevented working in the shop. I killed them everytime I saw them and finally hunted down the nest(Turns out it is about twenty feet from the front door.

    I have doused that nest with hornet killer four times now. I spray at dusk, when they are in the nest, and usually find about 8-10 dead ones on the patio and in the shop in the morning. But they keep on coming out of the nest. Any ideas?

    Douse it in alcohol or petrol and set it on fire.

    This is really bad advice without knowing where the OP lives.

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    JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    MKR wrote: »
    Johannen wrote: »
    fuelish wrote: »
    These guys:

    [IMG ]http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q130/RightRevChuck/2008-07-30rat-plymouth014.jpg[ /IMG] I believe they are European hornets. They started hanging around the door light and the lights in the shop. This made it hard to get in or out of the house and prevented working in the shop. I killed them everytime I saw them and finally hunted down the nest(Turns out it is about twenty feet from the front door. I have doused that nest with hornet killer four times now. I spray at dusk, when they are in the nest, and usually find about 8-10 dead ones on the patio and in the shop in the morning. But they keep on coming out of the nest. Any ideas?[/img]

    Douse it in alcohol or petrol and set it on fire.

    This is really bad advice without knowing where the OP lives.

    True, the size of the Hornet nest and the fire it could create is a big factor.

    Then either call the exterminator or if it's not too big try to bag it in a sack when they're all inside, making sure to seal the top as quickly as possible. Then go throw it in a lake :P

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited August 2008
    fuelish wrote: »
    Sorry, I meant this to be in Help/Advice

    Moved.

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Try the foaming wasp killer. It hangs around for a while and will kill any hornets that return to the nest. Also, I find I get better results if I spray early, early in the morning (at about sunrise) than in the evening.

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    Satan.Satan. __BANNED USERS regular
    edited August 2008
    Gooey wrote: »
    Try the foaming wasp killer. It hangs around for a while and will kill any hornets that return to the nest. Also, I find I get better results if I spray early, early in the morning (at about sunrise) than in the evening.

    Parents had an infestation a couple years back and as they're allergic and somehow I'm not, I got to deal with it. The foam is awesome and helps trap them in their coffin that way. I don't remember what time of day it was but morning feels right to me.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    BEES ARE SCARY D:

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    LibrarianLibrarian The face of liberal fascism Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Hornets are actually not as aggressive as either wasps or bees, they are just big, and depending on where you live and if your country cares about wildlife preservation it is illegal to kill them, because they are an endangered species.

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    fuelishfuelish Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Librarian wrote: »
    Hornets are actually not as aggressive as either wasps or bees, they are just big, and depending on where you live and if your country cares about wildlife preservation it is illegal to kill them, because they are an endangered species.

    European hornets are non native, brought into the US in the 1840s. There are no hornets native to the US. Also, they kill native species, including honey bees.

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Is the nest in the ground or a tree or what? I had a friend take out a nest of hornets or yellowjackets or wasps, I forget, in the ground by going out at night when they're asleep and filling it with a huge pot of boiling water.

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    fuelishfuelish Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    These are in a tree(a really old Maple, that I have spent some time arboring to save from damage it sustained in Hurricane Fran, so I would prefer to not damage it.
    The Hornets have had their nest sprayed four times over the last ten days. They seem to still be alive, tho I keep finding dead ones in the morning.

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    CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Have you actually been stung? European hornets are pretty docile, even for wasps, and their sting is not dangerous. If I were you I'd just leave them alone.

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    Eat_FireEat_Fire Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Satan. wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Try the foaming wasp killer. It hangs around for a while and will kill any hornets that return to the nest. Also, I find I get better results if I spray early, early in the morning (at about sunrise) than in the evening.

    Parents had an infestation a couple years back and as they're allergic and somehow I'm not, I got to deal with it. The foam is awesome and helps trap them in their coffin that way. I don't remember what time of day it was but morning feels right to me.

    The foaming spray can reach up into the tree even without you having to climb, it goes something like 15ft. I have used it before on a wasps nest and it even partially melted the paper nest they have.

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    fuelishfuelish Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Have you actually been stung? European hornets are pretty docile, even for wasps, and their sting is not dangerous. If I were you I'd just leave them alone.

    So you can work on your motorcycle when there are a dozen flying around you? You are Ok with them in your house, so your cats can "play" with them? Send me your address and I will see if I can box them up and ship them to you.

    The sting may not be that bad but I have reached my max for being stung. The total is in the upper fourties between wasps, hornets, and yellow jackets. Most were single stings but two were attacks from a nest. The worst was 18 sting sites with multiple stingers left in causing several infections.

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    JNighthawkJNighthawk Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Looks like some good advice up above. Time to threadjack for a related problem!

    Spiders. I've got a bunch of spiderwebs outside my front door, including a big mean looking spider that likes to hang out above my doorway. What's the best way to go about killing them?

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    JNighthawk wrote: »
    Looks like some good advice up above. Time to threadjack for a related problem!

    Spiders. I've got a bunch of spiderwebs outside my front door, including a big mean looking spider that likes to hang out above my doorway. What's the best way to go about killing them?

    just use a broom or something. That is a million times easier to deal with than a hornet nest.

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    ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator mod
    edited August 2008
    Just so you know, stingered insects are a phobia of mine, and this picture may well be one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen. My God. Yes, a picture of a dead bee or whatever the fuck will cause involuntary shudders and the overwhelming urge to bury my monitor in the yard where it can't hurt me. Spiders? Kinda cute. Snakes? No problem. A single honeybee? Uncontrollable pants-wetting fear!!!

    On the other hand.. if you can find some way to burn or drown it, it might be better than spraying chemicals around your yard if you have any outdoor pets.

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    JohannenJohannen Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    With the spiders, just hit them with a rake or something, although you may want to watch as they can get tangled up in the rake spokes with the web and just stay there (same with brooms). I found the best one with big fuck off spiders is a hose.

    With the hornets nest i'd say turn the hose on it and if it doesn't fall out of the tree, so that you can then boil the fucker or set fire to it in the night, then do as I said before and sack that big old bastard and throw it in a lake. It's a fully possible thing to do, my dad did it to a huge wasps nest in my attic when I was about 16.

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    DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm amazed that they're surviving multiple sprayings. Hornet killer is usually super strong. Are you sure there's only one nest? maybe these are coming from somewhere else?

    I have a problem with centipedes in my apartment:
    HouseCentipede.jpg

    and they run at about 500 miles per hour. you cannot bait or trap them because they only feed on living pray. you pretty much just have to accept them. all around the web, they stress how these centipedes are harmless, and they'll eat other insects like ants and spiders, so you should ignore them. Oh, great, that makes me feel so much better - the centipedes will gorge themselves on tiny spiders, multiply and swarm all over the apartment, holding lightning speed drag races across my walls and ceilings (and probably my person also). that's exactly what I want.

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    The_Glad_HatterThe_Glad_Hatter One Sly Fox Underneath a Groovy HatRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Have you actually been stung? European hornets are pretty docile, even for wasps, and their sting is not dangerous. If I were you I'd just leave them alone.

    You CAN build up an allergy for these things if you get stung enough... or so i heard this weekend (can anyone verify that? the person i talked to claimed he turned allergic )

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    a penguina penguin Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I love the foaming wasp killer, (The Wasp Cannon, as I call it). I've taken out plenty of paper wasp nests with one, but never a hornet nest. Everyone's saying it will work though, so go for it.

    Last time I saw a dude deal with a hornet nest, he used a 20 ft long metal pole + flaming kerosene soaked rag. Not terribly safe, but it worked. Not recommended unless you're the crazy redneck type.

    edit: you can indeed become allergic to them throughout your life. Happened to one of my coworkers. She has to carry an epi-pen around and whatnot.

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm amazed that they're surviving multiple sprayings. Hornet killer is usually super strong. Are you sure there's only one nest? maybe these are coming from somewhere else?

    I have a problem with centipedes in my apartment:
    HouseCentipede.jpg

    and they run at about 500 miles per hour. you cannot bait or trap them because they only feed on living pray. you pretty much just have to accept them. all around the web, they stress how these centipedes are harmless, and they'll eat other insects like ants and spiders, so you should ignore them. Oh, great, that makes me feel so much better - the centipedes will gorge themselves on tiny spiders, multiply and swarm all over the apartment, holding lightning speed drag races across my walls and ceilings (and probably my person also). that's exactly what I want.

    aaaaaaAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHH i hate those things and i am so glad i could only see a bit when i clicked the spoiler

    uuuuggghhhhh

    they're so fucking hideous

    when i lived in an old house, they multiplied in an old sealed-off section of the basement - if you have a similar area of non-exposure, renovation can get rid of them.

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    TrillianTrillian Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Try destroying the nest.
    Knock it down, or saw off the branch into a big bucket of water.
    Get a slingshot and knock down the nest from far away with some ball bearings.
    The hornets may come out and get angry, but they won't know what's causing the damage so they'll go back inside. You could also plug the nest up with the foam spray then knock it down, sealing the little bastards inside.
    Or just use a hose to drown the nest.

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    Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    ceres wrote: »
    Just so you know, stingered insects are a phobia of mine, and this picture may well be one of the most terrifying things I've ever seen. My God. Yes, a picture of a dead bee or whatever the fuck will cause involuntary shudders and the overwhelming urge to bury my monitor in the yard where it can't hurt me. Spiders? Kinda cute. Snakes? No problem. A single honeybee? Uncontrollable pants-wetting fear!!!
    This is exactly how I am. My only real phobia is flying insects with stingers. The wonderful thing about this is that they are EVERYWHERE where I live, especially this time of year. So every weekend when I go outside to mow the lawn, I am constantly trying to dodge and run from them. I know I should just hire someone to come mow my lawn for me, but so far my stinginess has outweighed my fear. I don't know how long that will remain the case.

    For the OP, I second using the foaming spray, and I agree that the best time to use it is early morning when most of them are still in the nest. One other thing to note though is that, after it's been sprayed a couple of times, make sure you knock the nest down and get rid of it. If you don't knock it down, it doesn't matter how many times you spray it, those guys will keep coming back eventually.

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    fuelishfuelish Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Thanks. I am going to try it in the morning. I have been spraying around dusk, also supposed to be a good time. But I still see them coming out of the nest. This next time I am going to have a ladder up so I can spray into the nest rather than just at the entrance. This nest is in the hollow part of a tree, not hanging free. I am sure there is no second exit by now, so I feel OK about standing on a ladder five feet off the ground spraying the nest. Hopefully I will not break anything should I need to make a quick exit.

    The centipedes would be annoying. Not dangerous but freaky looking(Same reason I don't eat tomatoes)
    As for spiders, I have no problem with them, we have loads around here, including some huge wolf spiders with about a 5-6 inch leg span.

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    WalterWalter Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    I'm amazed that they're surviving multiple sprayings. Hornet killer is usually super strong. Are you sure there's only one nest? maybe these are coming from somewhere else?

    I have a problem with centipedes in my apartment:
    HouseCentipede.jpg

    and they run at about 500 miles per hour. you cannot bait or trap them because they only feed on living pray. you pretty much just have to accept them. all around the web, they stress how these centipedes are harmless, and they'll eat other insects like ants and spiders, so you should ignore them. Oh, great, that makes me feel so much better - the centipedes will gorge themselves on tiny spiders, multiply and swarm all over the apartment, holding lightning speed drag races across my walls and ceilings (and probably my person also). that's exactly what I want.

    My irrational fear is silverfish. I would rather live with a nest of brown recluse than have silverfish in my apartment. That picture you posted looks like satan and a silverfish had terrible spawn. I will never be the same. I would move if I were you.

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    DiscoZombieDiscoZombie Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Walter wrote: »
    I'm amazed that they're surviving multiple sprayings. Hornet killer is usually super strong. Are you sure there's only one nest? maybe these are coming from somewhere else?

    I have a problem with centipedes in my apartment:
    HouseCentipede.jpg

    and they run at about 500 miles per hour. you cannot bait or trap them because they only feed on living pray. you pretty much just have to accept them. all around the web, they stress how these centipedes are harmless, and they'll eat other insects like ants and spiders, so you should ignore them. Oh, great, that makes me feel so much better - the centipedes will gorge themselves on tiny spiders, multiply and swarm all over the apartment, holding lightning speed drag races across my walls and ceilings (and probably my person also). that's exactly what I want.

    My irrational fear is silverfish. I would rather live with a nest of brown recluse than have silverfish in my apartment. That picture you posted looks like satan and a silverfish had terrible spawn. I will never be the same. I would move if I were you.
    I did exaggerate the problem a little bit, and I kinda got desensitized to them after a while =p I've only been seeing baby ones lately, which is good because they're smaller and less scary and don't run as fast, but it's bad because it means the big ones are breeding somewhere. but really, I only see one every couple of days so it's hardly an infestation.

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    GrantGeorgeGrantGeorge Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    You say that they are European Hornets....well here's the deal European hornets as already stated by someone else are pretty chill and you should be fine. HOWEVER! BE WARNED! IF they are one of these nasty "little critters" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_giant_hornet You should run very far away.

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    KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    fuelish wrote: »
    Thanks. I am going to try it in the morning. I have been spraying around dusk, also supposed to be a good time. But I still see them coming out of the nest. This next time I am going to have a ladder up so I can spray into the nest rather than just at the entrance. This nest is in the hollow part of a tree, not hanging free. I am sure there is no second exit by now, so I feel OK about standing on a ladder five feet off the ground spraying the nest. Hopefully I will not break anything should I need to make a quick exit.

    The centipedes would be annoying. Not dangerous but freaky looking(Same reason I don't eat tomatoes)
    As for spiders, I have no problem with them, we have loads around here, including some huge wolf spiders with about a 5-6 inch leg span.
    So? How did it go? We don't have hornets here...but we have wasps. Specifically, I have mud daubers around my house. Recently I even found a few of their mud homes and crushed them with the butt end of the broom. It was pretty cool to see all the paralyzed spiders come falling out of their home that they had been building. I haven't seen them since though.

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    Big DookieBig Dookie Smells great! Houston, TXRegistered User regular
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    brandotheninjamasterbrandotheninjamaster Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    fuelish wrote: »
    The centipedes would be annoying. Not dangerous but freaky looking(Same reason I don't eat tomatoes)
    As for spiders, I have no problem with them, we have loads around here, including some huge wolf spiders with about a 5-6 inch leg span.

    Man, I used to have Wolf Spiders where I lived. I hate those fuckers! They're rather aggresive and liked to hide in my washing machine. I get the chills just thinking about them.

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    DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited August 2008
    I don't know what I was thinking opening this thread. I am scared to death of bees.

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