In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Instead of meat they usually eat...fruits and vegetables. Savages, I know.
But really, it helps explain why the U.S. has so many fucking fatties as compared to the rest of the world.
Well, that and our downright ludicrous concentration of sugar and high fructose corn syrup in foods. I've heard a lot of Europeans that say our food is almost repulsively sweet on first taste.
High fructose corn syrup isn't good for you, but really the problem is eating obscence amounts of fatty meat more than anything. You won't get obese off just corn syrup (although you certainly will if you eat enough fatty junk that contains it).
In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Instead of meat they usually eat...fruits and vegetables. Savages, I know.
But really, it helps explain why the U.S. has so many fucking fatties as compared to the rest of the world.
I'm not a "fucking fatty", but I love meat. I eat some kind of meat at almost, hell, every meal. Meat is about the only thing I like the taste of, especially rotisserie chicken.
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In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Instead of meat they usually eat...fruits and vegetables. Savages, I know.
But really, it helps explain why the U.S. has so many fucking fatties as compared to the rest of the world.
Well, that and our downright ludicrous concentration of sugar and high fructose corn syrup in foods. I've heard a lot of Europeans that say our food is almost repulsively sweet on first taste.
High fructose corn syrup isn't good for you, but really the problem is eating obscence amounts of fatty meat more than anything. You won't get obese off just corn syrup (although you certainly will if you eat enough fatty junk that contains it).
No, but you will become hypoglycemic and die of insulin shock before you turn 30.
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Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
Are you really surprised that most people eat only one serving of meat a day? I usually have meat only in dinner. What are you eating at lunch, hamburgers and sloppy joes?
Of course, I do live in the northwest, as mentioned above. And I think after reading that article I just became a vegan.
In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Instead of meat they usually eat...fruits and vegetables. Savages, I know.
But really, it helps explain why the U.S. has so many fucking fatties as compared to the rest of the world.
Well, that and our downright ludicrous concentration of sugar and high fructose corn syrup in foods. I've heard a lot of Europeans that say our food is almost repulsively sweet on first taste.
High fructose corn syrup isn't good for you, but really the problem is eating obscence amounts of fatty meat more than anything. You won't get obese off just corn syrup (although you certainly will if you eat enough fatty junk that contains it).
I'm going to have to ask for some sort of citation on that, because we've been eating shitloads of meat for decades, whereas our obesity rates correlate nigh-perfectly with our rate of consumption of HFCS.
Are you really surprised that most people eat only one serving of meat a day? I usually have meat only in dinner. What are you eating at lunch, hamburgers and sloppy joes?
Of course, I do live in the northwest, as mentioned above. And I think after reading that article I just became a vegan.
I almost always skip breakfast, and for lunch and dinner my meals almost always follow this template: meat, bean or pea, side item. It doesn't help that I'm a picky eater and don't eat things like soup or whatever else normal people eat.
In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Instead of meat they usually eat...fruits and vegetables. Savages, I know.
But really, it helps explain why the U.S. has so many fucking fatties as compared to the rest of the world.
Well, that and our downright ludicrous concentration of sugar and high fructose corn syrup in foods. I've heard a lot of Europeans that say our food is almost repulsively sweet on first taste.
High fructose corn syrup isn't good for you, but really the problem is eating obscence amounts of fatty meat more than anything. You won't get obese off just corn syrup (although you certainly will if you eat enough fatty junk that contains it).
I'm going to have to ask for some sort of citation on that, because we've been eating shitloads of meat for decades, whereas our obesity rates correlate nigh-perfectly with our rate of consumption of HFCS.
Yes, corn syrup is worse (or at least is at the rate we consume it) but at this point I think it's easier to get people to eat less meat than to get the entire U.S. food industry to change itself.
I'd love it if we could ban HFCS, but US farming has become so based around corn that at this point I'm not sure it's even an option.
Do people in other countries just not like meat for some reason?
Meat is incredibly expensive to produce in the normal world. Raising, feeding, and housing the animal consumes time, energy, and space. It's only through extreme mechanization and rows of cages slightly larger than the animal held inside them that mass meat consumption becomes econimically feasible.
High fructose corn syrup isn't good for you, but really the problem is eating obscence amounts of fatty meat more than anything. You won't get obese off just corn syrup (although you certainly will if you eat enough fatty junk that contains it).
I'm going to have to ask for some sort of citation on that, because we've been eating shitloads of meat for decades, whereas our obesity rates correlate nigh-perfectly with our rate of consumption of HFCS.
Yes, corn syrup is worse (or at least is at the rate we consume it) but at this point I think it's easier to get people to eat less meat than to get the entire U.S. food industry to change itself.
I'd love it if we could ban HFCS, but US farming has become so based around corn that at this point I'm not sure it's even an option.
End corn subsidies, and it goes away completely within a decade.
The fundamental problem is the same here as it is for pretty much every industry in the U.S.: we've created an incentive to break the law.
We need to do a ground-up re-evaluation of pretty much every regulation on the books, and we need to set the fines based not on something arbitrary, but the following:
1.5*X*1/Y=Z
Where Z is the fine, X is the amount of money that can be saved by violating the regulation, and Y is the percentage of violations we estimate we'll catch.
Issues with regulations include:
You can never hire anywhere enough competent people to police everyone. It will never ever ever be in the budget or attractive enough to enough truly useful people.
If you use fees to hire more people, it adds paperwork, weakens the economy, and increases the benefits of scoffing the law.
Compliance failure and enforcement is often handled very poorly. Think cops with traffic ticket quotas, or punishing the fuck out of people who were honestly late to the party.
Government abso-fucking-lutely sucks at informing complex regulated communities. This is especially true after something has been on the books for awhile and is no longer shiny and new and in the press.
The bigger the fine, the more incentive to dodge it, especially when a company screws up and will be unable to recover from a fine from admitting past fault and seeking to go legit.
Simply making the fine bigger doesn't do shit unless you're dealing with a very small number of regulated groups which are entirely within your jurisdiction.
Example: Many construction regulations I deal with have fine ranges up to $10,000 a day per piece of equipment. This is not the highest fine level, but it's a nice number.
Some redneck rental company with twenty 49hp/50bhp generators could be fined a million dollars a week for a regulation they very likely have never heard of or were misinformed about or tricked regarding (srsly).
They can also be arrested for it without a warrant. This shit isn't put together right.
Do people in other countries just not like meat for some reason?
Meat is incredibly expensive to produce in the normal world. Raising, feeding, and housing the animal consumes time, energy, and space. It's only through extreme mechanization and rows of cages slightly larger than the animal held inside them that mass meat consumption becomes econimically feasible.
Suddenly the plot of Dead Rising makes so much more sense to me now.
End corn subsidies, and it goes away completely within a decade.
If any presidential cantidate ever promised to do this I would vote for them in a heartbeat, for HFCS and other reasons, like megafarms exporting corn to undercut small foreign markets.
But it never will because dammit fuck the corn belt.
End corn subsidies, and it goes away completely within a decade.
If any presidential cantidate ever promised to do this I would vote for them in a heartbeat, for HFCS and other reasons.
But it never will because dammit fuck the corn belt.
What's the matter? I thought you loved vegetables! Poor corn...
Corn on the cob? Awesome.
Corn processed into sugar and then pumped excessively into everything? Pretty terrible.
Corn funded by the government so that it's so overproduced we sell it to other nations at prices so low the local economy flops and the only thing they can afford is the same cheap US corn that removed their income? REALLY FUCKING SHITTY.
End corn subsidies, and it goes away completely within a decade.
If any presidential cantidate ever promised to do this I would vote for them in a heartbeat, for HFCS and other reasons.
But it never will because dammit fuck the corn belt.
What's the matter? I thought you loved vegetables! Poor corn...
Corn belongs on my plate or possibly on my neighbor's porch during the autumn. It does not belong in my soda, my candy or my car.
I like corn on the cob but fuck ethanol and high fructose corn syrup one thousand times.
The only course of action that could possibly eliminate HFCS at this point is if somebody firebombed a ton of cornfields, but that would cause a lot more problems than it would solve.
End corn subsidies, and it goes away completely within a decade.
If any presidential cantidate ever promised to do this I would vote for them in a heartbeat, for HFCS and other reasons.
But it never will because dammit fuck the corn belt.
What's the matter? I thought you loved vegetables! Poor corn...
Corn on the cob? Awesome.
Corn processed into sugar and then pumped excessively into everything? Pretty terrible.
Corn funded by the government so that it's so overproduced we sell it to other nations at prices so low the local economy flops and the only thing they can afford is the same cheap US corn that removed their income? REALLY FUCKING SHITTY.
Yeah, eutrophication and algal bloom absolutely fucking destroy aquatic biosystems and the surrounding riparian zones, which of course, in turn destroys everything in a fucking eco system. Argh. I used to not be so angry about this stuff until I learned that the Chesapeake Bay used to be one of the top 10 most biodiverse areas in the world, not to mention the best estuary. Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaar. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Do people in other countries just not like meat for some reason? I'm trying to understand here.
Its about income, honey :P veggies are cheap, and require less careful processing in most cases. Its cultural, too - foreign recipes just use different proportions of ingredients. Its probably important to note that 'traditional' western cuisine has changed a lot more, and still changes all the time, compared to the traditional foods of many other places. Its adapted to take advantage of what's available for how much in the modern supermarket.
To really blow your mind, one 'serving' of meat is a really small chunk - like 120-150g.
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ZimmydoomAccept no substitutesRegistered Userregular
In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Do people in other countries just not like meat for some reason? I'm trying to understand here.
Its about income, honey :P veggies are cheap, and require less careful processing in most cases. Its cultural, too - foreign recipes just use different proportions of ingredients. Its probably important to note that 'traditional' western cuisine has changed a lot more, and still changes all the time, compared to the traditional foods of many other places. Its adapted to take advantage of what's available for how much in the modern supermarket.
To really blow your mind, one 'serving' of meat is a really small chunk - like 120-150g.
That's 4-5 oz. for us godless 'Mercans. Precooked weight.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
What's the matter? I thought you loved vegetables! Poor corn...
Corn is not a vegetable.
Its important at this point to note that the corn grown for processing is nothing like the sweetcorn you eat off the cob. Its a very different variety, and almost totally inedible in its natural form. A commodity-corn farm isn't really a farm, per se. Its basically a starch mine.
Fun fact: corn flakes, along with graham crackers, were invented in the early 20th C to be part of a fad diet that was designed to suppress the libido and hamper the evils of masturbation among the youth by the sheer power of blandness!
In most countries you have a serving of meat a day at most.
*head explodes* Really? Really? Man, that seems entirely alien to me.
Do people in other countries just not like meat for some reason? I'm trying to understand here.
Its about income, honey :P veggies are cheap, and require less careful processing in most cases. Its cultural, too - foreign recipes just use different proportions of ingredients. Its probably important to note that 'traditional' western cuisine has changed a lot more, and still changes all the time, compared to the traditional foods of many other places. Its adapted to take advantage of what's available for how much in the modern supermarket.
To really blow your mind, one 'serving' of meat is a really small chunk - like 120-150g.
That's 4-5 oz. for us godless 'Mercans. Precooked weight.
Indeed, thanks. A lump the size of your palm at most, unless you have freak hands.
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Fun fact: corn flakes, along with graham crackers, were invented in the early 20th C to be part of a fad diet that was designed to suppress the libido and hamper the evils of masturbation among the youth by the sheer power of blandness!
Yeah but then the non-crazy Kellogg brother added sugar and they never spoke again.
Or something. It's been a while since I saw the History Channel special where the origins of cornflakes as a foodstuff was all laid out. There was actually a really bad movie made about it too, starring Anthony Hopkins as J. H. Kellogg. "The Road to Wellville" I think.
Zimmydoom, Zimmydoom
Flew away in a balloon
Had sex with polar bears
While sitting in a reclining chair
Now there are Zim-Bear hybrids
Running around and clawing eyelids
Watch out, a Zim-Bear is about to have sex with yooooooou!
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Are you really surprised that most people eat only one serving of meat a day? I usually have meat only in dinner. What are you eating at lunch, hamburgers and sloppy joes?
Of course, I do live in the northwest, as mentioned above. And I think after reading that article I just became a vegan.
I almost always skip breakfast, and for lunch and dinner my meals almost always follow this template: meat, bean or pea, side item. It doesn't help that I'm a picky eater and don't eat things like soup or whatever else normal people eat.
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High fructose corn syrup isn't good for you, but really the problem is eating obscence amounts of fatty meat more than anything. You won't get obese off just corn syrup (although you certainly will if you eat enough fatty junk that contains it).
I'm not a "fucking fatty", but I love meat. I eat some kind of meat at almost, hell, every meal. Meat is about the only thing I like the taste of, especially rotisserie chicken.
No, but you will become hypoglycemic and die of insulin shock before you turn 30.
Of course, I do live in the northwest, as mentioned above. And I think after reading that article I just became a vegan.
I almost always skip breakfast, and for lunch and dinner my meals almost always follow this template: meat, bean or pea, side item. It doesn't help that I'm a picky eater and don't eat things like soup or whatever else normal people eat.
Yes, corn syrup is worse (or at least is at the rate we consume it) but at this point I think it's easier to get people to eat less meat than to get the entire U.S. food industry to change itself.
I'd love it if we could ban HFCS, but US farming has become so based around corn that at this point I'm not sure it's even an option.
Meat is incredibly expensive to produce in the normal world. Raising, feeding, and housing the animal consumes time, energy, and space. It's only through extreme mechanization and rows of cages slightly larger than the animal held inside them that mass meat consumption becomes econimically feasible.
Issues with regulations include:
You can never hire anywhere enough competent people to police everyone. It will never ever ever be in the budget or attractive enough to enough truly useful people.
If you use fees to hire more people, it adds paperwork, weakens the economy, and increases the benefits of scoffing the law.
Compliance failure and enforcement is often handled very poorly. Think cops with traffic ticket quotas, or punishing the fuck out of people who were honestly late to the party.
Government abso-fucking-lutely sucks at informing complex regulated communities. This is especially true after something has been on the books for awhile and is no longer shiny and new and in the press.
The bigger the fine, the more incentive to dodge it, especially when a company screws up and will be unable to recover from a fine from admitting past fault and seeking to go legit.
Simply making the fine bigger doesn't do shit unless you're dealing with a very small number of regulated groups which are entirely within your jurisdiction.
Example: Many construction regulations I deal with have fine ranges up to $10,000 a day per piece of equipment. This is not the highest fine level, but it's a nice number.
Some redneck rental company with twenty 49hp/50bhp generators could be fined a million dollars a week for a regulation they very likely have never heard of or were misinformed about or tricked regarding (srsly).
They can also be arrested for it without a warrant. This shit isn't put together right.
Suddenly the plot of Dead Rising makes so much more sense to me now.
If any presidential cantidate ever promised to do this I would vote for them in a heartbeat, for HFCS and other reasons, like megafarms exporting corn to undercut small foreign markets.
But it never will because dammit fuck the corn belt.
What's the matter? I thought you loved vegetables! Poor corn...
Corn belongs on my plate or possibly on my neighbor's porch during the autumn. It does not belong in my soda, my candy or my car.
I like corn on the cob but fuck ethanol and high fructose corn syrup one thousand times.
Corn on the cob? Awesome.
Corn processed into sugar and then pumped excessively into everything? Pretty terrible.
Corn funded by the government so that it's so overproduced we sell it to other nations at prices so low the local economy flops and the only thing they can afford is the same cheap US corn that removed their income? REALLY FUCKING SHITTY.
The only course of action that could possibly eliminate HFCS at this point is if somebody firebombed a ton of cornfields, but that would cause a lot more problems than it would solve.
So, I for one welcome our corn overlords...
Corn is not a vegetable.
America: We're the good guys. Really.
Oh, yeah, that's right. Oops!
...or your ketchup, cereal, bread, cough syrup, crackers, soup, etc. etc. etc: CORN IS TAKING OVER THE WORLD (or at least the united states)
What would corn flakes be without corn?
They would be sad.
I guess cereal can have corn in the form of flakes. But corn flakes with corn syrup is corn OVERKILL.
Healthy.
At least I know not to drink the water.
You thought we'd stop with Montezuma's revenge?
We also gave you potatoes to keep your Irish and Russians drunk, and chocolate to make you morbidly obese.
TASTE OUR WRATH (it's delicious!)
Thanks a lot, Tonto... :x
I do eat a lot of chicken and beef though.
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Almost this exact comment has been made already. In fact, it was made better.
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Its about income, honey :P veggies are cheap, and require less careful processing in most cases. Its cultural, too - foreign recipes just use different proportions of ingredients. Its probably important to note that 'traditional' western cuisine has changed a lot more, and still changes all the time, compared to the traditional foods of many other places. Its adapted to take advantage of what's available for how much in the modern supermarket.
To really blow your mind, one 'serving' of meat is a really small chunk - like 120-150g.
That's 4-5 oz. for us godless 'Mercans. Precooked weight.
Its important at this point to note that the corn grown for processing is nothing like the sweetcorn you eat off the cob. Its a very different variety, and almost totally inedible in its natural form. A commodity-corn farm isn't really a farm, per se. Its basically a starch mine.
Fun fact: corn flakes, along with graham crackers, were invented in the early 20th C to be part of a fad diet that was designed to suppress the libido and hamper the evils of masturbation among the youth by the sheer power of blandness!
Indeed, thanks. A lump the size of your palm at most, unless you have freak hands.
Yeah but then the non-crazy Kellogg brother added sugar and they never spoke again.
Or something. It's been a while since I saw the History Channel special where the origins of cornflakes as a foodstuff was all laid out. There was actually a really bad movie made about it too, starring Anthony Hopkins as J. H. Kellogg. "The Road to Wellville" I think.
You are going to die.