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Agreed. You can't have GI Joe and put them all in black leather and call it good. Fucking do GI Joe... I want my Roadblock in a Lime Green vest and my Bar-B-Q in an Orange jumpsuit with a metal helmet for some fucking reason.
God I hate Hollywood sometimes... er... all the time.
I bet you hated the new Transformers movie.
It's a Michael Bay movie... the only way he's ever getting my money is if he mugs me on the street.
But hey, since you seem to like making broad assumptions, how about a comparison? The new GI Joe movie would be like making the transformers, but having every single one transform into a Prius.
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When I was a little kid, I always pretended I was the hero,' Skip said.
'Fuck yeah, me too. What little kid ever pretended to be part of the lynch-mob?'
I watched Spider-Man 3 a couple of months ago (I was bored) and remembered still liking it, especially after I watched the commentary from the cast/crew. Besides a few hi jinks, I still don't understand why most people dislike this film.
Max Payne and Max Payne 2 were both so good. Why did the movie have to suck.
If they had left out all the crazy demonic crap and just made it a gritty noir movie like the games are, it would've been much better. The games didn't have harpies or demons, so why did they add that shit to the movie?
I watched Spider-Man 3 a couple of months ago (I was bored) and remembered still liking it, especially after I watched the commentary from the cast/crew. Besides a few hi jinks, I still don't understand why most people dislike this film.
So have people given up on Lucy Lawless (the xena lady) being Wonder Woman now?
Pfft, she's forty.
Also, I don't think she did a good job in New Frontier.
She had like, 9 lines during the whole movie. Actually, Batman, Superman nor Wonder Woman did much in that movie.
That's because Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman aren't a big part of the graphic novel. Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, and J'onn J'onzz are the main characters of New Frontier.
I watched Spider-Man 3 a couple of months ago (I was bored) and remembered still liking it, especially after I watched the commentary from the cast/crew. Besides a few hi jinks, I still don't understand why most people dislike this film.
Well, it's not a horrible movie by any chance, but it had two things going against it. 1) It didn't use the villains properly, and more importantly, 2) it came after Spider-Man 2, which was just such a jump from the first one, that people were expecting similar things.
I can still remember most of the train fight between Spidey and Dock Ock. I really can't remember any of the set pieces for the third one.
I watched Spider-Man 3 a couple of months ago (I was bored) and remembered still liking it, especially after I watched the commentary from the cast/crew. Besides a few hi jinks, I still don't understand why most people dislike this film.
Well, it's not a horrible movie by any chance, but it had two things going against it. 1) It didn't use the villains properly, and more importantly, 2) it came after Spider-Man 2, which was just such a jump from the first one, that people were expecting similar things.
I can still remember most of the train fight between Spidey and Dock Ock. I really can't remember any of the set pieces for the third one.
Not to go off on a whole tangent but hte entire film fucking stunk and was filled with some of the stupidest writing I've ever come across, and I've watched House of the Dead 1 and 2.
- They had a perfect set up from the animated series considering they introduced the astronaut boyfriend in the last one but no, the suit arrives by meteor mere feet away from Spider-Man who doesn't sense a god-damn thing.
- It attaches itself to his costume and yet replicates teh mask yet he can take his mask off (as part of his freaking exhibitionism) as if its made of material, despite this when he ends up tearing it off, theres nothing underneath.
- It just makes you agressive, its not sentient, not anything, its just makes you aggressive and negative for no reason.
- The stupid dance number
- Hitting MJ being the catalyst for removal rather than any other number of non MJ related things since every fucking thing relates to MJ in the films, again the animated series did this better, which is sad.
- Venoms god awful lines and crappy innuendos and constant screaming plus the 'scream-hitwithblockturnandscream-spidermansarmisfreedandgrabsvenomandvenomturnsandscreamsforathirdtimein5seconds' thing.
- The third of 3 films to feature MJ being kidnapped as the finale
- The retcon of Uncle Bens murder for no reason other than to cover for the inability to give him any kind of emotional attachment to Spider-Man otherwise.
- The killing of the suit and Eddie Brock (which is murder, I don't care what you say)
- THe crowd of onlookers and police just stood there as Spider-Man and the NEW (Yes the NEW) Goblin fight a giant made of sand and an evil Spider-Man while JJ has a comedic scene interspersed with what is MEANT to be a dramatic scene.
- The introduction of Gwen for no reason other than to make MJ jealous momentarily.
- General mistreatment of the villains, particularly Venom
- The killing of a third big villain in Spider-Mans rogue gallery.
- General bad dialogue and story problems.
Seriously, the other 2 were mediocre films held up by being Spider-Man films but Spider-Man 3 was just bad, I was embarassed to watch it and wanted it to end, I haven't watched it since. The only thing it did right was the scene near the end where Spider-Man is tied up and Eddie is about to stab him and after Peter tries to convince him that the suit is trying to control him, Eddie replies:
"I like being bad...it makes me happy"
Oh and
-They wasted Topher Grace, the perfect replacement for permanently-looks-constipated Maguire on pretty much a throw away role.
The Batman films (new) have done an excellent job of including low level and recurring villains into the films. They could include Rhino or the Shocker without it requiring some dramatic back story that has to be tied to Spider-Man. As far as I can tell, all that happens is a super vilain shows up, Spider-Man leads him to his death and thats it for 2-3 years where he just runs around fighting regular crime that the cops can deal with. And he does this at the expense of his own life.
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- Sandman was created by climbing a low fence that I don't recall having barbed wire, falling into a super science pit who deem noticable changes (that they feel are worth monitoring but not viewing with fucking cameras) as PROBABLY pigeons and so what the fuck, turn on the super science machine. I'd take sunbathing on the beach while a dumped canister of radioactive ooze leaks nearby over that shit.
I was really annoyed that they didn't use the simplest, clearest method of showing why the suit was dangerous: You have him beat the shit of some people. Like, it should have just been "wow, this is great! It transforms to street clothes, it makes me stronger, I feel less pain, it doesn't give me a wedgie..." and then during a fight with some random muggers he beats a guy almost to death. Then he goes "ok, that was a bit out of control, maybe this suit isn't all good".
Instead we get bits of Peter Parker's life, which is only tangentially affected by the suit, and they are the stupidest goddamn bits.
The best thing about Spider-man 3 was Thomas Hayden Church. He could(and SHOULD) have been the main villain, marketability be damned. Even though his origin was horribly contrived, the scene where he is emerging from the sand, trying to reconstruct himself and vainly trying to grab his picture, almost made me cry. Almost.
Max Payne and Max Payne 2 were both so good. Why did the movie have to suck.
If they had left out all the crazy demonic crap and just made it a gritty noir movie like the games are, it would've been much better. The games didn't have harpies or demons, so why did they add that shit to the movie?
Too much Grit, not nearly enough Noir and took itself far too seriously.
That's the one moment in Spider-Man 3 that I unreservedly love. The crane scene was pretty cool too though.
but what about how's the pie?
that is the best scene
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Spider-Dance is the best scene, and all of you who didn't like it can just do something horribly painful to yourselves. Even if you sat through the whole movie silently screaming to yourself, "It should be better than this!" you need to go back, watch it again, and appreciate the complete absurdity of the Spider-Dance.
Wait, what did you like about Spider-Man 1 that wasn't improved in Spider-Man 2?
He didn't cry as much
Also, I didn't get to see 2 until it was out on DVD and the whole time before it people were telling me it was amazing and the best comic book movie and I really didn't like it much at all
Max Payne and Max Payne 2 were both so good. Why did the movie have to suck.
If they had left out all the crazy demonic crap and just made it a gritty noir movie like the games are, it would've been much better. The games didn't have harpies or demons, so why did they add that shit to the movie?
Too much Grit, not nearly enough Noir and took itself far too seriously.
Also, for a pair of games that involve killing half the criminal population of New York, there are shamefully few gunfights. Like... 2 of them across a 100 minute film. I know they were trying to avoid a horrible rating that would've pigeonholed an already pigeonholed film, but it struck me as less "Max Payne: The Movie" and more "A Movie Set In The Max Payne Universe, Or, Like, Tangentally Related To It."
Also, I agree SM3 was pretty bad. The action sequences and effects were great, as expected, but it was either too long or full of too much stupid shit. A re-write of a few choices or just trimming the film of some of the fat probably would've helped. Phantom Edit style.
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It's a Michael Bay movie... the only way he's ever getting my money is if he mugs me on the street.
But hey, since you seem to like making broad assumptions, how about a comparison? The new GI Joe movie would be like making the transformers, but having every single one transform into a Prius.
Oh this movie is going to be a huge let down.
I bet it's absolute amazing perfect shots mixed with absolute crap that would have been "ok" if it hadn't been GI Joe.
the sequel looks 10 times better
so jazzed
yeah but that's because you don't get Max Hazzard
Well that didn't last long
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If i'm not mistaken, the kid is Snyder's kid, the same on that played young Leonidas.
Ya...she is alright :winky:
She had like, 9 lines during the whole movie. Actually, Batman, Superman nor Wonder Woman did much in that movie.
Now there's a game!. I mean, it's based off the movie version, but it looks like it might be fun.
Then again I'm a whore for any game with bullet-time and it's been a very long time since Stranglehold or Max Payne 2.
If they had left out all the crazy demonic crap and just made it a gritty noir movie like the games are, it would've been much better. The games didn't have harpies or demons, so why did they add that shit to the movie?
That's because Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman aren't a big part of the graphic novel. Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, and J'onn J'onzz are the main characters of New Frontier.
Well, it's not a horrible movie by any chance, but it had two things going against it. 1) It didn't use the villains properly, and more importantly, 2) it came after Spider-Man 2, which was just such a jump from the first one, that people were expecting similar things.
I can still remember most of the train fight between Spidey and Dock Ock. I really can't remember any of the set pieces for the third one.
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
Not to go off on a whole tangent but hte entire film fucking stunk and was filled with some of the stupidest writing I've ever come across, and I've watched House of the Dead 1 and 2.
- They had a perfect set up from the animated series considering they introduced the astronaut boyfriend in the last one but no, the suit arrives by meteor mere feet away from Spider-Man who doesn't sense a god-damn thing.
- It attaches itself to his costume and yet replicates teh mask yet he can take his mask off (as part of his freaking exhibitionism) as if its made of material, despite this when he ends up tearing it off, theres nothing underneath.
- It just makes you agressive, its not sentient, not anything, its just makes you aggressive and negative for no reason.
- The stupid dance number
- Hitting MJ being the catalyst for removal rather than any other number of non MJ related things since every fucking thing relates to MJ in the films, again the animated series did this better, which is sad.
- Venoms god awful lines and crappy innuendos and constant screaming plus the 'scream-hitwithblockturnandscream-spidermansarmisfreedandgrabsvenomandvenomturnsandscreamsforathirdtimein5seconds' thing.
- The third of 3 films to feature MJ being kidnapped as the finale
- The retcon of Uncle Bens murder for no reason other than to cover for the inability to give him any kind of emotional attachment to Spider-Man otherwise.
- The killing of the suit and Eddie Brock (which is murder, I don't care what you say)
- THe crowd of onlookers and police just stood there as Spider-Man and the NEW (Yes the NEW) Goblin fight a giant made of sand and an evil Spider-Man while JJ has a comedic scene interspersed with what is MEANT to be a dramatic scene.
- The introduction of Gwen for no reason other than to make MJ jealous momentarily.
- General mistreatment of the villains, particularly Venom
- The killing of a third big villain in Spider-Mans rogue gallery.
- General bad dialogue and story problems.
Seriously, the other 2 were mediocre films held up by being Spider-Man films but Spider-Man 3 was just bad, I was embarassed to watch it and wanted it to end, I haven't watched it since. The only thing it did right was the scene near the end where Spider-Man is tied up and Eddie is about to stab him and after Peter tries to convince him that the suit is trying to control him, Eddie replies:
"I like being bad...it makes me happy"
Oh and
-They wasted Topher Grace, the perfect replacement for permanently-looks-constipated Maguire on pretty much a throw away role.
The Batman films (new) have done an excellent job of including low level and recurring villains into the films. They could include Rhino or the Shocker without it requiring some dramatic back story that has to be tied to Spider-Man. As far as I can tell, all that happens is a super vilain shows up, Spider-Man leads him to his death and thats it for 2-3 years where he just runs around fighting regular crime that the cops can deal with. And he does this at the expense of his own life.
EDIT:
- Sandman was created by climbing a low fence that I don't recall having barbed wire, falling into a super science pit who deem noticable changes (that they feel are worth monitoring but not viewing with fucking cameras) as PROBABLY pigeons and so what the fuck, turn on the super science machine. I'd take sunbathing on the beach while a dumped canister of radioactive ooze leaks nearby over that shit.
Instead we get bits of Peter Parker's life, which is only tangentially affected by the suit, and they are the stupidest goddamn bits.
And they wasted Gwen Stacy.
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Too much Grit, not nearly enough Noir and took itself far too seriously.
but what about how's the pie?
that is the best scene
That is pretty much it, though. Spider-Man 2 was really the only good movie of the bunch, if you ask me.
The only thing I really liked in 2 was Doc Ock
Wait, what did you like about Spider-Man 1 that wasn't improved in Spider-Man 2?
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
"I... loved your father, like... I love you.... He killed himself, it wasn't Spider-man after all."
You couldn't have told me this before I ruined my face?!
https://twitter.com/Hooraydiation
He didn't cry as much
Also, I didn't get to see 2 until it was out on DVD and the whole time before it people were telling me it was amazing and the best comic book movie and I really didn't like it much at all
Also, for a pair of games that involve killing half the criminal population of New York, there are shamefully few gunfights. Like... 2 of them across a 100 minute film. I know they were trying to avoid a horrible rating that would've pigeonholed an already pigeonholed film, but it struck me as less "Max Payne: The Movie" and more "A Movie Set In The Max Payne Universe, Or, Like, Tangentally Related To It."
Also, I agree SM3 was pretty bad. The action sequences and effects were great, as expected, but it was either too long or full of too much stupid shit. A re-write of a few choices or just trimming the film of some of the fat probably would've helped. Phantom Edit style.