Anyone heard of Xenos?

Capt. AwesomeCapt. Awesome Registered User regular
edited September 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
Given that I live in Columbus, OH, and I go to this weird school, I've had lots of exposure to this semi-cult known as Xenos. They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily, and some of their ideals aren't very christian (I don't think Jesus hated Jews). I've had multiple friends converted to this.. thing, and they haven't been the same since. They are extremely defensive about Xenos; almost to the point of fanaticism; or at least that's what I've seen. Anyway, I have a few questions:

1. Does it exist anywhere else? No one I've talked to knows.

2. What are the differences from regular Christianity? My friends in it get defensive, and my friend Abe, who's dad is in Xenos, just says that they are "fucking Jew-haters" (He's Jewish)

3. Anything else?

I'm just a little freaked out by this being so popular, and how the people in it love it so. They even say that "regular church didn't work", but they're heavily into Xenos

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Literally the first result when you goggle Xenos.

    Seem to be a local religious organization in Columbus, though I doubt you'll find much objective information on their website.

    edit: I don't know much (anything) about evangelical groups, and this isn't meant to sound ominous, but they seem really well organized for a church that only has a weekly attendance of 4500 (so they claim).

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, it looks like they have a website.

    http://www.xenos.org/

    Other than that link all I got from the one line wiki entry was that they are based in and around Columbus, so calling them a semi-cult seems like an accurate term. It looks like on their website they have plenty of essays and teaching tools so if you want to see what they're teaching people, look into that. Since they're an evangelical Christian sect, I'm sure they're rather forthcoming about any sort of conservative leanings they might have.

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  • TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Infiltrate and report back.

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  • nescientistnescientist Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, they're evil. And not in the sense that all scriptural literalist religions are evil, i mean these guys are seriously twisted.

    ...they use RealPlayer.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Well, they're evil. And not in the sense that all scriptural literalist religions are evil, i mean these guys are seriously twisted.

    ...they use RealPlayer.

    Yeah I noticed that too. I guess it's to prevent intellectuals from investigating too deeply.

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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    It took me about ten minutes of staring at the screen to decide not to do exactly that. :P

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Oh ha they're Xenophobic. I get it.

    No seriously this is the first I've heard of it. Bear in mind cults prey on people who have nothing. Your friends are defensive because they're told Xeno(s?) is all they have to live for. It's pretty effective with the right kind of minor torture( sleep deprivation and the like).

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  • FCDFCD Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Also, suffer not the mutant to live!

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  • SpongeCakeSpongeCake Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Who the fuck would join a religion called "Xenos"?

    I mean seriously.

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  • trantramptrantramp Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Heretics.

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  • Evil-PantsEvil-Pants Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Fucking genestealers, kill them all! Blood for the blood god, Skulls for the skull throne!

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Is this cult really calling itself "outsiders"? Really?

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  • evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Sounds a bit Peoples Temple to me, although with the opposite opinion of racism. Don't let your friends move to Guyana.

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  • CojonesCojones Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Check it out.

    Cowards die in shame!

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited August 2008
    Drez wrote: »
    Is this cult really calling itself "outsiders"? Really?
    To be fair, they're all about leather jackets and rumblin' with the socs.

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  • Lynx992Lynx992 Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Hello, I am teh Abe from the first post.

    My dad is the fucking cfo of the church and he has "dedicated his life to the church".

    Being a Jew, naturally, he FORCED me to go to Xenos. At one point the choice was X-Box versus going to church for 2 hours and another was I will spank you (I was young). Of course I went and was singled out for a couple reasons:

    1. I was a Jew. Yeah, I was Jew at a xenophobic center for the Christian right.
    2. I wouldn't participate. See number 1. (this includes not singing songs like: You are dead! and I love Jesus!)
    3. I am insane. Pretty much. But I can pass for sane most places. In that church I couldn't. Everyone was the fucking same. You see those McDonald houses in the suburbs? The ones that all look alike? Yeah do that with people on antidepressants.

    But now we get into the reasons why they are insane instead of me:
    4. They are dedicated to a church, not a religion. This means all friends MUST be a Xenoid. All activities outside of Xenos must be related to Xenos.
    5. Since all Xenoids know each other and are always around each other, they tend to gossip, play petty games and socialize only with those truly dedicated to the church.
    6. Xenoids are only concerned with Xenos. This includes things like: money (that could have gone to my education), social status within Xenos (not surprisingly, based on money) and faith.

    Xenos is a twisted religious "sect" (see cult) that only is concerned with, well, lets leave it to what they are NOT concerned with:







    Christianity


    EDIT: Compare the videos of two cults: Xenos's offshoot site. & Scientology.

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Xenos must be purged!

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Lynx992 wrote: »
    EDIT: Compare the videos of two cults: Xenos's offshoot site. & Scientology.
    Xenos vs. Xenu

    FIGHT!!!

    Fringe cults like this, especially one's that try to consider themselves a sect of an already established religion, tend to burn out and never go anywhere, with a few exceptions.

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  • evilbobevilbob RADELAIDERegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Dalboz wrote: »
    Lynx992 wrote: »
    EDIT: Compare the videos of two cults: Xenos's offshoot site. & Scientology.
    Xenos vs. Xenu

    FIGHT!!!

    Fringe cults like this, especially one's that try to consider themselves a sect of an already established religion, tend to burn out and never go anywhere, with a few exceptions.
    Like when they result in the second highest American civilian death toll not caused by natural disaster?

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  • Mhm.Mhm. Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    My first thought was Scientology, lol.
    Isn't there a character name Xenos or something in it?

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily

    Serious, how the frell does this happen?

    I have enough trouble understanding how the Big Ones get converts, how do obviously retarded idiotfests like this gain any traction with people?

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily

    Serious, how the frell does this happen?

    I have enough trouble understanding how the Big Ones get converts, how do obviously retarded idiotfests like this gain any traction with people?

    Probably for the same reasons that people so readily adopt make-believe space languages into their everyday lexicon. They feel special being part of something. It's called Tribalism, dearies.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily

    Serious, how the frell does this happen?

    I have enough trouble understanding how the Big Ones get converts, how do obviously retarded idiotfests like this gain any traction with people?

    Man, didn't you grow up in rural NSW?

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily

    Serious, how the frell does this happen?

    I have enough trouble understanding how the Big Ones get converts, how do obviously retarded idiotfests like this gain any traction with people?

    Man, didn't you grow up in rural NSW?
    I did.

    It wasn't so much converts to crazy spin-off cults or even converts from one religion to another, but just loads of churchies all together hugging themselves and complaining about brothels and adult book shops.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    yeah, but the level of idiocy is roughly equivalent. All you need beyond that is a smidgen more social isolation and a grudge against the local mainstream religious alternatives, or more accurately one or more of the people in that community.

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It's the conversion that weirds me out.

    The conversion. This, I do not understand.

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  • QliphothQliphoth Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    The Cat wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily

    Serious, how the frell does this happen?

    I have enough trouble understanding how the Big Ones get converts, how do obviously retarded idiotfests like this gain any traction with people?

    Man, didn't you grow up in rural NSW?

    a bit rich coming from the state where one nation got 22% of the vote :P

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  • SzechuanosaurusSzechuanosaurus Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited September 2008
    Like I said before, tribalism. Most people who join mainstream religions or crazy lala cults don't do it because they feel a strong spiritual motivation or find their religious doctrine logical and compelling, they do it because they have an instinctive prerogative to find a group and attach to it; to be accepted by other humans. It isn't even a question of finding 'like-minded' people; you become 'like-minded' through continued proximity.

    The very fact that this group calls themselves 'outsiders' highlights the fact that they are preying on people who feel they are detached from mainstream society. Easy pickings, in other words. Perhaps converts from other religions weren't being sufficiently served socially by their local representative of their church and they sought out a church that gets more involved in their social lives (it sounds like Xenos is extremely invasive in this regard). Or perhaps they didn't fit with the other people already going to that church, convinced themselves it was a religious division rather than their own awkward social skills and then fell into a new church with less conventional social stratification.

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  • TheBakernatorTheBakernator Registered User new member
    Given that I live in Columbus, OH, and I go to this weird school, I've had lots of exposure to this semi-cult known as Xenos. They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily, and some of their ideals aren't very christian (I don't think Jesus hated Jews). I've had multiple friends converted to this.. thing, and they haven't been the same since. They are extremely defensive about Xenos; almost to the point of fanaticism; or at least that's what I've seen. Anyway, I have a few questions:

    1. Does it exist anywhere else? No one I've talked to knows.

    2. What are the differences from regular Christianity? My friends in it get defensive, and my friend Abe, who's dad is in Xenos, just says that they are "fucking Jew-haters" (He's Jewish)

    3. Anything else?

    I'm just a little freaked out by this being so popular, and how the people in it love it so. They even say that "regular church didn't work", but they're heavily into Xenos

    I am aware this is old but i was forced to research them recently through an ex who was part of it and have attended services. they are a church that "supports gay" and the congregation is all recovering coke heads or alcoholics half the time. they all seem to believe that god can help teach you to not be whatever you are. I.E. jew, gay, coke head, druggy, stoner, etcetc

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    They consider themselves to be a branch of Christianity, but they suck people in very easily

    Serious, how the frell does this happen?

    I have enough trouble understanding how the Big Ones get converts, how do obviously retarded idiotfests like this gain any traction with people?

    Love-bombing seems effective, if all else fails.

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    What are the Xenos?


    To be Unclean. That is the Mark of the Xenos.

    To be Impure. That is the Mark of the Xenos.

    To be Abhorred. That is the Mark of the Xenos.

    To be Reviled. That is the Mark of the Xenos.

    To be Hunted. That is the Mark of the Xenos.

    To be Purged. That is the fate of the Xenos.

    To be Cleansed. For that is the fate of all Xenos.


    Extract from the Third Book of Indoctrinations


    Their website is hilariously bad.
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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    ha this thread

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    ha this thread

    i miss the cat :(

    I did a double-take when I saw her post. Then I realized it was from 2008.

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  • DasUberEdwardDasUberEdward Registered User regular
    SpongeCake wrote: »
    Who the fuck would join a religion called "Xenos"?

    I mean seriously.

    Xenophobic people?

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Wasn't Xeno the founder of the Stoic school of philosophy?

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited July 2013
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Wasn't Xeno the founder of the Stoic school of philosophy?

    Zeno was pre-Socratic, so no. I think Marcus Aurelius is generally considered the founder of Stoicism but I may be wrong.

    Edit: Apparently there was more than one Zeno, and the second one founded Stoicism. The first one is the guy that came up with all the paradoxes.

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  • Gandalf_the_CrazedGandalf_the_Crazed Vigilo ConfidoRegistered User regular
    A set of concepts constructed by a man named Zeno, such that they are self-contradictory?

    Would that be a...Zeno Clash?

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    I was all excited for this thread because I thought it had something to do with the Xeno games.

  • khmtkhmt Registered User new member
    I go to xenos and in no way is it a cult. I've never met someone in xenos who hates Jews and every teaching I've ever heard is about what the bible teaches and only that. The main difference between xenos and other churches is that we have homechurches which is a group of typically 15-40 people where we get together and have a teaching. It's better because we get to have closer more loving relationships with more people our age rather than having a teaching in a church on Sundays with a large variety of people. Most people are drawn in because they feel closer and more accepted in this style of church. It may seem more closed off and cult-like but we live by the bible and no other special rules.

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