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This is exactly what I'm arguing against. There exist competitive games where even given a gargantuan advantage, the underdog still has a fighting chance. There is no reason WoW pvp brackets should not also be this way.
Correct, and in actual competitive leagues, those "terrible" seasons are still at a ~30% winning level. That is what makes the leagues competitive.
They are very seperate, but I'm curious if "the ends justify the means" extends beyond slapping a 12 stam enchant on level 38 boots or not.
The school I went to has no bearing on twinking either, but he felt free to ask that out of left field all the same.
PS: I'm 28. I'm way beyond that "not keeping score because it might hurt someone's feelings" bullshit.
Um...they are this way.
Just because you roll over and play dead when you see a twink doesn't mean everyone else has to.
It's the same difference.
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Funny, they tried that with the arenas.
People have been breaking it for every season since, or so I hear. I gave up during the bullshit that was S3.
Do you really believe that anyone has a fighting chance against a character with 3 times the hitpoints, 50% avoidance, 5 times the crit chance, double the weapon damage, and a run speed increase*? Maybe if the twink is a gerbil with no paws, sure.
*all made up numbers.
EDIT: God, arenas. Blizzard really dropped the ball. Personal rating, teams matched up based on average or weighted average or something similar, never resets. Done, problems solved. Douchebags can come down and tear your shit up if they want, but only if they lose as many games as they win, since they will otherwise be matched up against similarly skilled/geared opponents. There is no reason to allow a reset, since when your rating is low, you'll play worse teams and it will go up. Seriously, why did they make it complicated? That's what the whole point/rating system thing they use was designed for in the first place!
Perhaps I need [sarcasm] tags?
Has to work. Has to.
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They are that way. The players just aren't as smart as your sports teams. They do have every opportunity to gear themselves out, or with your sports analogy, look for the best players.
If a sports team decides to fill their roster with whatever's easily available to them from local universities, it's their own fault when they lose terribly.
edit: late post, sorry
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No no, it's cool, I saw what you did there.
I just can't help but shit on the arenas. I consider it karmic balance, after they shat all over me. Gladiator teams with weapons and shoulders in the 1300's has a way of ruining your day.
Can trade TF2 items or whatever else you're interested in. PM me.
Clearly those are all made up numbers.
There's no tier where you are allowed enchants so powerful that a twink is exponentially stronger than a properly geared player of that level.
Obviously, if you've been neglecting your gear and you hop into a BG you'll be underpowered. And obviously if you hop into a BG at a lower level than the top level of that tier, you're likely to get stomped.
But if you take the time, as you're leveling up, to keep your gear up to date; no amount of equipment or enchants on a player is going to be so grossly overpowered that they can't be defeated.
Too many people just see the glow on a weapon and just lay down and die.
And then go bitch about it on an interweb forum.
EDIT: Except, ironically, the 70 BG's. A S3/4 player is going to stomp a new 70 with greens and blues. But this isn't what is being bitched about here.
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I guess my analogy failed...
Sports teams can't do this, they have limited funds, operate under draft rules, etc. They are still competitive because the rules of the game allow them to be. WoW is not this way. WoW requires every player to have a 100 year history in the largest market in the world and the associated revenue.
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They knew what was going on when they went in there.
Fuck 'em.
TWINK OR DIE BITCHES.
Really? Because he's not the one playing martyr about supposedly not having a chance.
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And the scaled time you refer to comes out to be a couple months in reality.
Or a few days with the help of a guild.
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edit: well, maybe you can't. I don't know. :P
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A few months spent before I can pvp with my character at level 19? That seams reasonable. You're missing the point. If the game was to make the best level 19 PvP character, then that would be fine. Hell, that IS the game now. However, the game where you get to play PvP as you level your character up, that one doesn't exist, and that is the problem, and my only complaint.
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If you're trying to level up you'll be 19 for what 1-2 hours max?? So it's really nothing to ruffle your feathers over. What intelligent new people to the game do, is read up on how to assist their team memebers that are decked out, or how to gear their character better. My girlfriend is going through this learning curve now, but she's not crying about it, she's asking me for tips on helping her team and where she can get better gear at. She knows she's only going to be in the lower brackets for a short amount of time and understands that other people like to stay in those brackets for PVP only.
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AND, you should realize that when you are done, you are no longer involved in a competitive contest of pvp. You already won that. When you are done, you are just making other people annoyed.
A good player specifically going for the level 20-29 PvP bracket would probably twink, though. Doing otherwise would be a bad decision, since it won't give them the greatest advantage they could have.
No, they're not the same thing, but they can be related.
Imo opinion, you hit the nail on the head there.
Of course Blizzard rewards players for how long they have spent in the game. It's money in their pocket!
Silly me. Who cares that it's supposed to be a role playing game.
And game companies who are releasing new MMORPGs often don't survive long enough to have to worry about server economy and twinks anyway, so they don't care about it either!
The real defining aspect of RPG's are the guilds that go to a bar, get drunk, and start a bar fight.
Sure. Characters that become more powerful with THEIR experience are a defining aspect of RPGs. Most RPGs aren't centered around character <y> becoming more powerful because character <z> has been farming for weeks.
Once I get my WoW cosplay SCA league going it won't be.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.