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Buying a midrange electric guitar

Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punkhedge witchRegistered User regular
edited September 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
Okay, so I'm getting decently proficient with an acoustic guitar, and I've been decent at bass for a while, meaning it's time to consider getting an electric guitar and/or a better bass (right now it's a junky generic, just like the acoustic is).

So here's my idealistic instrument:
Electric
Around $600 (450 to 800 is my preferred range unless something amazingly kickass below or just above that exists), to ensure quality without busting the bank too hard.
If it's a bass, 5-string is optimal, but 4 is fine.
Designed for rock, but can be decently flexible as to what kind of rock.
Decently unique (meaning I don't want a Strat/Les Paul clone if I can avoid it. If I bought either of those, it'd have to be the highest quality strat/LP on the market)

So what's the best instrument you guys have used within these general parameters? I've seen some really nice guitars by Peavey around the price range, but pretty much anything is cool.

Also, any recommendations for amps would be nice while we're at it, since the one that came with the starter bass is pretty trashed (read:broke it in Africa a while back).

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  • wmelonwmelon Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Godin makes some nice guitars in that range.

    I messed with one of these the other day and was fairly impressed.

    I've always been a fan of these as well.

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  • Jimmy KingJimmy King Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Agile guitars from Rondo Music tend to get nothing but good comments and they definitely have quality stuff in your price range.

    I've also heard nothing but good recently about the current NJ Deluxe and WMD series B.C. Rich guitars. They fit the quality requirement, they fit the unique requirement, and they fit the rocking the fuck out requirement.

    If you don't mind buying used, I believe a couple of guys on the Dean Guitars forums are selling their guitar from a limited run dubbed "Cadzilla", which is a Dean Cadillac with a killer looking quilted maple top and trans-green color. Everyone says those play great and they are one of the coolest looking roundies I've ever seen.

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  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Yeah, I asked this same question on another forum I frequent, and Agile came up. Rondo's Brice basses seem cool, too. However, Parker's P-series seems to be my best bet for my price range as far as guitars go.

    And that Dean guitar looks great, but I'm betting someone will get to it first. I'm holding off on actually buying this guitar for a little while, when I know I'll have the proper cash.

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I always just recommend that you go to a rock/guitar shop and trying out a few just to get a feel for them.

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  • TheGreat2ndTheGreat2nd Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I always have to suggest an Ibanez S520
    So light, such a thin neck, perfect for shredding and hard rock

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  • garroad_rangarroad_ran Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I always just recommend that you go to a rock/guitar shop and trying out a few just to get a feel for them.

    This. There is no other real answer.

    Besides, you're not giving us much to go on. I'm not too clear on whether you're looking for a bass or a guitar... or both? What sort of a sound are you looking for? Any particular body shape or wood? Pickup combinations? What sort of bridge? Have you considered neck width, shape, or radius?

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  • romanqwertyromanqwerty Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    It really depends on what music you play. I have no knowledge of bass though so ill assume your thinking guitar.

    Fender Strats and Epiphone Les Pauls are the most popular choices and they are very versatile. Like others have said, go into a guitar store and try a whole bunch of things.

    I have a noname Les paul (cost about 600 and i love it). My advice is to just go into a guitar store and try a bunch of different guitar amp combos and find something you like. For me, the most important thing is how a guitar feels, then how it sounds and lastly how it looks.

    If you have a guitar idol, and play alot of his/her music, get a similar guitar.

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  • RookRook Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I bought a solidbody Gretsch recently, they're nice.

    As for amps, depending on the price range but the Roland Cube series and Valve Valvetronix are good.

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  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I always have to suggest an Ibanez S520
    So light, such a thin neck, perfect for shredding and hard rock

    Seconded, I play an SZ520 and it is super slick. Try it out. I think they're regarded as pretty good mid-price guitars that are good for a lot of heavier styles.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I'm looking at a Hagstrum Swede model. I've played it a few times and it's excellent. The only thing that's stopping me is that I can't decide between the Ultra and the Super models.

    But yeah, go into a guitar shop and say "I'm looking for blank in blank range, what would you suggest?" and then try them.

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  • Typhoid MannyTyphoid Manny Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    As far as amps go, you might want to look into amp modelers, like a Pod or Vamp. Without a separate power amp or powered speaker you won't be able to rock out real loud, but they're a lot cheaper than the real thing and the small loss in sound quality is more than made up for by how goddamned versatile they are.

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  • edited September 2008
    I know you don't want a strat, and if you do you want real school. But I picked up a used Mexican 94 strat about 6 years back for 300 and an small amp that puts out decent power. I mean I wouldnt say get a squire but the Mexican and Jap strats arn't bad. I'd probably roll with a gibson or a cheaper les paul if you can can your hands on one. Fuck someone help me out, whos the other people who make the cheaper les pauls, epiphone?

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  • ScrubletScrublet Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Are you thinking used or new? I ask because you brought up amp recommendations, and I recently went used on an amp and it worked great for about three weeks. Now I'm dealing with repair shops because of a buzz on the speaker out (most likely a power amp issue). If new I could have turfed it back to the shop/manufacturer and said deal with it.

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  • i n c u b u si n c u b u s Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Rondo has some great basses and their Agiles are pretty good too but for your price range I'd suggest going for the real deal. You can find yourself an awesome Fender that sounds and plays very nice for that price (like I did) and most of the models are in that range. The only gibsons you can get, new, for that are probably the SG specials and the melody maker sg and LPs. My suggestion would be go for a Fender. Go to a shop with a great selection and try out some models, I never thought I would own a Telecaster because I hated the body but its honestly the best guitar I have and I only paid $500 for it (Fender Nashville Telecaster, black w/ turtoise pickguard).

    Sidenote: If your looking for a rather inexpensive solution to your problem here, go for a Rondo bass (actually it'll be an SX bass). They really do play and look great and the only thing you really need to do to them to make them sound just as good if not better than anything out there would be this:
    -have it professionally set up to your liking.
    -replace the pickups if you'd like to suit your sound.
    -replace the strings.
    You won't be disappointed.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    I can't recommend the Schecter C-1 enough. It's great for metal/rock and the Seymore Duncan pickups they come with are fucking PRO.

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  • SeolSeol Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    Ampwise, what are you looking for? A practise amp, something with enough volume to jam with friends, something to perform with?

    One thing worth noting is that tonewise, everything else being equal, an extra dollar spent on your amp is going to have more effect than an extra dollar spent on your guitar.

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  • stratslingerstratslinger Registered User regular
    edited September 2008
    ...the Mexican and Jap strats arn't bad...

    Seconded. My main guitar is a Mexican Strat Special - circa 94 or 95, interestingly enough. I love the feel of the guitar and the humbucker in the bridge gives it some tonal flexibility. My only complaint is that some of the hardware (bridge saddles, tuners) leaves something to be desired. But for the price, that stuff is very easy and affordable to upgrade if you want.

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  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    edited September 2008
    4rch3nemy wrote: »
    I can't recommend the Schecter C-1 enough. It's great for metal/rock and the Seymore Duncan pickups they come with are fucking PRO.

    I was just about to recommend that, though the Hellraiser variant. It has the EMG 81/89 combo instead of the Seymore Duncans.

    Definitely going to be my next guitar.

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