... and buying a game with more depth.
Right now I'm thinking about three games:
Civ4
Sins of a Solar Empire
Football Manager 2008 (i'm a big soccer fan)
I'm using a laptop right now, so my choices are a bit limited. Still, I'm curious what you all think I should buy. Also, multiplayer would be a big plus.
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Yeah like.
Ok I can see complaints with spore.
But depth? That is like the one thing that cannot be complained about with it.
Seeing as i've never played the game before, I can't really speak to the truth of this, but somebody in the Spore thread said that the actual things you can design tops around 150, like the stats of the monsters, where as the "mess around in the creator with colors" are theoretically infinite.
No. Ive been playing the creature creator for months and it is infinite.
Spore has breadth, not depth.
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That is all.
EDIT: and, yah, this belongs in the Spore thread.
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Look into the Sporepedia and you can easily find more than 150 designs.
Still though, if you're going to sell Spore, at least put it towards Civ 4.
spore's a cool enough novelty but its depth exists only in the potential for an infinitum of different-but-still-fairly-similar aesthetic changes
Why does this belong in the Spore thread? The guy (who admittedly starts it with a pretty provocative title) just was asking for a recommendations on a new game.
EDIT: When I said 150 designs, I meant like 150 stats differences, like speed, carnivore/herbivore, etc... But again, I could be remembering it wrong.
I wish i could get CoH or WiC, but unfortunately my computer can't run those. Graphics wise, Spore pushed my computer pretty much to its limits :-(
My roommate also told me that Civ4 might not work, but i have a hard time believing that.
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just don't install the expansions right away because they bump up the requirements
way to go right to attacking anonymous people on your 4th post!
I think there's an achievement for that or something.
Do you actually want suggestions on a game or do you just want to bitch about spore and anyone who likes it?
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Civ 4 requires a video card that can handle hardware transform and lighting and pixel shaders. If you have a computer with an integrated card that doesn't have these features, then you end up with glitches like the ground and ocean not showing up, or the game just not working.
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That's like saying "its impossible" to sell MMO accounts.
It's one game made up of five shallow games. It was fun while it lasted but it didn't last long.
Edit: Buy Sins of a Solar Empire.
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This.
While true, it's not "deep" in terms of the gameplay options your creativity allows, as there's only 4 abilities and 4 or 5 potential levels of those abilities. Even less so in the other modes. The game is anything but deep from a gameplay standpoint.
All EA multiplayer games use the same central service (including 360/PS3), so if you give up your Spore account you're giving that up as well. Could be ugly if you've bound your console ID, or played recent Battlefield games or whatever. Just FYI.
i found the creature creator vastly more entertaining than the game itself
the way you build creatures in the full game takes the focus away from building unique looking characters and places it on being railroaded into arbitrary things for the sake of an uninspiered clicking game
I'm going to agree with everyone else on Civ 4. You could also check out Romance of the Three Kingdoms XI, which just came out for the PC in English and is a lot of fun, but doesn't have the sheer massive scale of a Civ game. It also might not work too well on your laptop, but there is a demo out there.
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I dont see what's wrong. The guy is absolutely right. Spore has about as much depth as a 5 year old girl (hit me if I went too far.)
Stop having fun over there in the Spore thread, dammit! Don't you guys know how much that game sucks? Stop enjoying it! :evil:
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Just because some people enjoy a game doesn't mean everyone has to, or shouldn't express their dislike of it. And Spore is hardly universally loved right now... the whole deep/fun argument has popped up on pretty much every game forum, so it's not as though it's just a few disgruntled people hating the new popular thing.
In any case, this thread was started by a guy asking for games deeper than Spore, not telling you to sell your copy.
I adore Sins. ADORE it. That said, it's harder to tell if you'll like it than Civ. Civ is a safe bet, Sins is more of a gamble. They're both fantastic, so really go with whichever one appeals to you more.
Thats exactly what i was trying to say through the sarcasm.
But yeah, Civ 4.
See, i was agreeing with you and disagreeing with the fanboy. You thought my quote was directed at you when it was directed at him. I love misunderstandings! lets go share a cupcake now.
World In Conflict is great, just have a decent machine for it (It's like ground control in the sense that it's a tactical RTS without micromanagement).
Medieval II: Total War has a lot of depth too.
It doesn't have depth, merely the illusion of being deep. If I compared spore to a swimming pool, it would be a mile long and roughly 5 inches deep the whole way across. Enough to paddle in but insufficient to really swim. I was heavily disappointed, but then again, I'm not sure what I was actually expecting.
Edit: I'd like to make it 100% clear, that this is also completely fine but it isn't at all what I wanted or expected from the game (obviously, I was mistaken). I find spore immensely unsatisfying from a gameplay point of view and highly disconnected, much like a series of mini-games that never really go far enough to be interesting. Unfortunately, this is just how the game needed to be designed given the scope that it has, but I find it ultimately very unsatisfying.
That swimming pool sounds awesome.