Honestly that would have been the only way for it to get worse
The very last issue of it was rad as hell though, with Peter and Norman beating the shit out of each other
Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) grew up in a town populated entirely by fugitive aliens, where he, despite being a giant geek, was popular and well-liked, contradicting Countdown to Infinite Crisis.
Blue Beetle was originally slated to star in a volume of Showcase, where he would be the lead feature, and assorted secondary characters would star in back-up features. This book came so close to production that there are actually two sets of art floating around for the first few pages.
Prior to Ted's death, and the creation of Jaime Reyes, J Torres and Mike Norton (among several others) pitched a new Blue Beetle book, which would have also starred a young Blue Beetle, empowered by the scarab.
The first story arc will establish Booster and Gold's current situation and adapt it depending on where they are following all their misadventures with the "Super Buddies." As we discover the present day status of Ted Kord's company, Booster's marriage, etc. the new Blue Beetle shows up in Chicago fighting crime, battling evil, and righting wrongs... in between classes at Midwestern University where he has yet to declare a major.
• Although Gary refuses to tell Ted much about himself, Ted immediately recognizes the scarab amulet and is suspicious of Gary, thinking the amulet had been destroyed when Dan died. After some investigation, Ted discovers that Gary is his late mentor's nephew and has to resign himself to the fact that he has as much right to the Blue Beetle name and legacy as anyone. Ted then offers Gary his help, but is initially refused. It's not until Ted dons his old costume to save Gary's life, that the two begin to come together. Ted tells Gary about his heart condition, Gary tells Ted his life's story, and in turn Ted tells Gary everything he knows about the original Blue Beetle, his origins, powers, etc.
• Ted and Booster offer Gary their high tech weapons and gear to help in his crime fighting, but the kid turns them down. Gary doesn't tell them, but he's having enough issues controlling his super strength and getting used to flying without becoming air sick. He doesn't need any gun-like weapon or flying vehicle to make things more dangerous for himself and those around him. Especially since he's begun questioning his sanity now that he's hearing voices from the sun.
• Not knowing much about magic using and the honing of supernatural super powers, Ted calls in some friends to help in the training of Gary and the understanding of his abilities. He recruits the likes of Dr. Fate, Zatanna, and Hawkman. With their help Gary discovers that his powers come from Khepri, an Ancient Egyptian sun god. A god he seems to be able to communicate with when he's "fully" charged with solar power (hence, the voices from the sun). Plus, he also discovers the inherent weakness of the amulet and its reliance on solar power.
• The Egyptian origins of the blue scarab amulet come into play early on when some of the new super villains Gary battles appear to have a connection to ancient mythology. A new, villainous Silver Scarab appears to try and take the amulet from him, for example. It is eventually discovered that other people possessed the amulet between the time it reappeared and ended up in Gary's hands. And those people were somehow corrupted by its power and now seek it back. Thanks to Ted's influence, as well as his own inner goodness, Gary is spared from the same malevolent force that turns these people. But it doesn't stop the evil spirit from trying...
• What happens when the girl Gary falls in love with turns out to be one of those corrupted by the dark force of the amulet?
• What happens when the solar powered superhero discovers that he's developed skin cancer?
• What happens when Gary's mother claims she is the rightful owner of the amulet?
Initially it was suggested that Weapon X program was developed by the Apocalypse, as a part of his "survival of the fittest" agenda, but later the idea was scrapped.
Munch, I gotta say, that depresses the shit out of me.
Why is it that all these fuck heads in comics die and them come back to life like 6 months laters, but Steve Rodgers and Ted Kord are gonna be dead forever?
Initially it was suggested that Weapon X program was developed by the Apocalypse, as a part of his "survival of the fittest" agenda, but later the idea was scrapped.
Tangent: The original concept for We3 was for the project to be part of the same program as Weapon X, being from when they used animals as candidates for superweapons before moving onto mutants. Marvel wasn't too keen on the idea so they took it to Vertigo instead.
Munch, I gotta say, that depresses the shit out of me.
Why is it that all these fuck heads in comics die and them come back to life like 6 months laters, but Steve Rodgers and Ted Kord are gonna be dead forever?
To be fair Keith, Dan Didio has outright stated that he'll never let Ted Kord be resurrected, for as long as he, Judd Winick, or Greg Rucka are with DC. On the other hand, Jaime Reyes' series has been a commercial flop, and Ted still has some mojo, judging by the sales bump his appearance gave Manhunter, and how well (relatively) Booster Gold has done, compared to DC's legacy hero projects. So I definitely wouldn't count him out.
On the topic of Steve Rogers, Quesada and Brubaker have both been pretty clear on the fact that Steve will get resurrected. Both have, when questioned about Cap's death, pretty much answered, "Hey, just enjoy the stories here in the present, and try not to worry about the future too much."
It's also fair to point out that J Torres is a pretty middling writer, and while I appreciate the idea of a Blue Beetle series that would have co-starred Blue and Gold, his series probably would have been slightly worse than Giffen and Rogers' above-average run.
To be fair Keith, Dan Didio has outright stated that he'll never let Ted Kord be resurrected, for as long as he, Judd Winick, or Greg Rucka are with DC.
really? what's that about? are they all secretly dan garrett's grandkids or something?
I think that they, or at least Didio, see Ted as their Barry Allen. He's the guy they offed in order to make their big event really pop, and they feel that by bringing him back, it diminishes the event.
I feel this is incredibly backwards and stupid for about a thousand different reasons, but I doubt anyone wants to read another of my rants.
Didio also said he could never see Ralph Dibny coming back to life, and one could infer that means Sue Dibny by extension. Ralph is one of the few characters who had a death that rivals Ted's in idiocy and poor writing, but once again, the Dibnys were the sacrificial lambs of two of Didio's big events, so I wouldn't expect to see them back until he's gone.
Man, I have no problem with Ted coming back as long as Jaime sticks around too. The only thing such an outright refusal does is close off potential storylines.
I think that they, or at least Didio, see Ted as their Barry Allen. He's the guy they offed in order to make their big event really pop, and they feel that by bringing him back, it diminishes the event.
that's double-dumb given that dido let barry get brought back.
I had no problems with Ralph Dibney's death, I thought it was pretty cool.
Yeah, I quite liked his story in 52, and thought it had a great ending. I think if you ignore the stupidity of Sue's death, his is quite good in and of itself.
I had no problems with Ralph Dibney's death, I thought it was pretty cool.
Really?
I thought it was kind of retarded. The whole Neron thing really came out of nowhere. Ralph had no important history with Neron, nor any reason to really want to fuck him, other than that he was a big, mean dude. Had the 52 writers wedged a subplot in about how Sue's soul was in Neron's custody or something, that could have gave the ending some real oomph and pathos, but as it was written I was left feeling pretty lukewarm on it.
If DC had coordinated to actually keep Faust off the table for a while, I could have almost swallowed it but nope, Faust was out fucking with superheroes again in JLA's OYL arc, ditto for Neron. So Ralph's big sacrifice was rendered pointless almost immediately.
I also hate that the whole Ghost Detectives thing hasn't been exploited in any decent way, and really only made both Sue and Ralph less interesting; they're basically just Deadman II and Deadwoman now, and that's pretty boring. Hell, I would have preferred Maybe-Maybe Not Crazy Ralph and Maybe-Maybe Not Ghost Sue for a while, as was shown at the end of Identity Crisis. That would have been an interesting angle on their relationship, while still keeping some important things about Ralph intact; his celebrity status, his relationship with Opal City, and a slightly more grounded, less mystical detective angle.
But I've written this rant before, so I'll just stop myself there.
...in late 1989, Rocket Racer started showing up again in the pages of Web of Spider-Man…and Night Thrasher had just debuted in the pages of Thor (along with the rest of the New Warriors)…
McDuffie (then an editor at Marvel), took slight issue with the fact that this was basically a quarter of the black superheroes appearing in Marvel Comics at the time, and they were a bit, well, similar.
This led to McDuffie’s hilarious parody pitch…Teenage Negro Ninja Thrashers.
I don’t remember where I heard this (it was a long time ago), but somewhere along the line I heard a story about how Frank Miller had to change the third issue of “The Dark Knight Returns†because DC had a major conniption fit about the fate of Jason Todd.
All throughout the story various characters keep commenting on “what happened to Jason,†but exactly what that means is never revealed. I read somewhere that Miller’s original plot for DKR#3 revealed that the Joker had captured Jason, sodomized him, killed him, butchered him, and mailed the pieces to Batman c/o Commissioner Gordon. Needless to say, DC said “no way in Hell.â€
I don’t remember where I heard this (it was a long time ago), but somewhere along the line I heard a story about how Frank Miller had to change the third issue of “The Dark Knight Returns†because DC had a major conniption fit about the fate of Jason Todd.
All throughout the story various characters keep commenting on “what happened to Jason,†but exactly what that means is never revealed. I read somewhere that Miller’s original plot for DKR#3 revealed that the Joker had captured Jason, sodomized him, killed him, butchered him, and mailed the pieces to Batman c/o Commissioner Gordon. Needless to say, DC said “no way in Hell.â€
are you kidding me?
that's an A-List plot for Teen Titans nowadays
if Sean McKeever wrote that DC would be all over his cock
I had no problems with Ralph Dibney's death, I thought it was pretty cool.
Really?
I thought it was kind of retarded. The whole Neron thing really came out of nowhere. Ralph had no important history with Neron, nor any reason to really want to fuck him, other than that he was a big, mean dude. Had the 52 writers wedged a subplot in about how Sue's soul was in Neron's custody or something, that could have gave the ending some real oomph and pathos, but as it was written I was left feeling pretty lukewarm on it.
If DC had coordinated to actually keep Faust off the table for a while, I could have almost swallowed it but nope, Faust was out fucking with superheroes again in JLA's OYL arc, ditto for Neron. So Ralph's big sacrifice was rendered pointless almost immediately.
I also hate that the whole Ghost Detectives thing hasn't been exploited in any decent way, and really only made both Sue and Ralph less interesting; they're basically just Deadman II and Deadwoman now, and that's pretty boring. Hell, I would have preferred Maybe-Maybe Not Crazy Ralph and Maybe-Maybe Not Ghost Sue for a while, as was shown at the end of Identity Crisis. That would have been an interesting angle on their relationship, while still keeping some important things about Ralph intact; his celebrity status, his relationship with Opal City, and a slightly more grounded, less mystical detective angle.
But I've written this rant before, so I'll just stop myself there.
The reason why his story was good was because it was about a man dealing with the despair of being alone, and coping with loss. If sue is in any way actually involved, it takes away from that. And the rest of your complaints have nothing to do with his actual death, but with how it was handled later.
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So comics trivia. Didn't CBR used to have a weekly type column with rumors and trivia? A fan would mail in a rumor, like Superman's dad was not shown for 10 years or whatever, and then the columnist would be all "FALSE Jor-El first appeared in 1943, although blah blah etc etc"
I'm not talking about the current rumor thing... lying in the gutters or whatever, but a different column.
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That's going to be the whole point behind the upcoming Annual.
The very last issue of it was rad as hell though, with Peter and Norman beating the shit out of each other
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Who's hornhead though? I'm racking my brains, I can't think of any famous horned marvel heroes.
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the martian manhunter fuckin' loves oreo cookies
well dang
Oreos are trademarked.
Blue Beetle was originally slated to star in a volume of Showcase, where he would be the lead feature, and assorted secondary characters would star in back-up features. This book came so close to production that there are actually two sets of art floating around for the first few pages.
Prior to Ted's death, and the creation of Jaime Reyes, J Torres and Mike Norton (among several others) pitched a new Blue Beetle book, which would have also starred a young Blue Beetle, empowered by the scarab.
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Why is it that all these fuck heads in comics die and them come back to life like 6 months laters, but Steve Rodgers and Ted Kord are gonna be dead forever?
*facepalm*
I should have gotten that.
Tangent: The original concept for We3 was for the project to be part of the same program as Weapon X, being from when they used animals as candidates for superweapons before moving onto mutants. Marvel wasn't too keen on the idea so they took it to Vertigo instead.
Oh man, you can see the future?
On the topic of Steve Rogers, Quesada and Brubaker have both been pretty clear on the fact that Steve will get resurrected. Both have, when questioned about Cap's death, pretty much answered, "Hey, just enjoy the stories here in the present, and try not to worry about the future too much."
It's also fair to point out that J Torres is a pretty middling writer, and while I appreciate the idea of a Blue Beetle series that would have co-starred Blue and Gold, his series probably would have been slightly worse than Giffen and Rogers' above-average run.
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really? what's that about? are they all secretly dan garrett's grandkids or something?
I feel this is incredibly backwards and stupid for about a thousand different reasons, but I doubt anyone wants to read another of my rants.
Didio also said he could never see Ralph Dibny coming back to life, and one could infer that means Sue Dibny by extension. Ralph is one of the few characters who had a death that rivals Ted's in idiocy and poor writing, but once again, the Dibnys were the sacrificial lambs of two of Didio's big events, so I wouldn't expect to see them back until he's gone.
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that's double-dumb given that dido let barry get brought back.
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Yeah, I quite liked his story in 52, and thought it had a great ending. I think if you ignore the stupidity of Sue's death, his is quite good in and of itself.
Really?
I thought it was kind of retarded. The whole Neron thing really came out of nowhere. Ralph had no important history with Neron, nor any reason to really want to fuck him, other than that he was a big, mean dude. Had the 52 writers wedged a subplot in about how Sue's soul was in Neron's custody or something, that could have gave the ending some real oomph and pathos, but as it was written I was left feeling pretty lukewarm on it.
If DC had coordinated to actually keep Faust off the table for a while, I could have almost swallowed it but nope, Faust was out fucking with superheroes again in JLA's OYL arc, ditto for Neron. So Ralph's big sacrifice was rendered pointless almost immediately.
I also hate that the whole Ghost Detectives thing hasn't been exploited in any decent way, and really only made both Sue and Ralph less interesting; they're basically just Deadman II and Deadwoman now, and that's pretty boring. Hell, I would have preferred Maybe-Maybe Not Crazy Ralph and Maybe-Maybe Not Ghost Sue for a while, as was shown at the end of Identity Crisis. That would have been an interesting angle on their relationship, while still keeping some important things about Ralph intact; his celebrity status, his relationship with Opal City, and a slightly more grounded, less mystical detective angle.
But I've written this rant before, so I'll just stop myself there.
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that's an A-List plot for Teen Titans nowadays
if Sean McKeever wrote that DC would be all over his cock
Fucking creative geniuses these two.
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The reason why his story was good was because it was about a man dealing with the despair of being alone, and coping with loss. If sue is in any way actually involved, it takes away from that. And the rest of your complaints have nothing to do with his actual death, but with how it was handled later.
Neron was about as out of nowhere as Faust was.
I'm not talking about the current rumor thing... lying in the gutters or whatever, but a different column.