KOFXII - Console news: Mature and Elizabeth CONFIRMED. 3v3 Clan matches PS3 exclusive

Jubeh

Movelists were posted up on SRK. Sorry if this has already been seen, but I don't think so because it includes Iori (without a qcf+p I might add) and the other just revealed characters.

全キャラコマンド一覧表 - Kyo
草薙京
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 外式・轟斧　陽 →+Ｂ
必殺技 百式・鬼焼き →↓＼+ＡまたはＣ
百壱式・朧車 ←↓／+ＢまたはＤ
弐百拾弐式・琴月 陽 →＼↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 裏百八式・大蛇薙 ↓／←／↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ

二階堂紅丸 - Benimaru
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 ジャックナイフキック →+Ｂ
必殺技 雷靭拳 ↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ（空中可）
居合い蹴り ↓＼→+Ｄ
反動三段蹴り 居合い蹴り中に↓↑+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 雷光拳 （↓＼→）×２+ＡまたはＣ

八神庵 - Iori
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 外式・夢弾 →+Ａ・Ａ
必殺技 四百壱式・衝月 ↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
百弐拾九式・明鳥 ↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
百四式・鵺討ち →↓＼+ＡまたはＣ
超必殺技 禁千弐百拾壱式・八稚女 ↓＼→＼↓／←+ＡまたはＣ

麻宮アテナ - Athena
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 フェニックスボム →+Ｂ（空中可）
必殺技 サイコボールアタック ↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
サイコリフレクター →＼↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
フェニックスアロー 空中で↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 シャイニングクリスタルビット （→＼↓／←）×２+ＡまたはＣ

テリー・ボガード - Terry
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 ライジングアッパー ＼+Ｃ
必殺技 パワーウェイブ ↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
バーンナックル ↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
ライジングタックル ↓ため↑+ＡまたはＣ
超必殺技 パワーゲイザー ↓／←／→+ＡまたはＣ

アンディ・ボガード - Andy
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 平手打ち →+Ａ
必殺技 斬影拳 ／ため→+ＡまたはＣ
飛翔拳 ↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
空破弾 ←／↓＼→+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 超裂破弾 ↓／←／↓＼→+ＢまたはＤ

ライデン - Raiden
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技
必殺技 毒霧 ↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
ライデンボム →↓＼+ＡまたはＣ
ジャイアントボム ／ため→+ＡまたはＣ
ヘッドクラッシュ →＼↓／←+Ｃ
超必殺技 スーパーライデンドロップ （→＼↓／←）×２+ＡまたはＣ

キム - Kim
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 トラ・ヨプチャギ →→+Ｄ
必殺技 半月斬 ↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
飛燕斬 ↓ため↑+ＢまたはＤ
飛翔脚 空中で↓＼→+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 鳳凰脚 ↓／←／→+ＢまたはＤ

レオナ・ハイデルン - Leona
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 ストライクアーチ →+Ｂ
必殺技 ムーンスラッシャー ムーンスラッシャー
グランドセイバー ←ため→+ＢまたはＤ
Ｘキャリバー 空中で↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
超必殺技 Ｖスラッシャー 空中で↓＼→＼↓／←+ＡまたはＣ

ラルフ・ジョーンズ - Ralf
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 ジェットアッパー ＼+Ｃ
必殺技 バルカンパンチ ＡまたはＣ連打
バーニングハンマー ↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
爆弾ラルフパンチ ↓／←+ＡまたはＣ
超必殺技 ギャラクティカファントム （↓＼→）×２+ＡまたはＣ

リョウ・サカザキ - Ryo
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 氷柱割り →+Ａ
必殺技 虎煌拳 ↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
虎咆 →↓＼+ＡまたはＣ
暫烈拳 →←→+ＡまたはＣ
飛燕疾風脚 →＼↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 覇王翔吼拳 →←／↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
龍虎乱舞 ↓＼→＼↓／←+ＡまたはＣ

ロバート・ガルシア - Robert
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 ローキック →+Ｂ
必殺技 龍撃拳 ↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
龍連・幻影脚 ←／↓＼→+Ｄ
飛燕龍神脚 空中で↓／←+ＢまたはＤ
飛燕疾風脚 ／ため→+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 覇王翔吼拳 →←／↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
龍虎乱舞 ↓＼→＼↓／←+ＡまたはＣ

アッシュ・クリムゾン - Ash
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 フロレアール ←+Ｄまたは→+Ｄ
ヴァントーズ ←ため→+ＡまたはＣ
必殺技 ニヴォース ↓ため↑+ＢまたはＤ
超必殺技 テルミドール （↓＼→）×２+ＡまたはＣ
ブリュヴィオーズ （↓＼→）×２+ＢまたはＤ

シェン・ウー - Shen
分類 技名 コマンド
特殊技 斧旋脚 →+Ｂ
必殺技 激拳 ↓＼→+ＡまたはＣ
伏虎撃 ↓／←+Ａ
降龍撃 伏虎撃中に↓＼→+Ａ
超必殺技 絶・激拳 （↓＼→）×２+ＡまたはＣ

Rex Dart

Page- wrote: »

Rex Dart wrote: »

Page- wrote:

Concrete confirmation, I suppose. KOF XII is neither a story game, nor is it a Dream Match. Main characters and throwbacks only. Also negates the need for teams.

Just out of curiosity, why don't you consider this a dream match? I was always under the impression that dream match simply meant non-canon, and if the game doesn't have a story, than it must be non-canon, right?

Simply because it doesn't follow any of the standard conventions of a Dream Match.

- Lot's of characters.
- Return of fan favourite characters who are either dead or have no bearing on current storylines.
- A return of one or more of the older systems.
- Stages full of in-jokes and cameos.
- Takes place between the end of one story arc and the beginning of another.

Simply because XII doesn't really follow any of those general rules. There are only a few characters, and they're all story relevant (except maybe Raiden). The stages look pretty standard so far, and they're introducing new systems instead of brining back old ones (except for going back to tagless 3v3). I suppose it's a little like a Dream Match, but not really like any of the previous ones.

As for non-canon, well the KOF:MI games are non-canon, but I guess that's a slightly different issue.

Yeah, but '98 and 2002 had huge rosters because nearly all of their sprites were old. I would argue that they had lots of characters not because they were dream matches, but because they were NeoGeo games with a wealth of old NeoGeo sprites they could use. Also, 2002 follows '98's conventions so closely simply because it was the most popular and (let's face it) best KOF up until that point. Also, new gameplay systems introduced in '99-2001 weren't widely appreciated. In any case, it's pretty difficult/impossible to establish a pattern with only two official examples.

By the way, KOF:MI is not technically non-canon. It's just a separate canon/alternate universe deal. SNK likes promoting confusion.

No Great Name

If this isn't a story game, nor a dream match.

Why bother with Ash, Ralf, and Shen Long? I mean, I even like Shen, but blahhh.

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Ash should be in because he's the current hero. And Shen would just be in the next one anyways, so they may as well put him in, just like Elizabeth.

And I still think the most important parts of the Dream Matches were the return of old characters and systems. Bringing back Rugal, Mature and Vice, etc.

But it's semantics, really. XII is just a new game, a new base for the series, and it's totally unique for that.

Rex Dart

Here's a new gameplay video featuring Raiden. For those who were worried that the clash system would be too game-altering, clashes only occur three times in these three matches.1UP also has several new screenshots.

Reports are that Iori has indeed lost his fire! His attacks are now all slashes, and his uppercut and qcb x 3 are both different. Woo! Thanks, SNK!

Is it okay if I use this thread for other KOF news?

Lots of KOF 2002: Unlimited Match news has been released. [URL=http://www.ffl.sakura.ne.jp/[/URL]The new character select screen and character art can be seen here.[/URL] Surprisingly, SNK actually reorganized the teams a fair amount, and even included a "new" character.

Roster revealed so far include:

Japan Team: Kyo, Benimaru, Goro
Iori Team: Iori, Mature, Vice
Fatal Fury Team: Terry, Andy, Joe
Art of Fighting Team: Ryo, Robert, Yuri
K' Team: K', Maxima, Whip
Korea Team: Kim, Choi, Chang
Psycho Soldier Team: Athena, Kensou, Bao
Ikari Team: Leona, Ralf, Clark
Women's Team: Mai, King, Kasumi
97 Team: Blue Mary, Yamazaki, Billy
Orochi Team: Yashiro, Shermie, Chris
Agents Team: Vanessa, Ramon, Seth
NESTS Team: Kula, Angel, Foxy
Masters Team: Takuma, Chin, Heidern
Girl's Team: May Lee, Xiangfei, Hinako
Edit Team: Shingo, Jhun, Lin
Clone Team: Kusanagi, KYO-1, KYO-2
Standalone: Nameless

Bold = new addition to 2002 roster

The new character (Nameless) is a replacement for K9999, who has apparently been removed from the game. He apparently shares his moves, although some of them have been altered. You can see him at SNK's official page here. He's the dude with the cape.

Lastly, 1UP has some screenshots of KOF 98 for Xbox Live.

Fig-D

Good stuff, thanks for the updates man.

The new bars and such for 98UM look a bit out of place, and I wish they had redrawn the character portraits or backgrounds or something but oh well.

Edcrab

Yamazaki? HELL YEAH! Cheers for that.

Cherrn

I'm guessing there are licensing issues, so that's why they had to replace K9999.

2002 UM almost sounds like a complete remake, rather than an upgrade like '98 UM. New music, stages, new characters, several entirely new moves, changed teams, etc. Should be good.

Edit: Yamazaki was always in 2002.

Edcrab

Cherrn wrote: »

Edit: Yamazaki was always in 2002.

No, see, what you fail to understand is that I can't read and I thought he'd been confirmed as being in KOFXII.

:facepalm:

Jubeh

Hahaha. Poor K9999. Too bad his replacement doesn't have an afro or something equally cool.

Kyougu

This may sound like a stupid question, but after reading through most of the thread it had to be asked.

These games actually have a cohesive story?

TyrantCow

Rex Dart wrote: »

Here's a new gameplay video featuring Raiden.

damn, it looks so good.

hehe from the video caption (emphasis mine):

Off-Screen: Terry, Andy, Kyo, Raiden, and more duke it out. SNK Playmore's The King of Fighters XII is coming to PS2 and Xbox 360.

slash000

Kyougu wrote: »

This may sound like a stupid question, but after reading through most of the thread it had to be asked.

These games actually have a cohesive story?

Yes, they do. But periodically a "Dream Match" is released that is intentionally outside the bounds of any story or plot, and thus do not count / do not affect the story.

I think every fighting game has at least some what of a crazy-ass story. But yeah I'd still say that the overarching KOF storylines are all pretty cohesive.

Antihippy

Edcrab wrote: »

Cherrn wrote: »

Edit: Yamazaki was always in 2002.

No, see, what you fail to understand is that I can't read and I thought he'd been confirmed as being in KOFXII.

:facepalm:

You're not the only one.

*sigh*:...:

Cherrn

Kyougu wrote: »

This may sound like a stupid question, but after reading through most of the thread it had to be asked.

These games actually have a cohesive story?

Yes. A rather long and convoluted one, dealing in ancient bloodlines and complex character relationships.

You can check out the story FAQ on GameFAQs. It does take some liberties with the canon, but you probably can't find a better resource.

I tried explaining the entire plotline to a friend once and I think I lost him after 5 minutes. Note that the FAQ doesn't include any of the post 2001 story, either. They also made a Japanese-only RPG for the original Playstation, which fills in a lot of the little details surrounding the first Orochi arc.

The sheer size of the thing is marvelous, though. It almost rivals Metal Gear.

Burnage

So, is it just me or is Iori looking more and more like Freeman from Garou: MOTW? White featuring heavily in the outfit, slash moves...

Jubeh

Let's hope he's not as shitty as Freeman.

subedii

Cherrn wrote: »

Kyougu wrote: »

This may sound like a stupid question, but after reading through most of the thread it had to be asked.

These games actually have a cohesive story?

Yes. A rather long and convoluted one, dealing in ancient bloodlines and complex character relationships.

You can check out the story FAQ on GameFAQs. It does take some liberties with the canon, but you probably can't find a better resource.

The sheer size of the thing is marvelous, though. I tried explaining the entire plotline to a friend once and I think I lost him after 5 minutes.

You see, I know next to nothing about the storyline, and am generally confused by any ending cutscenes I see that aren't the credits. But then, I don't feel as if I'm missing out on too much deep meaning when I see Ralf Galactic Phantom Clark in the face.

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Hum. 2k2:UM news is all good.

Seems like throws are now command inputs, which is nice. And I like that Raiden doesn't look like so much of a fat bastard.

Good news with Iori. Just when Kyo finally gets his projectile back, Iori loses his flame. Seems like a neat role reversal, though I'll be sad to see him lose his annoying stun DM (no I won't). Still no Yuri news.

And talk about whatever KOF stuff you want. It's all related.

Rex Dart

Antihippy wrote: »

Edcrab wrote: »

Cherrn wrote: »

Edit: Yamazaki was always in 2002.

No, see, what you fail to understand is that I can't read and I thought he'd been confirmed as being in KOFXII.

:facepalm:

You're not the only one.

*sigh*:...:

Sorry, I didn't mean to get your hopes up.

Kyougo wrote:

This may sound like a stupid question, but after reading through most of the thread it had to be asked.

These games actually have a cohesive story?

The cohesiveness of the story sort of comes and goes. To be honest, I think the games makes less sense if you look at them as a whole. For example, there's a character that's been wearing a high school uniform for over ten years. But the real strength of the story is the characters. There's a lot of individuality to each one, and most KOFs feature lots of custom intros and win-quotes. So, to answer your question, yes the games have a semi-cohesive story, but the real strength of the series is in the characters and their interactions.

PunkBoy

Huh, never heard of 2k2: UM until now. Looks interesting!

(And yes! May Lee!)

Liquid Ghost

My weird team of Shermie and King kicked varying amounts of ass in the last few KOF games that I played. Hopefully, that trend can continue.

No Great Name

Shermie's dead.

Liquid Ghost

I need to keep up with things.

Also: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

No Great Name

There's always dream matches.


And magic!

Liquid Ghost

True. They wouldn't even need to explain it very well. They could just say "an ancient crystal shaped like boobs brought Shermie back from the realm of the dead". And then I'd be all like "YAAAAAAAAAAAAY!". And I'd pee a little.

Until then, though: NOOOOOOORRRRRGGGGHHHH

sonictk

Wait, it doesn't just seem like Kyo got his yami barai back, now it looks (from that video) that he's reverted to his pre-96 moveset? (you can see his R.E.D. kick gets replaced by the 3 airborne kicks and his hcb+B/D moves revert to that of his 'charge-and-grab-and-burn' technique) I hope this isn't the case, because I really liked his new moveset that made him a lot more aggressive and effective at close ranges.

Does anyone know more about this? Sorry I haven't really been keeping up with KOF XII news other than hey KOF at a higher res!

EDIT: Wow it seems like it IS the case after all. Also looking at the movelist that seems to confirm it.

Rex Dart

sonictk wrote: »

Wait, it doesn't just seem like Kyo got his yami barai back, now it looks (from that video) that he's reverted to his pre-96 moveset? (you can see his R.E.D. kick gets replaced by the 3 airborne kicks and his hcb+B/D moves revert to that of his 'charge-and-grab-and-burn' technique) I hope this isn't the case, because I really liked his new moveset that made him a lot more aggressive and effective at close ranges.

Does anyone know more about this?

Yeah, Kyo has reverted back to his classic move-set. The reasons for this (I suspect) are twofold:

For one thing, it's a lot easier to animate 4 moves (fireball, uppercut, run-and-grab and kicks) than it is to animate all his chains.

Second, Iori has lost his fireball, meaning that the series' standard shoto character no longer plays like a shoto. Thus, Kyo has taken over the role. Even though there haven't been any good videos of Iori yet (that I've found), it seems as if Kyo and Iori has essentially switched places.

Which is completely awesome by me. In my opinion, Iori has always been the cooler character but has suffered for it. While Kyo eventually got more and more moves and outfits, Iori just languished in status-quo land. I can't wait to play as the new Iori.

Erios

Ok, the trailer had an arranged Esaka 2 as the music. I am getting what I wanted.


Bought. Day one. No questions.

sonictk

Yea I finally checked out some video of Iori and it does seem he's now the close quarters contender instead. Hmm. I'm still disappointed, but hopefully Kyo will get his other moves back in XIII or maybe as an alt in the console version, unlikely as that will be. Because anyway I thought Kyo was supposed to have switched his style to be more aggressive according to the storyline (although admittedly the storyline is all kinds of fucked up anyway).

Also I prefer the R.E.D. kick to the old 3 kick move as I pretty much can only think of using it as a follow-up after his jumping front kick and not much it (and even then I preferred using C, then chaining into an uppercut or just straight out using orochinagi/aragami chains)

EDIT: Also goddamn I just realized that this means he won't have mu shiki again oh my god why do they keep giving it back and taking it away like they're playing with me instead

Erios

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/277979.html

New trailer featuring Andy Bogard, Raiden (*yawn*) and Iori Yagami 2.0!

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So, my Japanese is pretty rusty, but it says at the start April, 2009, and again at the end. So that's good news.

Iori redesign is looking nice. And it'll be nice to have him be even more rushy and aggro.

You may as well start warming up to Raiden, because with that roster size he's all you've got.

Still no Yuri.

Fig-D

Would be interesting if Iori's flames were gone but he could still fall victim to the Blood Riot and go all crazy slasher on someone's ass.

Also where's my Clark or King you jackasses.

Edcrab

Fig-D wrote: »

Would be interesting if Iori's flames were gone but he could still fall victim to the Blood Riot and go all crazy slasher on someone's ass.

Somehow I picture him doing something akin to Yamazaki's Desperation Moves. Of course that's not the best example as Yamazaki is the only Orochi who's not susceptible to the Blood Riot (so far). He's just batshit insane.

Fig-D

And there's certainly charm in that. "The bloodline can't trigger something in my body causing me to go apeshit bonanza, because I'm already there."

Edcrab

That's why all the ladies love him. And laughing at Orochi's followers during his pre-match intros? Badass. And crazy.

Basically his Double Returner and counter-attack let me screw people up so much in the arcades, thus he has a place in my heart for all eternity.

subedii

My man Robert's looking in good style. Can't wait to try it.

Fig-D wrote: »

Would be interesting if Iori's flames were gone but he could still fall victim to the Blood Riot and go all crazy slasher on someone's ass.

Iori's Super Desperation in 98 was the best. THE BEST.

Rex Dart

Here's the TGS trailer for 2002UM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjecM8VGD3Q

There have already been a lot of changes revealed for many of the characters. Leona, Whip, Foxy and Billy have a new DM, while Vice, Yuri, King and Maxima have a new HSDMs. And lots of new moves for nearly everyone. And from the trailer, it looks like all the bosses from the NESTS saga will be unlockable. It'll be a real feat to balance this game.

Not that it's that major, but they updated the official KOFXII site with the TGS trailer. The TGS trailer is just like the earlier trailer, except it includes Andy, Raiden and Iori.

If I had to bet on who the remaining six characters will be, I would guess Elizabeth, Goro, Mai, K', Clark and Yuri. The first two already appeared in an early publicity art, which I'm inclined to think is pretty reliable. Mai and K' are just ridiculously popular and I don't think SNK would want to leave out such popular characters in a KOF REBIRTH game. I'd guess Clark and Yuri mainly because the Ikari and Art of Fighting teams would be conspicuously short a third member without them. Although it's possible King could replace Yuri, Clark and Yuri are also two of the nine characters to appear in every single KOF. Of course, all of these are just guesses.

I also assume that the boss is not included in the 20 characters SNK is promising will appear in the game. I'm personally hoping Adelheid returns, since he's an important character in the side-story arc of the Ash Saga. Also, it seems really appropriate to have the son of Rugal (whose always been the boss of dream matches) to take his father's place in this mini-Dream Match.

Antihippy

Oh man.

I hope 2002UM is released here.

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What's Yuri's new HSDM? It'd be nice if they gave her the raging demon again.

And I'm still pulling for her to be in XII. She's been in every other KOF, and she just plain deserves it (and so do I).