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DS > PSP standalone. I'd rather have FF4 DS than Crisis Core, I'd rather have Ace Attorney than just about anything, I'd probably rather have Mario Kart for on-the-go racing than a portable Need for Speed. The PSP is a fine game console, it just seems to have forgotten that it's meant to be a handheld - a lot of PSP games are "Play through once, never again" affairs and there's few true pick up and play handheld games for it.
Personally, I vastly prefer Crisis Core to FF4, because the visual style is actually an improvement, not a downgrade(FF4's sprites are embarassing compared to the likes of FFT's and Disgaea's).
Hey, so, some PSP knowledgeable folks seem to be gathered here today. I have a PSP 3000 on preorder, which will be my first PSP. I also didn't own a PS2, so I am looking forward to finally playing games like Disgaea.
Anyway, was just wondering if anyone knows if homebrew will still work on the 3000? If so, is it expected to work right off the bat using the current methods? Or will I need to wait for clever people to invent new methods?
I am mostly interested in official games and software, so it's not a dealbreaker for me... but it'd be neat to try out the homebrew stuff, too.
DS > PSP standalone. I'd rather have FF4 DS than Crisis Core, I'd rather have Ace Attorney than just about anything, I'd probably rather have Mario Kart for on-the-go racing than a portable Need for Speed. The PSP is a fine game console, it just seems to have forgotten that it's meant to be a handheld - a lot of PSP games are "Play through once, never again" affairs and there's few true pick up and play handheld games for it.
Personally, I vastly prefer Crisis Core to FF4, because the visual style is actually an improvement, not a downgrade(FF4's sprites are embarassing compared to the likes of FFT's and Disgaea's).
Are we seriously comparing Crisis Core and FF4? And on the basis of visual style? One's an action-RPG, one is a remake of a classic JRPG. Apples and oranges, people. I thought we were classier than this.
DS > PSP standalone. I'd rather have FF4 DS than Crisis Core, I'd rather have Ace Attorney than just about anything, I'd probably rather have Mario Kart for on-the-go racing than a portable Need for Speed. The PSP is a fine game console, it just seems to have forgotten that it's meant to be a handheld - a lot of PSP games are "Play through once, never again" affairs and there's few true pick up and play handheld games for it.
Personally, I vastly prefer Crisis Core to FF4, because the visual style is actually an improvement, not a downgrade(FF4's sprites are embarassing compared to the likes of FFT's and Disgaea's).
Are we seriously comparing Crisis Core and FF4? And on the basis of visual style? One's an action-RPG, one is a remake of a classic JRPG. Apples and oranges, people. I thought we were classier than this.
Not to mention that TWEWY destroys them both.
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DS > PSP standalone. I'd rather have FF4 DS than Crisis Core, I'd rather have Ace Attorney than just about anything, I'd probably rather have Mario Kart for on-the-go racing than a portable Need for Speed. The PSP is a fine game console, it just seems to have forgotten that it's meant to be a handheld - a lot of PSP games are "Play through once, never again" affairs and there's few true pick up and play handheld games for it.
Personally, I vastly prefer Crisis Core to FF4, because the visual style is actually an improvement, not a downgrade(FF4's sprites are embarassing compared to the likes of FFT's and Disgaea's).
Are we seriously comparing Crisis Core and FF4? And on the basis of visual style? One's an action-RPG, one is a remake of a classic JRPG. Apples and oranges, people. I thought we were classier than this.
Crisis Core is still a remake, in a very vague sense, since it revisits several locations from FF7 and makes them look vastly superior to the original.
I'd rather look at the SNES/GBA sprites for FFIV than the DS ones. The style of the PSP remakes for FF1&2 would've done the game better justice than the DS version.
Crisis Core is still a remake, in a very vague sense, since it revisits several locations from FF7 and makes them look vastly superior to the original.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.
ok so then in a very vague sense Cabela's Alaskan Adventure for 360 is a remake of Metal Gear Solid. Got it.
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Er, Crisis Core is a prequel to FF7, so there's a few more similarities than that. No, it's not a traditional RPG like the original, but it takes place in almost all the same locations, so you can still draw visual comparisons.
Er, Crisis Core is a prequel to FF7, so there's a few more similarities than that. No, it's not a traditional RPG like the original, but it takes place in almost all the same locations, so you can still draw visual comparisons.
The fundamental issue at hand here is that you're comparing Crisis Core and FF 4 solely based on their visuals, completely ignoring (it would appear) the monumental difference in gameplay between the two. I could sit here arguing with you over this prequel/remake same locations BS, but that's splitting hairs and largely irrelevant.
I agree with you that Crisis Core looks better than FF4. I respect your right to prefer one game over another one. I'm not deriding you for enjoying Crisis Core - I liked it better than FF4, for whatever that's worth. However, I propose that your reasons for liking one game over another should include something other than "it's prettier", especially in a case like this where you are discussing two very different games belonging to two different genres (maybe two different subgenres, if you want to get technical, but whatever).
In any event, I don't really have the urge to play either, since any time I'd be away from my desktop with nothing to do, I'd rather just read, but I do own a PSP, and its an amazing machine. I don't run homebrew on it, but that alone makes it the superior choice in my eyes.
In any event, I don't really have the urge to play either, since any time I'd be away from my desktop with nothing to do, I'd rather just read, but I do own a PSP, and its an amazing machine. I don't run homebrew on it, but that alone makes it the superior choice in my eyes.
well you should because it's got an impressive array of eBook readers on it.
Do you have to buy an extra battery to get the custom firmware and thus homebrew installed? Do you have to have a special game (like GTA or lumines or something) to get the proper firmware on it?
Also I'd put homebrew stuff, mainly for fullscreen TV output, on my PSP, but I'm very hesitant due to fear of bricking the thing.
Yeah, I play around with homebrew and such quite a bit on my PSP... I have had just about everything on it that has been released. Bricking used to be something that I have feared, and yet never once have I had an issue; and now with all of the solid unbricking programs and whatnot there is zero reason to exploit your PSP to the fullest.
I personally have had both the DS and the PSP, I sold the DS a long time ago and never felt eager to return; although I will admit it has a stronger library, BUT if a PSP user is taking full advantage of all of it's capabilities I can assure you its a much more powerful, has a better lasting appeal, larger library, and has a great array of tools and programs that are very useful in day to day life.
Just as a side note: Target.com has a great deal on the Psyclone speaker system for the PSP. My girlfriend bought it for me and is great for music and movies when I was working in an office. Now I keep it at home and it has really good sound for such a small shelf size. These things were going for like 200 new a year or so ago... they can now be purchased for like 20-40 bucks online.
To all: Please stop with uneducated remarks, if you don't have a PSP or when you owned a PSP took advantage of the capabilities you really can't even begin to understand how useful and entertaining it actually is.
And as for crisis core being REMAKE of ff7? Seriously? I hate the game personally; but your a transparent idiot fanboy.
There's so many awesome games on it that are simply not advertised in any way. It was months until I found out that DarkStalkers was out on the PSP, and now I have to go hunting for this!
Haha... Poor OP. Asking this question was like putting a steak in a piranha pool. We're so busy furiously mutilating it, I'm not sure if we've helped the OP at all.
There's so many awesome games on it that are simply not advertised in any way. It was months until I found out that DarkStalkers was out on the PSP, and now I have to go hunting for this!
To be fair, it's Japanese only.
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There's so many awesome games on it that are simply not advertised in any way. It was months until I found out that DarkStalkers was out on the PSP, and now I have to go hunting for this!
To be fair, it's Japanese only.
And it'll probably stay that way.
What's worse is that I think all the import sites know how popular the SRT games are to that crowd, and price them accordingly.
To the OP,
You'll probably be fine and enjoy a PSP plenty if you pick one up. I own both a DS and a PSP, they are both great, have a lot of great games, but vary widely in style and features.
If you go the PSP route, you have the added bonus of media capabilities if you are in to that. Rip some of your DVDs, and put some music on there if you don't already have an MP3 player. That stuff will keep you company at work. As for the retail games, there are a ton available, and I think you would appreciate the console ports seeing as you might have missed out being only a PC gamer. If you want the console experience, but portable, this is the way to go. Online multiplayer you'll be used to and would probably enjoy. The 3000 model has a mic built in so you'll get Skype support out of the box too. As well as a web browser, so if there is wifi at or around your job, this might be an added benefit (text entry is terrible though).
DS is a pure game-playing machine (unless you get potentially illegal stuff), so count out the media functions. There are a ton of games, again, you'd find plenty worth playing. It is more durable, and easier to carry around as it doesn't require a case. A benefit is better battery life than the PSP.
If it was me, and I only played PC games, I'd probably go for the PSP to have something very close to an actual console, and enjoy the ports and similar style of games that don't make their way onto Windows.
PS3 to PSP connectivity is great and easy, especially if you have a japanese PSN ID and purchase a psn card online. I have MGS, Policenauts and Einhander on my memory card to play with on the go when not playing Ace Combat X or FFT.
Thanks for the helpful responses so far. One of the more interesting things mentioned is the ability to play PS1 or PS2 games on the PSP. I owned a PS1 but don't any longer and never owned a PS2 so most of those titles would be new to me.
What would I need to be able to play either on my PSP? I know you can download some games from the Playstation store but what if I went out and bought a PS1 or PS2 game? What would I need to get it onto my PSP? Keep in mind, I own no consoles.
I enjoy my PSP a lot. I could be mauled around here for saying it, but it sees a lot more use than my DS. Between games like monster hunter, MGS portable Ops, God of war, and FF tactics I always have something to play. Not to mention mp3 playback, web browsing, video and homebrew. I've never regretted buying it for a second.
Thanks for the helpful responses so far. One of the more interesting things mentioned is the ability to play PS1 or PS2 games on the PSP. I owned a PS1 but don't any longer and never owned a PS2 so most of those titles would be new to me.
What would I need to be able to play either on my PSP? I know you can download some games from the Playstation store but what if I went out and bought a PS1 or PS2 game? What would I need to get it onto my PSP? Keep in mind, I own no consoles.
Thanks in advance!
The official way is to put PS1 games onto your PSP through the PS3. If you install custom software, though, you can just rip the game disc to your hard drive and then put it on your memory stick, and it should be able to read it. My battery tool hasn't arrived yet, though, so it's more theory on my part at this point.
Also, to whomever asked, the PSP-3000 will be impervious to current homebrew hacks, as are the late-model PSP-2000s. This doesn't necessarily preclude homebrew altogether, but the methods for installing custom firmware do not exist at this point.
I think you're a shill, but whatever. The PSP is superior if multimedia is your thing. But for God's sake don't buy or rent your movies off the Playstation Store (that and your nonsequitur anti-piracy plug make me think you're a shill) - just rip and encode them from DVD's you legally own. To do anything else would be the height of stupidity.
Why do people always put down one product by claiming that the other "has no good games?" At least say that it has no games that you particularly want to play. It's more honest. I hated reading it when people were saying it about the PSP, and now I'm annoyed hearing it about the DS.
I do like the PSP more than the DS... but I'm glad to have both, because the DS has gotten a shit-ton of excellent games this year. Hell, four DS games that I wanted to play just came out in the last three weeks or so (Dragon Quest IV, Lego Batman, Sonic Chronicles, and Disgaea DS... yes, I already have the PSP version, but the DS version has Pleinair... I am a consumer whore). I also bought two PSP games last month... Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (because it was cheaper than the Wii version, and fortunately, is lacking in the crippling bugs of other versions), and, er, Lego Batman. (Hey, it has completely different levels and somewhat different mechanics to the DS version! Shut up! Okay, yes, you're right, I am pathetic. And a consumer whore.) All of them have been fun so far. This is all that I care about. EDIT: In fact, there are quite a few DS games that I haven't been able to afford this year that I would still like to have, like FF IV DS, Shiren The Wanderer, or TWEWY. And more will be coming out, like Castlevania (I have this preordered, actually), Spider-Man: Web of Shadows (check out the thread, Zauron who worked on the excellent GBA Spyro game is working on this, and it looks really fun), and motherfuckin' Chrono Trigger. And then there's the multiplat stuff I'd like to try, like Space Invaders Extreme, or N+... I'm leaning towards the PSP versions of those, but you get the idea. There's no shortage of good DS games, just not enough time to play them.
Also, in the interests of fairness, anyone noting that the DS is somehow diminished by all the awful shovelware overwhelming its game library should take note of what Ubisoft is releasing on the PSP in two weeks. Hooray! Shovelware for all! Yeah, one game =/= the mountains on the DS, but it does show that the PSP is going to get the occasional "kiddy" and/or shovelware game, itself. I might also note that the DS gets more of this stuff because PSP software sales are awful (at least in the US), while DS game sales are still apparently pretty healthy. As with the PS2, when you have a clear market leader, it's going to get more garbage. I don't hear anyone arguing that the PS2's library of excellent games were somehow diminished by the existence of White Van Racer or Animal Soccer World.
Thanks for the helpful responses so far. One of the more interesting things mentioned is the ability to play PS1 or PS2 games on the PSP. I owned a PS1 but don't any longer and never owned a PS2 so most of those titles would be new to me.
What would I need to be able to play either on my PSP? I know you can download some games from the Playstation store but what if I went out and bought a PS1 or PS2 game? What would I need to get it onto my PSP? Keep in mind, I own no consoles.
Thanks in advance!
The official way is to put PS1 games onto your PSP through the PS3. If you install custom software, though, you can just rip the game disc to your hard drive and then put it on your memory stick, and it should be able to read it. My battery tool hasn't arrived yet, though, so it's more theory on my part at this point.
Also, to whomever asked, the PSP-3000 will be impervious to current homebrew hacks, as are the late-model PSP-2000s. This doesn't necessarily preclude homebrew altogether, but the methods for installing custom firmware do not exist at this point.
Also, to whomever asked, the PSP-3000 will be impervious to current homebrew hacks, as are the late-model PSP-2000s. This doesn't necessarily preclude homebrew altogether, but the methods for installing custom firmware do not exist at this point.
Give it like a month.
It was me who asked, so thanks. I've of plenty of official stuff to play through, when my PSP 3000 arrives. I imagine, knowing the internet, that by the time my backlog is slowing down, someone will have figured out how to make the PSP 3000 homebrewable.
Also, to whomever asked, the PSP-3000 will be impervious to current homebrew hacks, as are the late-model PSP-2000s. This doesn't necessarily preclude homebrew altogether, but the methods for installing custom firmware do not exist at this point.
Give it like a month.
It was me who asked, so thanks. I've of plenty of official stuff to play through, when my PSP 3000 arrives. I imagine, knowing the internet, that by the time my backlog is slowing down, someone will have figured out how to make the PSP 3000 homebrewable.
Yeah there is no real question of it happening there. Beyond any shadow of a doubt there will be a way to do it eventually.
I was a day 1 adopter of the PSP, Wipeout Pure sold me on it and I was not dissapointed. Though there was a dearth of games for the system post launch, I still stood by my purchase. I was not unrewarded for my stalwart devotion, new games eventually came along when devs realized that the platform was not going away like other competitors to Nintendo's handhelds. Gems like Jeanne D'arc, Killzone: Liberation, and the two updated Mega Man titles. I purchased a 2000 model without hesitation and it exceeded expectations. It is hands down my favorite handheld system to date. I look forward to the new and improved 3000 model, of which I will doubtless procure.
I am also a proud owner of a sleek black DS lite to match my sleek black PSPs. The game that sold me on a DS was MegaMan ZX, nothing on that system had piqued my interest as much as a new canonical Mega Man game. I have grabbed only a few games for my DS such as TWEWY, both Advance Wars titles, and of course Mega Man ZXA.
For some reason the meme that the "psp has no good games olol" has stuck far longer than it should have. Both systems have excellent libraries now, its up to personal preference to choose your handheld gaming platform should you have to get only one.
My full library that I still own for DS and PSP spoilered below.
DS - 12
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Brain Age
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Contact
Luminous Arc
Mario Kart DS
Mega Man ZX
Mega Man ZX Advent
Puzzle Quest
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
The World Ends With You
PSP - 31
Beats
Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness
Field Commander
Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Gradius Portable (Japanese Import)
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure
Infected
Jeanne D'arc
Killzone: Liberation
Legend of Heroes
Lumines
Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
Mega Man Powered Up
Metal Gear AC!D
Metal Gear AC!D 2
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Slug Anthology
Platypus
Super Star Soldier (Japanese Import)
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Tales of Eternia
Twisted Metal: Head-On
Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade
Untold Legends: The Warriors Code
Wipeout (PSN)
Wipeout Pulse
Wipeout Pure
Yggdra Union
I think you're a shill, but whatever. The PSP is superior if multimedia is your thing. But for God's sake don't buy or rent your movies off the Playstation Store (that and your nonsequitur anti-piracy plug make me think you're a shill) - just rip and encode them from DVD's you legally own. To do anything else would be the height of stupidity.
I like how they just gave up and started adding a digital psp-friendly version on most DVDs or Blu rays.
That's the shmup where you turn the PSP vertically with the D-pad at the bottom, right? I saw someone playing that once and had a serious wtf o_O moment, but then after trying it out, it was awesome.
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I think you're a shill, but whatever. The PSP is superior if multimedia is your thing. But for God's sake don't buy or rent your movies off the Playstation Store (that and your nonsequitur anti-piracy plug make me think you're a shill) - just rip and encode them from DVD's you legally own. To do anything else would be the height of stupidity.
I like how they just gave up and started adding a digital psp-friendly version on most DVDs or Blu rays.
The UMD is truly PSP's biggest enemy.
I'd contend that trying to market a tiny portable gaming device as a platform for home entertainment was misguided. Charging full retail for a movie for one of these things is just adding insult to injury.
I think you're a shill, but whatever. The PSP is superior if multimedia is your thing. But for God's sake don't buy or rent your movies off the Playstation Store (that and your nonsequitur anti-piracy plug make me think you're a shill) - just rip and encode them from DVD's you legally own. To do anything else would be the height of stupidity.
I like how they just gave up and started adding a digital psp-friendly version on most DVDs or Blu rays.
The UMD is truly PSP's biggest enemy.
I'd contend that trying to market a tiny portable gaming device as a platform for home entertainment was misguided. Charging full retail for a movie for one of these things is just adding insult to injury.
That said, it's probably good for long car trips.
no, marketing it as a multimedia device was a great idea, trying to do that by using UMDs rather then downloading content like 99% of all other portable media devices was misguided.
And yes, one extended Battery plus two memory cards can keep you fully entertained for a full 10 hour flight. You can watch most of Arrested Development on the way to Europe.
edit: extended battery BTW was a little strange. It was the one from the old PSP, so it bulged out of the case. It's not a problem if you're holding it and sitting down, but if you move around it will probably fall out. Otherwise that thing lasted about 8 hours.
I think you're a shill, but whatever. The PSP is superior if multimedia is your thing. But for God's sake don't buy or rent your movies off the Playstation Store (that and your nonsequitur anti-piracy plug make me think you're a shill) - just rip and encode them from DVD's you legally own. To do anything else would be the height of stupidity.
Eh?
And if you don't legally own them you suggest going out and buying them just to rip onto your PSP? I'd mostly be renting so that definitely wouldn't make much sense.
Quick off-topic about the piracy thing - I don't oppose piracy because it's piracy. I don't do it for the same reason I don't leave my girlfriend naked, tied-up, and blindfolded in the back streets of detroit. I'd prefer my clean, fast, well-running machine remain free of nasties. Is it possible to delve into the pools of illegal media and come out clean? Sure...but not worth the risk for me.
I think you're a shill, but whatever. The PSP is superior if multimedia is your thing. But for God's sake don't buy or rent your movies off the Playstation Store (that and your nonsequitur anti-piracy plug make me think you're a shill) - just rip and encode them from DVD's you legally own. To do anything else would be the height of stupidity.
Eh?
And if you don't legally own them you suggest going out and buying them just to rip onto your PSP? I'd mostly be renting so that definitely wouldn't make much sense.
Quick off-topic about the piracy thing - I don't oppose piracy because it's piracy. I don't do it for the same reason I don't leave my girlfriend naked, tied-up, and blindfolded in the back streets of detroit. I'd prefer my clean, fast, well-running machine remain free of nasties. Is it possible to delve into the pools of illegal media and come out clean? Sure...but not worth the risk for me.
Ripping your own DVDs/games/legally purchased media isn't piracy.
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Why do people always put down one product by claiming that the other "has no good games?" At least say that it has no games that you particularly want to play. It's more honest. I hated reading it when people were saying it about the PSP, and now I'm annoyed hearing it about the DS.
I think the reason is that people who like one sort of game don't see that game on the other system. If you like roguelikes, the DS is an obvious attraction as it has, what, 3 or 4 recent ones? PSP has 0. If you like stylus-based puzzle games, or lightweight text adventures, again, DS has many, PSP has 0.
So it's easy to see how someone who's into some of the "deeper" titles in the DS library would claim the PSP has nothing. But yes, that doesn't mean that the DS is suddenly better because of it. I couldn't care less about roguelikes, so all the hype around Shiren is moot. I don't really dig rhythm games (although I do enjoy Patapon, but mostly because of the RPG elements), so Ouendan and EBA fall into the same boat. The last game I got for my DS was Phantom Hourglass, which was a lot of fun (until the end of the game, where I got bored). But how many games like Phantom Hourglass, that go for the adventure-game style, are there?
For me, a lot of the DS library is "neat" but not something I've ended up enjoying. I like the ideas used, but not in practice for myself. One odd thing that's made its way into a surprising number of games (and I blame Pokemon for this) are elements in games that require you to encounter another system. No, I don't have any friends who own a DS, nor do I hang out around areas where I might run into one. Most of my gaming is at home, by myself, so when I read in reviews "It even has a feature that lets you unlock more stuff by hooking up with a friend" I'm like "oh great, more stuff in the game I'll never ever see."
So while I think the DS is a great platform, it's not really for everyone. Of course, most of the good PSP games are things that either aren't available on the DS (and won't be), or are graphically complex enough that they couldn't show up on the DS. Its nice that the difference is similar more to the Wii/Other Console divide, where the gaming experiences actually are unique between the consoles.
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Oh god the DS Castlevania games. Portable sex. You can get Symphony of the Night on PSP, and it's great, but I already own the game... twice.
Personally, I vastly prefer Crisis Core to FF4, because the visual style is actually an improvement, not a downgrade(FF4's sprites are embarassing compared to the likes of FFT's and Disgaea's).
Anyway, was just wondering if anyone knows if homebrew will still work on the 3000? If so, is it expected to work right off the bat using the current methods? Or will I need to wait for clever people to invent new methods?
I am mostly interested in official games and software, so it's not a dealbreaker for me... but it'd be neat to try out the homebrew stuff, too.
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Are we seriously comparing Crisis Core and FF4? And on the basis of visual style? One's an action-RPG, one is a remake of a classic JRPG. Apples and oranges, people. I thought we were classier than this.
Not to mention that TWEWY destroys them both.
Crisis Core is still a remake, in a very vague sense, since it revisits several locations from FF7 and makes them look vastly superior to the original.
I'd rather look at the SNES/GBA sprites for FFIV than the DS ones. The style of the PSP remakes for FF1&2 would've done the game better justice than the DS version.
ok so then in a very vague sense Cabela's Alaskan Adventure for 360 is a remake of Metal Gear Solid. Got it.
The fundamental issue at hand here is that you're comparing Crisis Core and FF 4 solely based on their visuals, completely ignoring (it would appear) the monumental difference in gameplay between the two. I could sit here arguing with you over this prequel/remake same locations BS, but that's splitting hairs and largely irrelevant.
I agree with you that Crisis Core looks better than FF4. I respect your right to prefer one game over another one. I'm not deriding you for enjoying Crisis Core - I liked it better than FF4, for whatever that's worth. However, I propose that your reasons for liking one game over another should include something other than "it's prettier", especially in a case like this where you are discussing two very different games belonging to two different genres (maybe two different subgenres, if you want to get technical, but whatever).
In any event, I don't really have the urge to play either, since any time I'd be away from my desktop with nothing to do, I'd rather just read, but I do own a PSP, and its an amazing machine. I don't run homebrew on it, but that alone makes it the superior choice in my eyes.
well you should because it's got an impressive array of eBook readers on it.
Yeah, I play around with homebrew and such quite a bit on my PSP... I have had just about everything on it that has been released. Bricking used to be something that I have feared, and yet never once have I had an issue; and now with all of the solid unbricking programs and whatnot there is zero reason to exploit your PSP to the fullest.
I personally have had both the DS and the PSP, I sold the DS a long time ago and never felt eager to return; although I will admit it has a stronger library, BUT if a PSP user is taking full advantage of all of it's capabilities I can assure you its a much more powerful, has a better lasting appeal, larger library, and has a great array of tools and programs that are very useful in day to day life.
Just as a side note: Target.com has a great deal on the Psyclone speaker system for the PSP. My girlfriend bought it for me and is great for music and movies when I was working in an office. Now I keep it at home and it has really good sound for such a small shelf size. These things were going for like 200 new a year or so ago... they can now be purchased for like 20-40 bucks online.
To all: Please stop with uneducated remarks, if you don't have a PSP or when you owned a PSP took advantage of the capabilities you really can't even begin to understand how useful and entertaining it actually is.
And as for crisis core being REMAKE of ff7? Seriously? I hate the game personally; but your a transparent idiot fanboy.
It's enough for me.
See.... this is what I HATE about the PSP!
There's so many awesome games on it that are simply not advertised in any way. It was months until I found out that DarkStalkers was out on the PSP, and now I have to go hunting for this!
To be fair, it's Japanese only.
And it'll probably stay that way.
What's worse is that I think all the import sites know how popular the SRT games are to that crowd, and price them accordingly.
$74.99 for a PS2 game? Seriously? Get real.
You'll probably be fine and enjoy a PSP plenty if you pick one up. I own both a DS and a PSP, they are both great, have a lot of great games, but vary widely in style and features.
If you go the PSP route, you have the added bonus of media capabilities if you are in to that. Rip some of your DVDs, and put some music on there if you don't already have an MP3 player. That stuff will keep you company at work. As for the retail games, there are a ton available, and I think you would appreciate the console ports seeing as you might have missed out being only a PC gamer. If you want the console experience, but portable, this is the way to go. Online multiplayer you'll be used to and would probably enjoy. The 3000 model has a mic built in so you'll get Skype support out of the box too. As well as a web browser, so if there is wifi at or around your job, this might be an added benefit (text entry is terrible though).
DS is a pure game-playing machine (unless you get potentially illegal stuff), so count out the media functions. There are a ton of games, again, you'd find plenty worth playing. It is more durable, and easier to carry around as it doesn't require a case. A benefit is better battery life than the PSP.
If it was me, and I only played PC games, I'd probably go for the PSP to have something very close to an actual console, and enjoy the ports and similar style of games that don't make their way onto Windows.
Thanks for the helpful responses so far. One of the more interesting things mentioned is the ability to play PS1 or PS2 games on the PSP. I owned a PS1 but don't any longer and never owned a PS2 so most of those titles would be new to me.
What would I need to be able to play either on my PSP? I know you can download some games from the Playstation store but what if I went out and bought a PS1 or PS2 game? What would I need to get it onto my PSP? Keep in mind, I own no consoles.
Thanks in advance!
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You need to download the Exult PSP program, then the games from abandonware sites, then go to exult.sourceforge.net/ and download the sound files.
If you have a psp and have never played these games i seriously suggest doing so.
This adds yet another amazing thing i can do with my psp. Jesus himself blessed this device with his virgin tears.
The official way is to put PS1 games onto your PSP through the PS3. If you install custom software, though, you can just rip the game disc to your hard drive and then put it on your memory stick, and it should be able to read it. My battery tool hasn't arrived yet, though, so it's more theory on my part at this point.
Also, to whomever asked, the PSP-3000 will be impervious to current homebrew hacks, as are the late-model PSP-2000s. This doesn't necessarily preclude homebrew altogether, but the methods for installing custom firmware do not exist at this point.
I do like the PSP more than the DS... but I'm glad to have both, because the DS has gotten a shit-ton of excellent games this year. Hell, four DS games that I wanted to play just came out in the last three weeks or so (Dragon Quest IV, Lego Batman, Sonic Chronicles, and Disgaea DS... yes, I already have the PSP version, but the DS version has Pleinair... I am a consumer whore). I also bought two PSP games last month... Star Wars: The Force Unleashed (because it was cheaper than the Wii version, and fortunately, is lacking in the crippling bugs of other versions), and, er, Lego Batman. (Hey, it has completely different levels and somewhat different mechanics to the DS version! Shut up! Okay, yes, you're right, I am pathetic. And a consumer whore.) All of them have been fun so far. This is all that I care about. EDIT: In fact, there are quite a few DS games that I haven't been able to afford this year that I would still like to have, like FF IV DS, Shiren The Wanderer, or TWEWY. And more will be coming out, like Castlevania (I have this preordered, actually), Spider-Man: Web of Shadows (check out the thread, Zauron who worked on the excellent GBA Spyro game is working on this, and it looks really fun), and motherfuckin' Chrono Trigger. And then there's the multiplat stuff I'd like to try, like Space Invaders Extreme, or N+... I'm leaning towards the PSP versions of those, but you get the idea. There's no shortage of good DS games, just not enough time to play them.
Also, in the interests of fairness, anyone noting that the DS is somehow diminished by all the awful shovelware overwhelming its game library should take note of what Ubisoft is releasing on the PSP in two weeks. Hooray! Shovelware for all! Yeah, one game =/= the mountains on the DS, but it does show that the PSP is going to get the occasional "kiddy" and/or shovelware game, itself. I might also note that the DS gets more of this stuff because PSP software sales are awful (at least in the US), while DS game sales are still apparently pretty healthy. As with the PS2, when you have a clear market leader, it's going to get more garbage. I don't hear anyone arguing that the PS2's library of excellent games were somehow diminished by the existence of White Van Racer or Animal Soccer World.
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I am also a proud owner of a sleek black DS lite to match my sleek black PSPs. The game that sold me on a DS was MegaMan ZX, nothing on that system had piqued my interest as much as a new canonical Mega Man game. I have grabbed only a few games for my DS such as TWEWY, both Advance Wars titles, and of course Mega Man ZXA.
For some reason the meme that the "psp has no good games olol" has stuck far longer than it should have. Both systems have excellent libraries now, its up to personal preference to choose your handheld gaming platform should you have to get only one.
My full library that I still own for DS and PSP spoilered below.
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Advance Wars: Dual Strike
Brain Age
Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
Contact
Luminous Arc
Mario Kart DS
Mega Man ZX
Mega Man ZX Advent
Puzzle Quest
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass
The World Ends With You
PSP - 31
Beats
Castlevania: Dracula X Chronicles
Disgaea: Afternoon of Darkness
Field Commander
Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Gradius Portable (Japanese Import)
Gurumin: A Monstrous Adventure
Infected
Jeanne D'arc
Killzone: Liberation
Legend of Heroes
Lumines
Mega Man Maverick Hunter X
Mega Man Powered Up
Metal Gear AC!D
Metal Gear AC!D 2
Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops
Metal Slug Anthology
Platypus
Super Star Soldier (Japanese Import)
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror
Tales of Eternia
Twisted Metal: Head-On
Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade
Untold Legends: The Warriors Code
Wipeout (PSN)
Wipeout Pulse
Wipeout Pure
Yggdra Union
I like how they just gave up and started adding a digital psp-friendly version on most DVDs or Blu rays.
The UMD is truly PSP's biggest enemy.
That's the shmup where you turn the PSP vertically with the D-pad at the bottom, right? I saw someone playing that once and had a serious wtf o_O moment, but then after trying it out, it was awesome.
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I'd contend that trying to market a tiny portable gaming device as a platform for home entertainment was misguided. Charging full retail for a movie for one of these things is just adding insult to injury.
That said, it's probably good for long car trips.
no, marketing it as a multimedia device was a great idea, trying to do that by using UMDs rather then downloading content like 99% of all other portable media devices was misguided.
And yes, one extended Battery plus two memory cards can keep you fully entertained for a full 10 hour flight. You can watch most of Arrested Development on the way to Europe.
edit: extended battery BTW was a little strange. It was the one from the old PSP, so it bulged out of the case. It's not a problem if you're holding it and sitting down, but if you move around it will probably fall out. Otherwise that thing lasted about 8 hours.
Eh?
And if you don't legally own them you suggest going out and buying them just to rip onto your PSP? I'd mostly be renting so that definitely wouldn't make much sense.
Quick off-topic about the piracy thing - I don't oppose piracy because it's piracy. I don't do it for the same reason I don't leave my girlfriend naked, tied-up, and blindfolded in the back streets of detroit. I'd prefer my clean, fast, well-running machine remain free of nasties. Is it possible to delve into the pools of illegal media and come out clean? Sure...but not worth the risk for me.
Ripping your own DVDs/games/legally purchased media isn't piracy.
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I think the reason is that people who like one sort of game don't see that game on the other system. If you like roguelikes, the DS is an obvious attraction as it has, what, 3 or 4 recent ones? PSP has 0. If you like stylus-based puzzle games, or lightweight text adventures, again, DS has many, PSP has 0.
So it's easy to see how someone who's into some of the "deeper" titles in the DS library would claim the PSP has nothing. But yes, that doesn't mean that the DS is suddenly better because of it. I couldn't care less about roguelikes, so all the hype around Shiren is moot. I don't really dig rhythm games (although I do enjoy Patapon, but mostly because of the RPG elements), so Ouendan and EBA fall into the same boat. The last game I got for my DS was Phantom Hourglass, which was a lot of fun (until the end of the game, where I got bored). But how many games like Phantom Hourglass, that go for the adventure-game style, are there?
For me, a lot of the DS library is "neat" but not something I've ended up enjoying. I like the ideas used, but not in practice for myself. One odd thing that's made its way into a surprising number of games (and I blame Pokemon for this) are elements in games that require you to encounter another system. No, I don't have any friends who own a DS, nor do I hang out around areas where I might run into one. Most of my gaming is at home, by myself, so when I read in reviews "It even has a feature that lets you unlock more stuff by hooking up with a friend" I'm like "oh great, more stuff in the game I'll never ever see."
So while I think the DS is a great platform, it's not really for everyone. Of course, most of the good PSP games are things that either aren't available on the DS (and won't be), or are graphically complex enough that they couldn't show up on the DS. Its nice that the difference is similar more to the Wii/Other Console divide, where the gaming experiences actually are unique between the consoles.