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[Discussion On] KotOR

Golden LegGolden Leg Registered User regular
edited October 2008 in Games and Technology
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A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away ...


STAR WARS

KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC

Four thousand years before
the rise of the Galactic
Empire, the Republic verges
on collapse. DARTH MALAK,
last surviving apprentice of
the Dark Lord Revan, has
unleashed an invincible
Sith armada upon an
unsuspecting galaxy.

Crushing all resistance,
Malak's war of conquest
has left the Jedi Order
scattered and vulnerable
as countless Knights fall in
battle, and many more
swear allegiance to the new
Sith Master.

In the skies obove the Outer
Rim world of Taris, a Jedi
battle fleet engages the
forces of Darth Malak in a
desperate effort to halt the
Sith's galactic domination....

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And so it begins. Nameless grunt a.k.a. You, get to pick from a handful of classes and use your guile, gut, or thick head to bring down Malak and bring peace to/take over the galaxy.

You also get a sweet ship, the Ebon Hawk, in which all of your cronies hang out.

Cronies like this fool.

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I hear she's got, like, some kind of mind powers or something.

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Let's not forget everyone's favorite cantankerous, wrinkled ass.

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And not last, and certainly not least, this hunk of junk.

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Whether you like Star Wars or not, this game is one of the best RPGs ever made. Deep characters, a neat alignment system, tremendous plot, and fresh setting made for one helluva time. Not to mention the plot twist to end all plot twists.

It also has a sequel, which is fan-fucking-tastic except for a few "minor" blemishes.

And for those of you who want to play, but the thought of 1024 x 768 makes you cry, hit this up. KotOR Resolution Mod. Or, in the case of KotOR II, this.

tl;dr I'm replaying this game for the first time in 5 years and having an awesome time. We should talk about it.

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  • El ExtremoEl Extremo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I actually just got this game like a week ago, and just got to Dantooine. I'm having a blast with it.

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  • hoodie13hoodie13 punch bro Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    nostalgia my ass, it's only like 4 years old!

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  • TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    nostalgia my ass, it's only like 4 years old!

    I was thinking the same thing...

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  • Canada_jezusCanada_jezus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The void of decent rpgs has made it seem older i guess. Well void, yeah void i guess.

    I hated how long it took before you got jedilicious and also how much content i had to go through without HK. Other than that fantastic, bought it twice.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    OH MASTER

    I DO NOT TRUST YOU

    I CANNOT TRUST YOU OR ANYONE EVER AGAIN

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited October 2008
    Although I'm sure everyone here knows already, you forgot to mention that it has the best twist, you know, ever.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    jolee bindo's story about the boy and the snake is excellent

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  • ShimShamShimSham Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I tried to pick up and play this again earlier this summer.

    Then I remembered it took me 40+ hours the first time. And remembered it took a ridiculous amount of time before you even get off the first space station.

    I just don't have the will to invest that kind of time again.

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  • arod_77arod_77 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2008
    I loved this game.

    I will note however that the alignment system was not revolutionary four years ago

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i remember having a level 3 soldier save ready and waiting for jedi training on dantooine so I could be a crazy awesome badass.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    i remember having a level 3 soldier save ready and waiting for jedi training on dantooine so I could be a crazy awesome badass.

    Way to not be hardcore at all.

    I did many a level 2 scoundrel runs.

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i was committed to using knight's speed and flurry to one shot bosses.

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  • Golden LegGolden Leg Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I feel really stupid for saving Tatooine for last in my list of planets to hit up. That means less HK. However, this is the first time I've taken Jolee around for several spins, and he's awesome.

    Does anyone ever do anything with Juhani?

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  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    i always killed her. i never needed her and she was a furry.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Golden Leg wrote: »
    I feel really stupid for saving Tatooine for last in my list of planets to hit up. That means less HK. However, this is the first time I've taken Jolee around for several spins, and he's awesome.

    Does anyone ever do anything with Juhani?

    Meh...why would I use Juhani when I had Bastila and Jolee(people I didn't hate)?

    Never killed her though...but I was a light-side chickenwuss who always settled things through communication and sometimes lightsabers.

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  • RenzoRenzo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Juhani was my tank in my no saber dark side playthrough

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  • Lord YodLord Yod Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Man I played this for the first time ever a month ago. It's really awesome but I think I would have preferred something closer to the tabletop RPG system. (Vitality points and whatnot)

    The plot was outstanding though, probably the only games that compare have come from the same company.

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  • ThetherooThetheroo Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    My favorite RPG series of all time.

    Is this a discussion on the first KOTOR or the entire series?

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  • Golden LegGolden Leg Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Never killed her though...but I was a light-side chickenwuss who always settled things through communication and sometimes lightsabers.

    I have to admit, going scoundrel->consular and upping persuade has been fun. The combat isn't the high point of the game for me, so alternative methods are enjoyable.
    Thetheroo wrote: »
    Is this a discussion on the first KOTOR or the entire series?

    We might as well do both.

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  • DisruptorX2DisruptorX2 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    TimFiji wrote: »
    hoodie13 wrote: »
    nostalgia my ass, it's only like 4 years old!

    I was thinking the same thing...

    Y'all remember that Onion article that went something to the effect of "US Department of Retro warns: we are running out of past". Pretty much sums it up. You can't be nostalgic for 4 years ago! :x

    Kotor is a pretty damn good game, though.

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  • Golden LegGolden Leg Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No more nostalgia for you fools.

    Is it worth doing the missions for the GenoHaradan? I've done a few of them on Manaan, but going back and forth between planets isn't entirely appealing.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    i always killed her. i never needed her and she was a furry.


    Also, she had a red lightsaber which I really wanted.

    As for the game, I bought this and an Xbox with my first tax return ever, and it died as soon as I finished the game. It knew it had served its purpose well.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    tyrannus wrote: »
    jolee bindo's story about the boy and the snake is excellent

    I really like the one about the guy with the amazing destiny and breath like a bantha

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  • DartboyDartboy Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Khavall wrote: »
    OH MASTER

    I DO NOT TRUST YOU

    I CANNOT TRUST YOU OR ANYONE EVER AGAIN

    NOW LET US PRESS OUR SLIMY, MUCOUS COVERED LIPS TOGETHER IN THE CARGO HOLD

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  • DeadOnArrivalDeadOnArrival Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Khavall wrote: »
    OH MASTER

    I DO NOT TRUST YOU

    I CANNOT TRUST YOU OR ANYONE EVER AGAIN

    That sound byte is gold and needs to be posted.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Khavall wrote: »
    OH MASTER

    I DO NOT TRUST YOU

    I CANNOT TRUST YOU OR ANYONE EVER AGAIN

    That sound byte is gold and needs to be posted.

    Hopefully with some Linkin Park playing in the background.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KOTOR was pretty good.
    Combat was kinda meh, though, and the graphics suffered from that special Star Wars blandess.
    Guess that couldn't be helped, though.

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  • AmphetamineAmphetamine Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm working my way through the first KOTOR really sporadically, but I am really loving this game. Is the second one worth getting?

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The second one is worthy 90% of the game. The final planet is very terrible, as a direct result of Lucasarts demand to have the game make the holiday season that year. There is a mod to restore most of the cut crap being made, but afaik it's still not finished.

    The story in Kotor II is actually a lot more subtle then in Kotor I, too bad that rushjobs made it a bit non-transparent and easy to miss. It's one of the wordiest games out there too. But gameplaywise II > I, and character wise too. There's an excellent SA Let's Play of Kotor II for those with no time/monies btw.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KOTOR2 restoration mod is apparantly almost done.

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  • MongerMonger I got the ham stink. Dallas, TXRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Dartboy wrote: »
    Khavall wrote: »
    OH MASTER

    I DO NOT TRUST YOU

    I CANNOT TRUST YOU OR ANYONE EVER AGAIN

    NOW LET US PRESS OUR SLIMY, MUCOUS COVERED LIPS TOGETHER IN THE CARGO HOLD
    Oh, Obsidian. You and your lack of subtlety in poking fun at Bioware.
    My love for KotOR II knows no bounds.

    Edit: Because it must be posted.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Recently went back and replayed the KOTOR series in reverse order.

    Poor KOTOR1 has not held up well at all. :(

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  • Tyler the GreatTyler the Great Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I cannot recommend that Lets Play enough. Its pretty great.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So, I just got around to playing KotOR. I beat it light side last weekend, and dark side this weekend. My thoughts:

    1. One of the better plot twists in a game, but I kinda saw it coming. :/

    2. HK-47 is awesome. Also, by the time you get him, you can pretty much have all his upgrades if your Repair is around 15-ish, making him a powerhouse early on. (Tatooine was the first planet I visited both runs.)

    3. Light Side powers are for wussies.

    4. Both endings are a bit lackluster.

    5. Bastila is totally hot.

    In the end, I really enjoyed this game; it's pretty rare for me to to back to back runs of anything. Went Scout/Sentinal both times, because Repair and Computers are too awesome. I made the mistake of going Heavy Armor both times before learning that the Force Powers I wanted are locked to Jedi Armor (lame).

    So, is KotOR 2 worth picking up?

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Houn wrote: »
    So, is KotOR 2 worth picking up?

    BUY IT NOW BUY IT AGAIN


    BUY IT BUY IT BUY IT


    WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.



    SERIOUSLY BUY IT HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE PLAYED IT

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  • PunkBoyPunkBoy Thank you! And thank you again! Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I love how in KotOR 2 you can totally break the game with customization and feats.

    Yes, I would like a 14-20 crit range, please!

    Was it also in 2 that you can pull off an insane number of attacks in a round with Master Speed and Master Flurry/Rapid Shot?

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    PunkBoy wrote: »
    I love how in KotOR 2 you can totally break the game with customization and feats.

    Yes, I would like a 14-20 crit range, please!

    Was it also in 2 that you can pull off an insane number of attacks in a round with Master Speed and Master Flurry/Rapid Shot?

    I remember abusing the dragon glitch...went from level 21 to level 40...pretty much took all the difficulty out of the game. But I was the baddest Jedi in the galaxy so it was worth it(also using force lightning at full lightside and not caring about the penalty was fun).

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  • Golden LegGolden Leg Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KotOR II is pretty great, though the end is ridiculous. I'll be playing it after I finish KotOR.

    Replaying this series has me fallen in love with Star Wars again.

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  • The_ScarabThe_Scarab Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    KOTOR 1 > KOTOR 2

    Yeah, I went there. Wanna fight about it?

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  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Anyone in KOTOR 1 who didn't pick Guardian was either stupid or was purposely trying to make the game harder. Sentinels are pansies. At least KOTOR 2 had good reasons for all three classes, even though Guardian was still the best since you had ol' Spikyhead for your skills.

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