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Guns N' Roses - Chinese Democracy, November 24th

Mr BubblesMr Bubbles David Koresh SuperstarRegistered User regular
edited November 2008 in Debate and/or Discourse
So after more than a decade, hiring, firing and re-hiring members to form a patchwork session group, song debuts in videogames, Axl Rose has finally decided to release his masturbatory magnum opus 'Chinese Democracy' onto a frightened world

http://news.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/hi/music/newsid_7686000/7686272.stm

Think it will actually come out this time?

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  • Gorilla SaladGorilla Salad Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Damn.

    I was hoping that it and Duke nukem forever would be released at the same time.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Isn't this to music what Duke Nukem Forever is to gaming?

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  • TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    No one cares anymore.

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  • Mr BubblesMr Bubbles David Koresh Superstar Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
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    Calling it now

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  • RenegadeSilenceRenegadeSilence Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Tav wrote: »
    No one cares anymore.
    I kinda do, because of free Dr. Pepper:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2735728520080327
    that is the extent of my caring.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Shackler's Revenge was complete ass. I have little desire to sample the rest. If I get a hankering for some GnR, I'll pop in some Appetite for Destruction.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Here's the first single, the title track from the album.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQ5-8ctG4c

    I've never liked the band so I'm indifferent but it can't hurt to post it.

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    edited October 2008
    Cloudman wrote: »
    it can't hurt to post it.

    Or can it?

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  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Oh hey, Axl Rose is still a douchebag? What a surprise.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Feral wrote: »
    Cloudman wrote: »
    it can't hurt to post it.

    Or can it?
    Hey, at least it has a nice screamy bit before the rest of the song kicks in.

    Personally I think it's just generic enough to hit the top of the rock charts. Do I detect a hint of Nickelback in there?

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I saw GnR in at the Hammerstein Ballroom a few years ago. I like GnR, but I don't like that I like GnR.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Dude, GnR in their prime were awesome. Axl + Slash = joy.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Dude, GnR in their prime were awesome. Axl + Slash = joy.

    Slash is holding less of a grudge than you people.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Dude, GnR in their prime were awesome. Axl + Slash = joy.

    Pretty much. Two musical acts introduced me to the English language: Nas, and GnR. Everyone crap talks GnR for their zany antics, but they'll always be a staple in my 'I smile when I hear this song' repertoire.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Organichu wrote: »
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Dude, GnR in their prime were awesome. Axl + Slash = joy.

    Pretty much. Two musical acts introduced me to the English language: Nas, and GnR. Everyone crap talks GnR for their zany antics, but they'll always be a staple in my 'I smile when I hear this song' repertoire.

    My daughter absolutely loves Sweet Child o' Mine. Songs for all ages!

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  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I absolutely love GnR, but I hate, hate Axl Rose.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2008
    Yes, Axl is a flaming cockbite. But he makes good music.

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  • GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Nobody can do the snake dance like Axl.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    RenegadeSilence wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    No one cares anymore.
    I kinda do, because of free Dr. Pepper:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2735728520080327
    that is the extent of my caring.
    Oh fuck yeah.

    Quid on
  • useless4useless4 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The new single is horrible, as in it actually taints old gnr!

    I really like the songs Madagascar and There Was A Time (At least the live and leaked versions so far, haven't heard the album version)... so I have hope there may be one or two decent songs on the album, this song out now is so horribly generic and the chorus is totally missing in action.

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  • CherrnCherrn Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    They played the new single in the radio today. Horrible, horrible music. I was never a huge fan of GnR, but I could always appreciate their work. This, I don't know, it's very dull and otherwise lacking in creativity. It might as well be some shitty nu metal band for all I know.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    RenegadeSilence wrote: »
    Tav wrote: »
    No one cares anymore.
    I kinda do, because of free Dr. Pepper:
    http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN2735728520080327
    that is the extent of my caring.
    Reuters wrote:
    Rose responded on his band's web site (http://www.gunsnroses.com) that the band was "surprised and very happy to have the support of Dr Pepper." But the offer did not prompt him to rose to the challenge.
    Oh, you.

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  • Ant000Ant000 Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I'm way more excited for Slash's tentative Santana-esque (in terms of guest singers) solo album.


    GNR is one of my favorite bands, but it was much more than the sum of it's parts.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Where do we sign for the free soda?

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  • TrevorTrevor Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I like Guns and Roses about as much as being vomited on by the homeless, but I've got a friend that's absolutely crazy about them. I have no interest in the music, but it'll be interesting to see how this vaporware of a CD splits the fanbase. I hear some of those people can make NMA looks like a bunch of civilized and open-minded adults that like to consult maturely about the Fallout series.

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  • Mikey CTSMikey CTS Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The album is finally releasing? Like for reals? Huh, guess I owe my friend ten bucks for that beat we made.

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  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Where do we sign for the free soda?
    See I think this is the important thing people are missing. I don't care what whatsisface does so long as it gets me a Dr. Pepper.

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  • DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I haven't listened to GNR for years, although I always liked them as a teenager, and I still enjoy it if Don't Cry or something comes on the radio unexpectedly (Kind of like how I never, ever listen to Stairway to Heaven anymore - I want to enjoy it when it comes around, not get burnt out on it). I've been loosely following Chinese Democracy since before I graduated from high school, and I liked a few of the earlier releases (Madagascar) at the time.

    That said, this single fucking sucks. If this is what's supposed to get us excited enough to buy the album I'd hate to hear the tracks they weren't as confident with. I've got lots of other things I could spend $15 on. Velvet Revolver was much better than this. Hell, Snakepit was better than this.

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  • Arch Guru XXArch Guru XX Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Never got to see GnR live, but when I saw Velvet Revolver they did two GnR songs (I think they were 'It's so Easy' and 'Don't Cry') - it was absolutely fucking awesome. And 'Coma' off Use Your Illusion I still ranks as one of my favorite songs ever.

    I will probably pick the CD up, but I don't hold out high hopes for it. It's been in development for what, 10 years? How could it possibly live up to any expectations? But hell, GnR's one of my favorite bands, I'll give it a chance.

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  • OmeksOmeks Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I wonder if Rock Band will put out the CD, since they're all up in Shackler's Revenge's stuff.

    I hope not. That would mean a longer wait for albums that matter, like Texas Flood and The Colour and the Shape.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Sounds like what I'd imagined- Axl Rose singing with a Guns N Roses cover band that sounds like some kid playing licks out of a book on garageband coupled with 1993 "soundscapes" that have more to do with bad mashups than My Bloody Valentine.

    If the rest of the album is like this I don't see it having any defenders anywhere; I mean even The Mars Volta have some interesting musical ideas, which is why they have fans that put up with the immense wankery. I'm not sure I hear any talent making up for it in this single.

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  • TubularLuggageTubularLuggage Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    So Use Your Illusion II had a song on it called "14 Years", which is how long it has taken to record a follow up. Interesting.

    The album definitely doesn't sound good enough to justify 14 years of work. Hell, if it had been released with the current material a normal amount of time after Use Your Illusion, it would've probably been considered just okay. On top of that, releasing it exclusively at one store? Really?

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  • His CorkinessHis Corkiness Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    TubularLuggage wrote: »
    So Use Your Illusion II had a song on it called "14 Years", which is how long it has taken to record a follow up. Interesting.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Axl had kept it behind closed doors this long just for that reason.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    The CD only being sold at one store may seem like a weird move, but you have to consider the precedent here: the Eagles only sold their last CD at Walmart and it moved 680000 units on Week 1, which is a lot for the fucking Eagles. AC/DC did the same thing with their new CD and early projections have it selling 800000 units this week. I expect this will put up similar numbers. As lame as the single is, it's obviously radio-ready and sounds pretty similar to the other generic rock bands out there (Nickelback, Hinder, Puddle of Mudd, etc). It'll get a lot of play, like it or not.

    I'm in the "not" category, but at least I'll get a free soda out of it.

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  • SamSam Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Is Guns N Roses really big enough to still matter after 14 years even without all the bullshit? I mean as much as they wanted to be, they weren't quite Aerosmith or Led Zep.

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  • Smug DucklingSmug Duckling Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Well, even if they were a great band (which I think they were), this is really just an Axl Rose solo album. It's not GnR at all.

    He's not even the good part of GnR. He's the part that I tolerated to get to the tasty guitar.

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood My baby's in there someplace She crawled right inRegistered User regular
    edited October 2008
    Who knows whether the CD will actually be popular in the long run but I wouldn't be surprised if it pushes a lot of copies. It'll have a big debut at the very least, although if the album really sucks it'll drop like a fly. I think you'll get a lot of people who are curious to see if the wait was worth it, and you'll get a lot of the guys who grew up listening to Appetite for Destruction who are old now.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products, Transition Team regular
    edited October 2008
    I am buying this on day one.

    Shit, if I bought the Spaghetti Incident, I'll buy this one.

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  • FallingmanFallingman Registered User regular
    edited October 2008
    I didnt think the single was too bad.
    It wasn't an instant classic or anything... Though interestingly, Syndalis - your avatar is nodding its head in time to the song right now. This is creepy.

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