pony's is way more confusingly notated so I'm not going to check it, but I think marsh and anyone else who legitly solved this is fucking rad as hell
f u it is easier to read
i used letters and spoilered flowcharts and everything
i hate you guys
i mean marsh obviously solved it first but
Oh come one, we are all winners here. How many pages of notes did you use? It took me like three starting off from a weighing of 5 vs. 5 and moving from there.
pony's is way more confusingly notated so I'm not going to check it, but I think marsh and anyone else who legitly solved this is fucking rad as hell
f u it is easier to read
i used letters and spoilered flowcharts and everything
i hate you guys
i mean marsh obviously solved it first but
Oh come one, we are all winners here. How many pages of notes did you use? It took me like three starting off from a weighing of 5 vs. 5 and moving from there.
I may have this totally wrong. Somebody check my logic.
If you light a string at both ends it should take half an hour to burn through.
Light one string at both ends, and the other at a single end.
When the first string is finished, then the second string should be half burnt. Light up the other side and it will complete its burn in 15 minutes.
That adds up to 45 mins.
if it's half burnt, that means it's already 30 minutes through its burn, so however long it takes to burn the rest is 30/2 = 15 minutes so yeah that looks like the answer
It isn't. Remember how it was noted that the first 99% of the rope can take 1min to burn and the other 1% to take 59min?
I may have this totally wrong. Somebody check my logic.
If you light a string at both ends it should take half an hour to burn through.
Light one string at both ends, and the other at a single end.
When the first string is finished, then the second string should be half burnt. Light up the other side and it will complete its burn in 15 minutes.
That adds up to 45 mins.
if it's half burnt, that means it's already 30 minutes through its burn, so however long it takes to burn the rest is 30/2 = 15 minutes so yeah that looks like the answer
It isn't. Remember how it was noted that the first 99% of the rope can take 1min to burn and the other 1% to take 59min?
I may have this totally wrong. Somebody check my logic.
If you light a string at both ends it should take half an hour to burn through.
Light one string at both ends, and the other at a single end.
When the first string is finished, then the second string should be half burnt. Light up the other side and it will complete its burn in 15 minutes.
That adds up to 45 mins.
if it's half burnt, that means it's already 30 minutes through its burn, so however long it takes to burn the rest is 30/2 = 15 minutes so yeah that looks like the answer
It isn't. Remember how it was noted that the first 99% of the rope can take 1min to burn and the other 1% to take 59min?
Incorrect. The only thing that prevents you from doing is cutting the ropes at any point in their length. It does not change the amount of time measured by the burning.
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I got onto my answer pretty quick. about 3 false starts.
OF course,
1) I am slightly drunk
2) I haven't posted my solution
ergo, there's no guarantee mine is correct.
Looking at it, I think there's some key differences in each of ours when we get to the 3vs3 weighing. marsh did HHL v HHL, Pony did HHL v HLN, I did HHL v LLH
I may have this totally wrong. Somebody check my logic.
If you light a string at both ends it should take half an hour to burn through.
Light one string at both ends, and the other at a single end.
When the first string is finished, then the second string should be half burnt. Light up the other side and it will complete its burn in 15 minutes.
That adds up to 45 mins.
if it's half burnt, that means it's already 30 minutes through its burn, so however long it takes to burn the rest is 30/2 = 15 minutes so yeah that looks like the answer
It isn't. Remember how it was noted that the first 99% of the rope can take 1min to burn and the other 1% to take 59min?
I don't think that matters, because wherever it's "Middle" is doesn't matter. They could both burn into each other in the last 1% of one side but it would still take half an hour.
I got onto my answer pretty quick. about 3 false starts.
OF course,
1) I am slightly drunk
2) I haven't posted my solution
ergo, there's no guarantee mine is correct.
Looking at it, I think there's some key differences in each of ours when we get to the 3vs3 weighing. marsh did HHL v HHL, Pony did HHL v HLN, I did HHL v LLH
I don't know about HHL vs HLN, but I'm pretty sure HHL vs. LLH can't work. That was Marsh's first try, and while he came up with the correct solution (HHL) I was busy trying everything I possibly could from LLH. I came very, very close, but I couldn't solve from there. You should double-check yours just in case. I could be wrong, of course, so posting it would let everyone check.
I know the answer to Dru's Wheel of Misfortune but only because I heard it a while ago, and I'd come up with the wrong answer every way I went about it (I knew the wrong answer) until finally it just clicked.
I won't explain it on here though. Unless someone really begs and sends me some gift cards to neat places.
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I would also be really surprised now if there were two correct solutions. Has anyone checked Pony's? Is it really HHL vs. HLN (Pony could answer this better than anyone I guess) and if so, does it really work?
I got onto my answer pretty quick. about 3 false starts.
OF course,
1) I am slightly drunk
2) I haven't posted my solution
ergo, there's no guarantee mine is correct.
Looking at it, I think there's some key differences in each of ours when we get to the 3vs3 weighing. marsh did HHL v HHL, Pony did HHL v HLN, I did HHL v LLH
The problem I found with HHL v LLH is that if the left side is lower, it could be either the HH or the LL that caused that with only one weigh to figure out which.
EDIT: Pony's HHL vs. HLN should definitely work because, if even, you are left with HLL, and can test the two L against each other, if uneven, you have either HHL or LH and can go from there easily enough.
It's a shame I cannot find my old Perplex City game cards. Fuck was that game a monster of a puzzle head ache but it was fuuuun. Best ARG/Pyramid scheme evar.
I may have this totally wrong. Somebody check my logic.
If you light a string at both ends it should take half an hour to burn through.
Light one string at both ends, and the other at a single end.
When the first string is finished, then the second string should be half burnt. Light up the other side and it will complete its burn in 15 minutes.
That adds up to 45 mins.
if it's half burnt, that means it's already 30 minutes through its burn, so however long it takes to burn the rest is 30/2 = 15 minutes so yeah that looks like the answer
It isn't. Remember how it was noted that the first 99% of the rope can take 1min to burn and the other 1% to take 59min?
I don't think that matters, because wherever it's "Middle" is doesn't matter. They could both burn into each other in the last 1% of one side but it would still take half an hour.
If only one person on the island had blue eyes, he would leave the first night.
If exactly two people on the island had blue eyes, then on the first night, they could each think, "the guru might be talking about the one blue-eyed person I see", so neither would leave the first night. But after neither leaves the first night, they would each know that there must be at least two blue-eyed people on the island. So both blue-eyed people would leave the second night.
If exactly three people on the island had blue eyes, nobody would leave after two nights, and from this the blue-eyed people would know that there must be at least three blue-eyed people on the island. So all three blue-eyed people would leave the third night.
Etc.
With 100 blue-eyed people on the island, all 100 blue-eyed people leave on the 100th night.
Yours definitely works, the difference between yours and mine is in that one section I end up with one of two sets of HHL to test, and you end up with one HHL, and one HL.
EDIT: t Trentsteel the "H"s and "L"s denote Possible light or heavy balls.
you're only testing the balls you need to test at a given time, removing everything else from the equation and coming to a logical conclusion based on process of elimination
The normal balls are those that are for sure normal weight,
because there can only be 1 ball that is a different weight, if two or more balls weigh the same they are confirmed to not be the odd one out.
EDIT: what pony said, you have possible variation balls that you systematically prove to be normal until you are left with either all normal or one odd one out.
Okay here's a fun one. Sorry for messy doodle but make it so that each dot connects with it's matching dot WITHOUT crossing the streams. Er I mean the lines. You cannot go outside of the red box nor along it or anything. Basically each color can only touch it's own color and the white background.
Okay here's a fun one. Sorry for messy doodle but make it so that each dot connects with it's matching dot WITHOUT crossing the streams. Er I mean the lines. You cannot go outside of the red box nor along it or anything. Basically each color can only touch it's own color and the white background.
Illustrate your answer.
fuck you BoP, I tried hard to doodle this abomination.
Also Pony, have you played Professor Layton for the DS?
Okay here's a fun one. Sorry for messy doodle but make it so that each dot connects with it's matching dot WITHOUT crossing the streams. Er I mean the lines. You cannot go outside of the red box nor along it or anything. Basically each color can only touch it's own color and the white background.
Illustrate your answer.
Are we allowed to draw in 3d?
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My bad. I got switched around somewhere, but I'm using HHL vs HHL, same as Marsh.
Okay here's a fun one. Sorry for messy doodle but make it so that each dot connects with it's matching dot WITHOUT crossing the streams. Er I mean the lines. You cannot go outside of the red box nor along it or anything. Basically each color can only touch it's own color and the white background.
Okay here's a fun one. Sorry for messy doodle but make it so that each dot connects with it's matching dot WITHOUT crossing the streams. Er I mean the lines. You cannot go outside of the red box nor along it or anything. Basically each color can only touch it's own color and the white background.
Illustrate your answer.
fuck you BoP, I tried hard to doodle this abomination.
Also Pony, have you played Professor Layton for the DS?
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appreciate it, po-po
just let us know if you see the right answer come up to confirm it
Oh come one, we are all winners here. How many pages of notes did you use? It took me like three starting off from a weighing of 5 vs. 5 and moving from there.
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showpost.php?p=7698476&postcount=183
i used notepad and ms paint, so, i don't know?
i started over a bunch of times though.
It isn't. Remember how it was noted that the first 99% of the rope can take 1min to burn and the other 1% to take 59min?
Shut up I'm drunk.
Satans..... hints.....
Incorrect. The only thing that prevents you from doing is cutting the ropes at any point in their length. It does not change the amount of time measured by the burning.
OF course,
1) I am slightly drunk
2) I haven't posted my solution
ergo, there's no guarantee mine is correct.
Looking at it, I think there's some key differences in each of ours when we get to the 3vs3 weighing. marsh did HHL v HHL, Pony did HHL v HLN, I did HHL v LLH
Oh wow, that is really clever.
Satans..... hints.....
I don't think that matters, because wherever it's "Middle" is doesn't matter. They could both burn into each other in the last 1% of one side but it would still take half an hour.
Right? Or am I confused?
I made a TD for iphone and windows phone!
I don't know about HHL vs HLN, but I'm pretty sure HHL vs. LLH can't work. That was Marsh's first try, and while he came up with the correct solution (HHL) I was busy trying everything I possibly could from LLH. I came very, very close, but I couldn't solve from there. You should double-check yours just in case. I could be wrong, of course, so posting it would let everyone check.
I won't explain it on here though. Unless someone really begs and sends me some gift cards to neat places.
Hamlet will be Hamlet
An ineffable tragedy of the human spirit that still resonates, even today.
The problem I found with HHL v LLH is that if the left side is lower, it could be either the HH or the LL that caused that with only one weigh to figure out which.
EDIT: Pony's HHL vs. HLN should definitely work because, if even, you are left with HLL, and can test the two L against each other, if uneven, you have either HHL or LH and can go from there easily enough.
if i missed an outcome somehow, let me know
i am pretty sure my answer is the right one.
My logic exactly. I'm pretty sure it's right!
If exactly two people on the island had blue eyes, then on the first night, they could each think, "the guru might be talking about the one blue-eyed person I see", so neither would leave the first night. But after neither leaves the first night, they would each know that there must be at least two blue-eyed people on the island. So both blue-eyed people would leave the second night.
If exactly three people on the island had blue eyes, nobody would leave after two nights, and from this the blue-eyed people would know that there must be at least three blue-eyed people on the island. So all three blue-eyed people would leave the third night.
Etc.
With 100 blue-eyed people on the island, all 100 blue-eyed people leave on the 100th night.
How come you guys have LLH vs. HHL? Wouldn't that imply there are more than one of the different weight?
I made a TD for iphone and windows phone!
Yours definitely works, the difference between yours and mine is in that one section I end up with one of two sets of HHL to test, and you end up with one HHL, and one HL.
EDIT: t Trentsteel the "H"s and "L"s denote Possible light or heavy balls.
Just tell me I am like a child that wanders into the middle of a conversation if I'm way out of whack here.
I made a TD for iphone and windows phone!
They get labeled L or H depending on if they are on the side of the scale that slides up (light) or the scale that slides down (heavy)
Satans..... hints.....
you're only testing the balls you need to test at a given time, removing everything else from the equation and coming to a logical conclusion based on process of elimination
because there can only be 1 ball that is a different weight, if two or more balls weigh the same they are confirmed to not be the odd one out.
EDIT: what pony said, you have possible variation balls that you systematically prove to be normal until you are left with either all normal or one odd one out.
since the stroke i've been paranoid about brain damage and my cognitive abilities and stuff
so flexing the ole brain muscle is pretty sweet
Illustrate your answer.
fuck you BoP, I tried hard to doodle this abomination.
Also Pony, have you played Professor Layton for the DS?
I made a TD for iphone and windows phone!
No.
Also, cool freebie puzzles.
http://www.welovepuzzles.com/
My favorite is a real fucking kick in the teeth sometimes.
http://www.welovepuzzles.com/channel/flash/play/5/