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ROUND THREE: FIGHT A: RESULTS

Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From BeyondBeyondRegistered User regular
edited November 2006 in Graphic Violence
YOUR WINNERS:
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CAPTAIN MARVEL – Shazam!

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SUPERMAN – Not a bird, or even a plane.
CAPTAIN MARVEL ---- 96
SUPERMAN ---------- 73
MAGNETO ----------- 53
BIGBY WOLF -------- -19

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Supes and Cap.

    END

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    This is a hell of a fight.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I don't suppose AoA Magneto had Forge on his team.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    holy shit

    whoever wins, we lose

    still, I'm gonna give it to Cap and a toss up between Mags and Bigsy.

    because no way in hell are they NOT gonna all three team up against Superman. I mean, he's fucking Superman.

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.

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  • CariblueCariblue Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.

    Captain Marvel can easily beat Supes.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.
    THEY NEVER DO THAT

    Fucking god. When is the last time either of them used super speed as their first tactic? Never. They only do it when i is a plot point. It is so amazingly out of character for them to move at the speed of light and take everyone out the second the fight begins.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited October 2006
    Cariblue wrote:
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.

    Captain Marvel can easily beat Supes.

    Uh, he basically said that. And I don't think anyone can easily take down Superman, but whatever. What he's saying is that they wouldn't fight each other first.

    And the two of them are more than capable of taking out Bigby and Magneto.

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    Cariblue wrote:
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.

    Captain Marvel can easily beat Supes.

    Uh, he basically said that. And I don't think anyone can easily take down Superman, but whatever. What he's saying is that they wouldn't fight each other first.

    And the two of them are more than capable of taking out Bigby and Magneto.

    I don't know. Maybe I'm biased because I like him, but I honestly think Magneto could give Superman or Captain Marvel a run for their money. His shield has held under pretty epic strain, and if Magneto parks himself in the mall and plays whack-a-hero with the cars in the parking lot and he could wear them down to the point where one of the other fighters can swoop in for the easy kill. I also wouldn't discount a Magneto/Bigby team up (flying magic sword ftw) just on the "oh shit" they'll both feel.

    There's going to have to be a certain amount of overconfidence for both Superman and Marvel, and Magneto is the kind of guy that'll jump on that and just keep pounding away.

    I'm really tempted to vote Mags -> Marvel -> Supes -> Bigby

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.
    THEY NEVER DO THAT

    Fucking god. When is the last time either of them used super speed as their first tactic? Never. They only do it when i is a plot point. It is so amazingly out of character for them to move at the speed of light and take everyone out the second the fight begins.
    I think it's entirely in Superman's character to want to end the tournament as fast as possible so he can get back to protecting Earth. But we can leave off the superspeed attack, since Supes and Cap wouldn't have a problem winning anyway.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited October 2006
    I'm not sure Superman or Captain Marvel are exactly prone to overconfidence.

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Geebs wrote:
    I'm not sure Superman or Captain Marvel are exactly prone to overconfidence.

    Captain Marvel I really don't know that much about, but from everything I've seen that's classic Superman. He always flies up and poses before delivering a stern moral lecture :D

    Honestly though, I've never seen him start a fight without some sort of conversation, barring insane threats or repeats of recent fights. I can see him flying up, saying something like "Sorry about my kicking your ass in the next 30 seconds.", and taking a Buick to the face.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Restating my scenario from earlier, no teamups:

    Captain Marvel and Superman go at it while Magneto easily handles Bigby (assume flying silver spikes or whatever you want). Magneto takes the Vorpal Sword from Bigby and flings it at the two powerhouses, who are distracted with each other. Superman gets sliced up, but Marvel just gets pissed and beats the hell out of Magneto.

    1. Marvel
    2. Magneto
    3. Superman
    4. Bigby


    And yes, I am metagaming it, if that's the right word, because a final match of Superman amalgrams is just not very fun.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    werehippy wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    I'm not sure Superman or Captain Marvel are exactly prone to overconfidence.

    Captain Marvel I really don't know that much about, but from everything I've seen that's classic Superman. He always flies up and poses before delivering a stern moral lecture :D

    Honestly though, I've never seen him start a fight without some sort of conversation, barring insane threats or repeats of recent fights. I can see him flying up, saying something like "Sorry about my kicking your ass in the next 30 seconds.", and taking a Buick to the face.

    And like that's going to stop him.

    It's Marvel and Superman, in that order.

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  • deadonthestreetdeadonthestreet Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Someone could pull a Kingdom Come on Shazam there and get him to turn into Billy and then cover his mouth before he could say Shazam! again.

    I mean, they got video of him. They probably know how he works by now.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Someone could pull a Kingdom Come on Shazam there and get him to turn into Billy and then cover his mouth before he could say Shazam! again.

    I mean, they got video of him. They probably know how he works by now.

    Okay, how do you get him to turn back? KC Marvel was a mindcontrolled Luthor puppet. I doubt the real thing would fall for something so stupid. Wisdom of Solomon and all.

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  • werehippywerehippy Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Furu wrote:
    werehippy wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    I'm not sure Superman or Captain Marvel are exactly prone to overconfidence.

    Captain Marvel I really don't know that much about, but from everything I've seen that's classic Superman. He always flies up and poses before delivering a stern moral lecture :D

    Honestly though, I've never seen him start a fight without some sort of conversation, barring insane threats or repeats of recent fights. I can see him flying up, saying something like "Sorry about my kicking your ass in the next 30 seconds.", and taking a Buick to the face.

    And like that's going to stop him.

    It's Marvel and Superman, in that order.

    Sure, the first one's going to just slap him into the ground. It's the next couple hundred that'll finish the job :)

    Even Superman is going to lose steam getting jackhammered by a parking garage full of cars, who according to comic book logic must explode into impressive seeming fireballs on impact.


    And, completely besides the point, I'd rather not see Superman advance. Like someone else mentioned, battle of the Super-clones is boring as hell. I'd like to see a mix of all kinds of powers, so if someone has a remotely legitimate chance at a win, I'd rather give it to them.

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    werehippy wrote:
    Furu wrote:
    werehippy wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    I'm not sure Superman or Captain Marvel are exactly prone to overconfidence.

    Captain Marvel I really don't know that much about, but from everything I've seen that's classic Superman. He always flies up and poses before delivering a stern moral lecture :D

    Honestly though, I've never seen him start a fight without some sort of conversation, barring insane threats or repeats of recent fights. I can see him flying up, saying something like "Sorry about my kicking your ass in the next 30 seconds.", and taking a Buick to the face.

    And like that's going to stop him.

    It's Marvel and Superman, in that order.

    Sure, the first one's going to just slap him into the ground. It's the next couple hundred that'll finish the job :)

    Even Superman is going to lose steam getting jackhammered by a parking garage full of cars, who according to comic book logic must explode into impressive seeming fireballs on impact.


    And, completely besides the point, I'd rather not see Superman advance. Like someone else mentioned, battle of the Super-clones is boring as hell. I'd like to see a mix of all kinds of powers, so if someone has a remotely legitimate chance at a win, I'd rather give it to them.
    In the time it takes the cars to fly over to hit Superman, he can easily get out of their way, or smash them, or use his heat vision to blow them up from a distance.

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  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    blow them up from a distance doing what exactly?

    oh no, he has set a flame this ball of metal that i'm moving at his head at incredible speed. i had better douse these flames, lest they singe him.

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  • RantRant Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    werehippy wrote:
    Even Superman is going to lose steam getting jackhammered by a parking garage full of cars, who according to comic book logic must explode into impressive seeming fireballs on impact.


    And, completely besides the point, I'd rather not see Superman advance. Like someone else mentioned, battle of the Super-clones is boring as hell. I'd like to see a mix of all kinds of powers, so if someone has a remotely legitimate chance at a win, I'd rather give it to them.

    A couple of dozen of exploding cars will probably annoy Superman, until he turns on his heat vision and just destroy every projectile that comes his way.

    I mean, seriously, who thinks throwing cars at Superman will even bruise him?

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? the foot of mt fujiRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Guys. Magneto brings as many quarters as he can carry. Combined with Bigby's mastery of the wind, that could do some damage at range.

    And Son of Beyonder said Bigby used the vorpal sword in a previous fight, he can bring it into this one. So he could theoretically take down Marvel if he got the drop on him. Couldn't he?

    I'm just trying to avoid the obvious Marvel/Superman win, here.

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Olivaw wrote:
    Guys. Magneto brings as many quarters as he can carry. Combined with Bigby's mastery of the wind, that could do some damage at range.
    It could do damage to Bigby and Magneto, maybe. How fast would a quarter have to be moving to do more than splat against Superman or Marvel's skin? Also, Bigby used the Vorpal sword on Cable in the recap, so he can have it, but it'll also probably turn up in the videos. It could definitely work on Superman if he let someone get the sword that close to him, but whether or not it would work on Marvel, who is highly resistant to magic, is up for debate.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Yeah, I don't think quarters moving at any speed are going to do jack to Superman or CM.

    Let's face it, one or both of these guys are going to move on. I can see justifying one or the other losing, but thinking that Magneto and Bigby can somehow beat both of them is a massive lapse of logic.

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  • ReatheranReatheran Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Furu wrote:
    Yeah, I don't think quarters moving at any speed are going to do jack to Superman or CM.

    Well, any non-relativistic speed. But, yeah, Magneto couldn't really hurt those guys.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I'd like Captain Marvel to go through by taking out Superman early on, leaving a more interesting candidate like Magneto or Bigby to advance.

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  • HarrierHarrier The Star Spangled Man Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Olivaw wrote:
    Guys. Magneto brings as many quarters as he can carry. Combined with Bigby's mastery of the wind, that could do some damage at range.
    It could do damage to Bigby and Magneto, maybe. How fast would a quarter have to be moving to do more than splat against Superman or Marvel's skin? Also, Bigby used the Vorpal sword on Cable in the recap, so he can have it, but it'll also probably turn up in the videos. It could definitely work on Superman if he let someone get the sword that close to him, but whether or not it would work on Marvel, who is highly resistant to magic, is up for debate.
    Let's not forget that Superman faced Boy Blue in the first round, who was responsible for putting the Vorpal Sword in play to begin with. By now, he knows what the sword can do, and he'll know to avoid it.

    So Bigby's pretty much toast. Magneto might pose more of a challenge, but Supes and Marvel are both smart enough to realize it's more productive to tag team him and advance as a pair than to hammer away at each other.

    I'm putting Big Blue ahead of the World's Mightiest Mortal; they may be roughly equals in physical power, but I've always thought Superman had a slight speed advantage, and he certainly has his heat vision, freezing breath, and sensory powers to give him the edge over Captain Marvel.

    One way or another, we'll see at least one 'superman analogue' in the final round. Why shouldn't it be Superman himself?

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  • MadJackMadJack Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    okay first of all magneto brings his one item which is one of the many replicas of Mjolnir. (he can carry it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mjolnir_%28Marvel_Comics%29 ) now upon entering the battlefield he shoots the hammer towards bigby while wretching the vorpal sword from him and using them to decapitate bigby he then throws it towards captain marvel who has been kept at bay by his forcefield killing captain marvel vie dicapataions and slams from the hammer. Saving superman for later due to his more workable weakness.



    Magneto

    Superman



    That’s how I see it.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    That's...


    Huh?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Look, Bigby's not in this. Marv can take him on the magic front, Supes can take him on the brute strength (and wind, heh) front, and Mags can take him with silver.

    Now, What would most likely happen is Marv and Supes, but that would make it look like the final battle is basically Marv, MM, WW, and Supes, which is boring and not the point of this thing. So I deem that, as master of magnetism, Mags can own the lightning.

    So it's Mags and Supes, just to make this somewhat interesting.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2006
    Bigby loses, silver silver silver.

    Mags can take up that sword and use it against supes, who each and every time I've seen him fight he holds back and takes a beating first.

    Mags and Marvel advance.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2006
    werehippy wrote:
    Geebs wrote:
    Cariblue wrote:
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Except that Captain Marvel and Superman are longtime teammates and on good terms with each other, and Captain Marvel has a good chance of beating Superman without any help, so they can team up to take out Magneto and Bigby (at superspeed, before they even think to fight back), and then Cap can finish Supes off for the win.

    Captain Marvel can easily beat Supes.

    Uh, he basically said that. And I don't think anyone can easily take down Superman, but whatever. What he's saying is that they wouldn't fight each other first.

    And the two of them are more than capable of taking out Bigby and Magneto.

    I don't know. Maybe I'm biased because I like him, but I honestly think Magneto could give Superman or Captain Marvel a run for their money. His shield has held under pretty epic strain, and if Magneto parks himself in the mall and plays whack-a-hero with the cars in the parking lot and he could wear them down to the point where one of the other fighters can swoop in for the easy kill. I also wouldn't discount a Magneto/Bigby team up (flying magic sword ftw) just on the "oh shit" they'll both feel.

    There's going to have to be a certain amount of overconfidence for both Superman and Marvel, and Magneto is the kind of guy that'll jump on that and just keep pounding away.

    I'm really tempted to vote Mags -> Marvel -> Supes -> Bigby
    If you really think cars are going to hurt Marvel or Superman, you are really underestimating both of them.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    I'm pretty sure they'll be literally able to punch through any flying cars.

    I mean, really, if throwing enough cars at them would actually stop them, that's...pretty dumb.

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  • valiancevaliance Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    It's very in character for Superman to stand there and take some hits before apologizing for the mighty smackdown he's about to lay down. So normally, I'd agree with this:
    Mags can take up that sword and use it against supes, who each and every time I've seen him fight he holds back and takes a beating first.

    BUT:
    Harrier wrote:
    Let's not forget that Superman faced Boy Blue in the first round, who was responsible for putting the Vorpal Sword in play to begin with. By now, he knows what the sword can do, and he'll know to avoid it.

    Here's the fight:
    In Match B, Black Canary got things started early, attacking Colossus, who retaliated by knocking her out as gently as possible. Unfortunately for him, this left him open to Boy Blue, who took advantage of the distraction and eviscerated him, in full view of Superman, Deadpool and Ms. Marvel, who was visibly shaken by the death of her friend. The Nick Fury from the Ultimate universe took advantage of this and opened fire on the gathered heroes. As Deadpool dove out of the way, Fury tossed a grenade that exploded mere feet behind the mercenary, seemingly knocking him down and out of the fight. Superman decided to end the gunplay by melting the barrel of Fury’s gun with his heat vision. Boy Blue attempted to teleport behind and slice Superman with his Vorpal Sword, but the Man of Steel managed to avoid the shot. He apparently read the dossier on the Fable that mentioned his magic sword, and wisely decided not to test it. Boy Blue disappeared momentarily, as the seemingly dead Colossus emerged from the nearby rainforest! Ms. Marvel, who had lunged at Superman after Boy Blue’s failed attempt, froze mid-punch, allowing Superman to score a knockout blow that sent her flying into a very surprised Nick Fury, who had been setting up some kind of device. Suddenly, “Colossus” fired an optic blast at Superman, and was revealed to be Mimic in disguise! Superman easily shrugged off the blast, and easily dodged another attempt by Boy Blue, this time ducking under a decapitation attempt. A seemingly frustrated Blue turned his attention towards the mutant exile below, but instead was met with an army of himself! Mimic had apparently not only copied powers from Mystique, but Multiple Man as well. Boy Blue moved in, destroying many of the duplicates, while they all writhed in pain. Suddenly, Deadpool rose from where he’d been lying since Fury’s grenade hit, and managed to kick the Vorpal blade from Blue’s hand! He managed to grab it as it landed, causing Blue to attempt to teleport behind him and disarm him. Deadpool then stabbed the sword through his own stomach, impaling himself and the unfortunate Blue in one stroke. As soon as the sword struck the cloak, the two items seemed to disappear, and a massive explosion of force through the three ground based competitors far from the arena. Mimic landed at Superman’s feet, and Superman seemed frozen in place for a moment, before reaching forward and knocking the Exile unconscious with one punch. Meanwhile, Deadpool crawled over to a trembling, nearly unconscious Boy Blue, and in a rare act of mercy, knocked him out with the butt of his pistol, ending the match. We’ve got field reporter Jessica Jones on site for an interview with Deadpool right now. Jessica?

    Superman WILL use his super-speed when he knows something can hurt him, as shown above. So Magneto is not getting that sword anywhere NEAR Superman without hiding it somehow. Perhaps in a storm of other metal stuff like cars and such.

    Which assumes of course that Bigby gives the sword up without a fight. Magneto does NOT friggin start the fight with the vorpal sword. He has to acquire it, which takes time and effort. Who's to say Marvel and Supes don't get to Bibgy first and make a wolfskin cloak out of him? (And chuck the sword into the sun)

    Even if Magneto and Bigby team up instantly, the vorpal sword is their ONLY trick, and Superman knows this. The ONLY way either Magneto or Bigby can sneak into second is: A lucky (or sneaky) vorpal sword hit on Superman

    Barring the vorpal sword, either Marvel or Superman could take the Bigby+Magneto teamup alone.


    Anyway if you guys wanna metavote that's totally cool, just don't lie to yourselves. Supes and Marvel WILL team up and are strong favorites for this round. I'm open to ideas, but if the vorpal sword is the only way Magneto or Bigby could advance, I'm just not seeing it.

    1. Captain Marvel
    2. Superman
    3. Magento or Bigby Wolf (whoever Marvel/Supes get last)
    4. Magneto of Bigby Wolf (whoever the teamup gets first)

    EDIT: crediting my quotes, added a little stuff

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Lux wrote:
    I'd like Captain Marvel to go through by taking out Superman early on, leaving a more interesting candidate like Magneto or Bigby to advance.
    I agree. Cap takes on Supes right away because he knows just how powerful he is and that he is probably the biggest threat after watching tapes on Mags and Bigby.

    I refuse to go with teamups especially this late in the tournament. So Marvel takes out Superman and then Magneto takes out Bigby. Then for good measure Mags stabs Superman in the heart with the Vorpal Sword while hes on the ground and before Marvel can kick his ass.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited October 2006
    And let's not forget motherfucking kryptonite

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Marathon wrote:
    Lux wrote:
    I'd like Captain Marvel to go through by taking out Superman early on, leaving a more interesting candidate like Magneto or Bigby to advance.
    I agree. Cap takes on Supes right away because he knows just how powerful he is and that he is probably the biggest threat after watching tapes on Mags and Bigby.

    I refuse to go with teamups especially this late in the tournament. So Marvel takes out Superman and then Magneto takes out Bigby. Then for good measure Mags stabs Superman in the heart with the Vorpal Sword while hes on the ground and before Marvel can kick his ass.

    Yea, teamups made sense in the first round, with 8 people in a match. 2nd round, there might've been a couple (can't remember if I did any other than MM/GL vs IM/Thor), but at this stage I'm not doing anymore teamups. Won't be long now til there can be only one.

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  • NinjaSquirrelNinjaSquirrel Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    Marathon wrote:
    Lux wrote:
    I'd like Captain Marvel to go through by taking out Superman early on, leaving a more interesting candidate like Magneto or Bigby to advance.
    I agree. Cap takes on Supes right away because he knows just how powerful he is and that he is probably the biggest threat after watching tapes on Mags and Bigby.

    I refuse to go with teamups especially this late in the tournament. So Marvel takes out Superman and then Magneto takes out Bigby. Then for good measure Mags stabs Superman in the heart with the Vorpal Sword while hes on the ground and before Marvel can kick his ass.

    Yea, teamups made sense in the first round, with 8 people in a match. 2nd round, there might've been a couple (can't remember if I did any other than MM/GL vs IM/Thor), but at this stage I'm not doing anymore teamups. Won't be long now til there can be only one.
    They don't need to team up really. But they are both smart enough to know that it would be pretty damn stupid to go for the other first, since that's a guaranteed long ass fight while Bigby and Magneto would take a minute tops. Putting themselves out of fighting the other to take out eachother for the length of time it would take one of them to win is not a good decision for either of them and they are both smart enough to know this (Wisdom of Solomon, super intelligence).

    Based simply on power level and what the characters are likely to do there is no real option other than Marvel and Supes. Now bring in fanboism and the general hatred of superman that seems to exist in this tournament (if you didn't want people this powerful you shouldn't have let them in in the first place) only one of them will probably advance.

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  • Adaemus1sfAdaemus1sf Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Harrier wrote:
    Adaemus1sf wrote:
    Olivaw wrote:
    Guys. Magneto brings as many quarters as he can carry. Combined with Bigby's mastery of the wind, that could do some damage at range.
    It could do damage to Bigby and Magneto, maybe. How fast would a quarter have to be moving to do more than splat against Superman or Marvel's skin? Also, Bigby used the Vorpal sword on Cable in the recap, so he can have it, but it'll also probably turn up in the videos. It could definitely work on Superman if he let someone get the sword that close to him, but whether or not it would work on Marvel, who is highly resistant to magic, is up for debate.
    Let's not forget that Superman faced Boy Blue in the first round, who was responsible for putting the Vorpal Sword in play to begin with. By now, he knows what the sword can do, and he'll know to avoid it.

    So Bigby's pretty much toast. Magneto might pose more of a challenge, but Supes and Marvel are both smart enough to realize it's more productive to tag team him and advance as a pair than to hammer away at each other.

    I'm putting Big Blue ahead of the World's Mightiest Mortal; they may be roughly equals in physical power, but I've always thought Superman had a slight speed advantage, and he certainly has his heat vision, freezing breath, and sensory powers to give him the edge over Captain Marvel.

    One way or another, we'll see at least one 'superman analogue' in the final round. Why shouldn't it be Superman himself?
    Don't know if this is canon, but in the Justice mini-series going on right now, Superman told Captain Marvel that the Speed of Mercury makes
    Cap faster than Supes. Marvel was the only one fast enough to keep up with the Flash.

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  • ScooterScooter Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    (if you didn't want people this powerful you shouldn't have let them in in the first place)

    For the record, I said having Superman-level guys in this was going to cause problems back in nominations. People put them in anyways since I guess having big name guys in it outweighs not being able to tell who's going to win from day 1.

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  • NinjaSquirrelNinjaSquirrel Registered User regular
    edited October 2006
    Scooter wrote:
    (if you didn't want people this powerful you shouldn't have let them in in the first place)

    For the record, I said having Superman-level guys in this was going to cause problems back in nominations. People put them in anyways since I guess having big name guys in it outweighs not being able to tell who's going to win from day 1.

    Ah, I wasn't around here for the nominations, didn't start reading till about mid-way through round two, so I didn't know where people stood on these guys being in the tournament. I don't think they should be in this tournament either as it is just so obvious they'll win unless they fight each other and they won't fight each other until other competitors are gone seeing as how most of them are friends from JLU and know that leaving themselves vulnerable to other competitors while fighting each other is just a bad idea.

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