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Games and the other kind of pirate
IceBurnerIt's cold and there are penguins.Registered Userregular
It seems another, older, breed of pirate has most decidedly been hitting the wallet of companies involved with game consoles as of late: Real sea pirates from Somali have been targeting cargo shipments of games and game consoles. Delays and stolen shipments both negatively impact all companies involved. And before anyone laughs about swords and cannons, they're heavily armed with black market ex-Soviet ships and weapons.
Now what I'm wondering: Why aren't U.S., E.U. constituent, and Japanese navies blowing up pirates preying upon shipments their country's retailers/manufacturers have money riding on? Protecting interests at sea is kind of why they exist, and the retail economy worldwide has it hard enough right now.
There simply no excuse whatsoever for this kind of piracy, not today.
Uh, this is nothing new. There's never really been a point since the 1600s when there hasn't been piracy. It's arguably much easier in modern times. With the power and ease of acquisition of modern weapons, a small group of half a dozen can knock over much larger ships, and use smaller, faster, nearly undetectable boats to do it. And with hundreds, possibly thousands, of cargo ships traveling through the Indian and Pacific oceans every day, there's absolutely no feasible way that the governments can effectively monitor every little dinghy that might have a pirate crew.
Yeah, the ocean is really big, even in very specific spots. Short of forming a wall of ships, there's no way to eliminate piracy. I know, at least in the past, there was a decent sized force of ships from various countries permanently stationed in that area.
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Now what I'm wondering: Why aren't U.S., E.U. constituent, and Japanese navies blowing up pirates preying upon shipments their country's retailers/manufacturers have money riding on? Protecting interests at sea is kind of why they exist, and the retail economy worldwide has it hard enough right now.
The US is trying to step up in combating these sort of modern-day pirates. But considering the nation that these pirates in question are originating from is steeped in poverty and hasn't had a real central government of any power for decades -- and specially considering a single ransom demand can net them a million dollars -- what can you do? These pirates have almost have nothing to lose and the tenacity and boldness to back that up, and you can't patrol the entire goddamn seas everywhere at once to catch the small speedboats that these pirates favor.
The answer really is less policing international waters (although that's surely a necessity here), but eliminating the socioeconomic factors that allows these pirates to thrive. Unfortunately, considering the region, that's almost a fool's wish.
Now what I'm wondering: Why aren't U.S., E.U. constituent, and Japanese navies blowing up pirates preying upon shipments their country's retailers/manufacturers have money riding on? Protecting interests at sea is kind of why they exist, and the retail economy worldwide has it hard enough right now.
There simply no excuse whatsoever for this kind of piracy, not today.
The Royal Navy has repelled a pirate attack on a Danish cargo-ship off the coast of Yemen, shooting dead two men believed to be Somali pirates.
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) confirmed the incident took place on Tuesday, when HMS Cumberland crew members tried to board a traditional wooden dhow.
The Yemeni-flagged vessel was identified as having been involved in an earlier attack on the Danish ship
An MoD spokesman said the pirates were shot in self-defence.
After initial attempts to stop the dhow failed, the Royal Navy launched sea boats to encircle the vessel.
The British seamen were fired on and shot back before the dhow was boarded and its crew surrendered.
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HMS Cumberland, a Plymouth-based Type 22 frigate, is currently deployed on a piracy-fighting mission in the Gulf of Aden as part of a Nato taskforce.
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shanisLCDR, US NavyMaryland, USARegistered Userregular
edited November 2008
Well, I'm actually a real-life U.S. Naval Officer. We do actually try to act against piracy whenever we can, but before we do we (a) have to get authorization from our commanders, (b) get permission from the host country and (c) not detract from our primary mission to do so. All three of those things are time-consuming to solve, which gives the pirates plenty of time to do their dirty work.
Now, if said piracy involves threat to human life, you'll see a swifter response. As it stands, however, they're stealing games and other insured products and not weapons/ammo/gear meant for insurgents. Not a high priority for our military assets.
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A Danish patrol boat captured some somali pirates a few weeks back, but they had to release them because there isn't a court that deals with that sort of thing. Until the international community gets their shit together and bring about laws to deal with it, the pirates get off with a slap on the wrist.
I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
A Danish patrol boat captured some somali pirates a few weeks back, but they had to release them because there isn't a court that deals with that sort of thing. Until the international community gets their shit together and bring about laws to deal with it, the pirates get off with a slap on the wrist.
Why? I mean, this happened in international waters, didn't it? Outside jurisdictions?
I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
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I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
Jesus Christ, look at the Gulf of Aden, above Somalia. It's like a fucking pirate party over there.
This has given me an interesting idea; how awesome would a modern day pirate game be? FPS, factions, managing your crew and ship, running from the law...
I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
Jesus Christ, look at the Gulf of Aden, above Somalia. It's like a fucking pirate party over there.
This has given me an interesting idea; how awesome would a modern day pirate game be? FPS, factions, managing your crew and ship, running from the law...
Making sure that the failed state stays a failed state in order to ensure a safe haven...
Yeah, what others have said.. the ocean is a very big place. if you put the two largest navies in the world (USN and RN) together and got them into an area around say Somalia you'd still have trouble. A lot of these pirates use small wooden or rubber boats.
So even a few miles off from say a frigate they'll not be so easy to detect because of their low radar profile and the fact that you tend to get a not so clear picture because of the ocean tending not to stay flat.
Of course a harpoon missile to one of these boats would end things very quickly but there are lots of rules in regards to this kind of stuff. You can't simply go around killing people in boats who you suspect.
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I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
Jesus Christ, look at the Gulf of Aden, above Somalia. It's like a fucking pirate party over there.
This has given me an interesting idea; how awesome would a modern day pirate game be? FPS, factions, managing your crew and ship, running from the law...
Making sure that the failed state stays a failed state in order to ensure a safe haven...
Actually, that's starting to sound like a pretty interesting idea. Hell, IIRC you got do do plenty of that stuff in MecWarrior 2 in order to prolong your contracts.
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
Jesus Christ, look at the Gulf of Aden, above Somalia. It's like a fucking pirate party over there.
This has given me an interesting idea; how awesome would a modern day pirate game be? FPS, factions, managing your crew and ship, running from the law...
Oh, will it include a 'rape and kill the women' or 'mutilate the men and children' feature?
I started watching the piracy monitoring services about 8 years ago or so, and the numbers they've reported on have steadily increased over that point. There is even a live google map for this!
Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
Jesus Christ, look at the Gulf of Aden, above Somalia. It's like a fucking pirate party over there.
This has given me an interesting idea; how awesome would a modern day pirate game be? FPS, factions, managing your crew and ship, running from the law...
Oh, will it include a 'rape and kill the women' or 'mutilate the men and children' feature?
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It's probably not a problem that's going to go away no matter how much you think first-world navies should blow the pirates up.
The US is trying to step up in combating these sort of modern-day pirates. But considering the nation that these pirates in question are originating from is steeped in poverty and hasn't had a real central government of any power for decades -- and specially considering a single ransom demand can net them a million dollars -- what can you do? These pirates have almost have nothing to lose and the tenacity and boldness to back that up, and you can't patrol the entire goddamn seas everywhere at once to catch the small speedboats that these pirates favor.
The answer really is less policing international waters (although that's surely a necessity here), but eliminating the socioeconomic factors that allows these pirates to thrive. Unfortunately, considering the region, that's almost a fool's wish.
Uh.
Now, if said piracy involves threat to human life, you'll see a swifter response. As it stands, however, they're stealing games and other insured products and not weapons/ammo/gear meant for insurgents. Not a high priority for our military assets.
"Uh, I have never said that you are not good at what you do. It's just that what you do is not worth doing." -S.C.
Swab the decks ye sea scum and raise the sails, we be huntin' fer PS3s!
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Ron Paul wants to bring them back. I am serious.
Why? I mean, this happened in international waters, didn't it? Outside jurisdictions?
Scuttle the boat.
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Awesome! Global warming will be defeated!
Jesus Christ, look at the Gulf of Aden, above Somalia. It's like a fucking pirate party over there.
This has given me an interesting idea; how awesome would a modern day pirate game be? FPS, factions, managing your crew and ship, running from the law...
Making sure that the failed state stays a failed state in order to ensure a safe haven...
So even a few miles off from say a frigate they'll not be so easy to detect because of their low radar profile and the fact that you tend to get a not so clear picture because of the ocean tending not to stay flat.
Of course a harpoon missile to one of these boats would end things very quickly but there are lots of rules in regards to this kind of stuff. You can't simply go around killing people in boats who you suspect.
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
Oh, will it include a 'rape and kill the women' or 'mutilate the men and children' feature?
Boy I sure do hope so!
Some things are more fun in real life.