Buying a rad new pet

SkitchenSkitchen Registered User regular
edited December 2008 in Help / Advice Forum
I live in a small apartment by myself and it sometimes gets lonely. I'd like to buy a little companion to keep here, but I don't know what I'd like yet. I don't have a terribly large amount of space for the little critter, so I've basically narrowed the search to two choices.

1. Snake - I've had a pet snake before, and it was pretty cool. Taking care of them is easy, and you can sorta hold them sometimes I guess.

2. Little fuzzy creature - Hamsters, guinea pigs, rats, mice, etc. Something more exotic would be cool.

I mean, I'm looking for a pet, but I don't really want to spend an absolute ton of money on it. I know that cages, feed, and the pet will all be costly, but I'd rather not spend like $80 on a chinchilla. Something exotic would be cool. Any suggestions would be awesome, and I look forward to hearing them!

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  • User Name v2User Name v2 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Have you looked into Sugar Gliders?

    They're adorable, and I hear that they are pretty awesome.

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  • KyleWPetersonKyleWPeterson Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Honestly, I'd get a cat or a dog if I were you. They're a Godsend for people that live alone. They might be a little larger and a little more work than you're used to, but I think they're worth it.

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  • User Name v2User Name v2 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    I don't think a cat or dog would work well, considering he's in a small apartment.

    And here's a picture of a sugar glider, in case you haven't seen one before:

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  • OremLKOremLK Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Cockatiel!

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    Tons of personality, easy and cheap to take care of, and they really bond with you (many cockatiels love you to scratch their heads and want to play with your hair). You might be able to find a normal gray for $50 from a reputable breeder. (Make sure you get hand fed.)

    The major downside, as with any bird, is the noise, but cockatiels aren't as bad as some, in my experience (they chatter a lot less than budgies, and they're not piercingly loud like big parrots). You can shut them up by covering their cage with a sheet, but this is best reserved for night time or unusual circumstances.

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sugar gliders need a huge cage, by the little bit of googling I did. Cats don't need much space, just enough for a litter box, food, and a bedroom sized area to play in. :P

    Rodents... I don't have any experience with those, all I know is that they smell and my cats wanna eat em.

    A dog probably wouldn't be too bad, if you have the time to get them out for exercise.

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  • User Name v2User Name v2 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    Aurin wrote: »
    Sugar gliders need a huge cage, by the little bit of googling I did. Cats don't need much space, just enough for a litter box, food, and a bedroom sized area to play in. :P

    Rodents... I don't have any experience with those, all I know is that they smell and my cats wanna eat em.

    A dog probably wouldn't be too bad, if you have the time to get them out for exercise.

    So what if it needs a huge cage?

    Anyway, since it can glide, when you're home the whole house would be like its cage.

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  • SkitchenSkitchen Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I would definitely get a cat or small dog, but unfortunately, my landlord and I have discussed it and she is very much against the idea of me getting either, but doesn't have a problem with me getting a caged pet.

    Sugar gliders look both sweet and small enough, I am concerned that letting one roam free might lead to a foot-related injury or worse. :(

    I saw a page on hedgehogs, though, and they seem to be relatively little upkeep and just so darn adorable! Has anybody had one before that might be able to share their thoughts?

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  • AurinAurin Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Aurin wrote: »
    Sugar gliders need a huge cage, by the little bit of googling I did. Cats don't need much space, just enough for a litter box, food, and a bedroom sized area to play in. :P

    Rodents... I don't have any experience with those, all I know is that they smell and my cats wanna eat em.

    A dog probably wouldn't be too bad, if you have the time to get them out for exercise.

    So what if it needs a huge cage?

    Anyway, since it can glide, when you're home the whole house would be like its cage.

    The OP said he didn't have a lot of space, so a huge cage would probably be a problem. :P

    They are cute little things though.

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  • Red_CascadeRed_Cascade Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Rats! They can be the cutest most adorable little pets. They really develop personalitlies too as they grow and get to know you, and can also be trained to an extent (come to their names etc).

    If you did go that route though I would recommend getting two (probably girls) so that they have company and somone to play with when you are not around.

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  • EverywhereasignEverywhereasign Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Skitchen wrote: »
    I saw a page on hedgehogs, though, and they seem to be relatively little upkeep and just so darn adorable! Has anybody had one before that might be able to share their thoughts?

    From experience, hedgehogs aren't bad pets, but don't expect much out of them. Many of them don't like being held and do little more then sleep and eat. They aren't typically super active creatures. But I guess the same could be argued about any small cage animal.

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  • SmurphSmurph Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Get a cat, put the litter box in your bathroom. Cats are pretty easy to take care of and don't need a ton of space. Plus they are awesome.

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  • RubickRubick Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Aren't sugar gliders nocturnal? I remember reading somewhere they can cause a lot of noise at night.

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  • GrennGrenn Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Rats! They can be the cutest most adorable little pets. They really develop personalitlies too as they grow and get to know you, and can also be trained to an extent (come to their names etc).

    If you did go that route though I would recommend getting two (probably girls) so that they have company and somone to play with when you are not around.

    I second rats. Awesome, awesome pets and amazing little creatures.

    They can smell a little but there's ways of dealing with that... the worst part is that they don't really live much longer than about 3 years and it is utterly gutting when they snuff it.

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  • 4rch3nemy4rch3nemy Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Definitely cockatiels. T

    hey're extremely personable and love to chill out on shoulders while you do ANYTHING. They also love getting scratched on the back of their neck/head and will beg for it in a way by putting their heads down to get it. They're easy to feed/water/maintain and they will surprise you with how friendly they are. The only downside is the poop. They poop whenever they want so you just have to be on the lookout for it. No biggie though since their poops are wet and easy to soak up with toilet paper. I've trained mine to poop before I let them out of the cage, so even that can be minimized.
    Males will be noisier and learn to imitate, while females won't as much (I have 3 females and only one imitates).

    Like Orem said, get it from a breeder and get a hand fed one and you're golden.

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  • JHunzJHunz Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If you're already considering reptiles, why not get a gecko? They're cute, small, cheap, need only a small glass aquarium and inexpensive food, and they'll climb all over you when they're not sleeping.
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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Geckos are indeed pretty rad. And cute little bastards too.

    You could look into getting a degu. They are cute, and kind of hamsterlike. My wife had one when she was still living on campus, because she and her roommate wanted a pet, and it was the only mammal in the store her roommate wasn't allergic to.

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  • MalkorMalkor Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    From what I've seen, Sugar Gliders are a ton of work, piss everywhere, and bite.

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  • OctoparrotOctoparrot Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
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    Reptiles are pretty awesome. Do a bit of research on the size of the critter you want, and what you're willing to handle food-wise, and you have, like, a billion species you could choose from.

    Personal pros are they rarely poop, so you get that shit timed down and they can be let out to just chill around the house. And they really don't give a damn if you are sometimes too busy to play with them.

    But they thrive on a pretty strict schedule. Lights on/off, when to be fed, etc.

    If you're willing to go for a snake, it'll probably be worth it to check out some ambulatory species.

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  • Mojo_JojoMojo_Jojo We are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourse Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You can't really get one sugar glider. They are really social animals so you need to get a few or they will just get depressed and die.

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  • TopweaselTopweasel Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Geckos man Geckos.

    I have had three geckos, My first one was a $20 Golden Gecko I named Godzilla, Got him early 1999 and he is still among the living. $100 on cage and Litghts, $10 a month in crickets and wax worms $50 a year in cleanup, lights, and ground stuff. This is cheap, you can keep it at any small area in your apartment and if you clean up the cage enough the insect (cricket smell) never becomes an issue. Plus if you get a real hardy one that isn't to sensitive to your touch you can even handle him.

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  • CruixCruix Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I don't know about other reptiles, but when I was growing up I had several Iguanas. They were really cool and quite nice to have.

    As far as sugar gliders go, I'm going to say definitely don't get one until you've read up on them quite a bit. I was really interested in getting a sugar glider after seeing some videos on youtube about them. Then I read about how, yes, they're nocturnal -- but not only are they nocturnal, they are VERY sociable little animals. You think that's a good thing, but sugar gliders will literally die if they don't get enough social time in their day.
    I've read that if you buy one sugar glider you should be able to devote four to six hours to playing with it just to make sure it's okay. If you get two ore more the time drops, but still.

    Plus, sugar gliders are pretty expensive from what I saw.

    Edit: Nevermind about the iguanas, I just went to read about them and apparently they are way more work than I remember. Also, they get huge.

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  • LadyMLadyM Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    How much interaction do you want from your pet? If you want it to be affectionate towards you, I'd suggest a pair of rats. They really are that awesome.

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  • Hobbit0815Hobbit0815 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I advise against sugar gliders, read up on them.. They're really too much work, even though they're cute little buggers.

    My roommate has a pet corn snake, he's adorable. Although, I never really thought about geckos... They seem cool, too. I'm thinking you should either get a reptile or the cockatiel, like someone suggested. I love birds, but I hate their poop.. so.. I will never have another bird in my life. Hah!

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  • LaPuzzaLaPuzza Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Bunny. Adorable, smart, and they housetrain themselves. Honestly. I'd trade my dog to have another dwarf rabbit any day of the week.

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  • Hobbit0815Hobbit0815 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Aha yeah, bunnies too. But if the landlord isn't okay with cats or dogs, doubtful she'd allow a rabbit?

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Grenn wrote: »
    Rats! They can be the cutest most adorable little pets. They really develop personalitlies too as they grow and get to know you, and can also be trained to an extent (come to their names etc).

    If you did go that route though I would recommend getting two (probably girls) so that they have company and somone to play with when you are not around.

    I second rats. Awesome, awesome pets and amazing little creatures.

    They can smell a little but there's ways of dealing with that... the worst part is that they don't really live much longer than about 3 years and it is utterly gutting when they snuff it.

    Thirded for rats, for all the reasons above. They're short lived, but very smart.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If you don't mind the smell (I do, I'd never get one) ferrets are cool. They stink to high heaven and completely fuck with allergies, but they're very fun to play with. A friend of mine had a hedgehog. He went nuts for it, really bonded with it. It's not as playful an animal, though, so it depends on whether you want something that can really play back or not.

    Edit: nevermind on the ferret if you can't have cats or dogs.

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  • LaPuzzaLaPuzza Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Hobbit0815 wrote: »
    Aha yeah, bunnies too. But if the landlord isn't okay with cats or dogs, doubtful she'd allow a rabbit?

    Bunny needs a cage. Most landlords are fine with caged animals. if you decide that your bunny will go "free range" just keep the cage on the floor. I only shut the cage door on my rabbit when I was at work or in bed.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    In case you get a bunny, be aware they love to munch on anything that's available to them. Walmart sells some edible houses that seems to work though.

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  • Hobbit0815Hobbit0815 Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    LaPuzza wrote: »
    Hobbit0815 wrote: »
    Aha yeah, bunnies too. But if the landlord isn't okay with cats or dogs, doubtful she'd allow a rabbit?

    Bunny needs a cage. Most landlords are fine with caged animals. if you decide that your bunny will go "free range" just keep the cage on the floor. I only shut the cage door on my rabbit when I was at work or in bed.

    Well obviously they require a cage. But what happens for the hours the bunny is out running around? I dunno, I just think it wouldn't be much different to the landlord than a cat lazing around and getting into mischief, than a bunny running around and chewing.. electrical wires.. And also, they need a good sized cage too, and he has small apartment.

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  • LaPuzzaLaPuzza Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    My bunny was about 2-3 pounds, and had a cage that was maybe 4'x2'. He didn't mind being left in there for a full day or 2 if we were out of town (didn't freak out on return or have propbelms getting him into a cage). We let him run the living room of our 1000 sq ft apartment - no bedrooms and he didn't go in the kitchen - he hated hard floors. He'd run and jump over and around the living room set.

    Feel free not to mention to the landlord that the bunny is allowed out of its cage.

    They chew things hanging in their way - cords close to walls get left along. Mine never even looked at a lamp cord running on the floor - which is mre than I can say for my dog. Also, bunnies can be trained.

    Dust Bunny used to chew my PS2 controler cord if I left it on the table (cord suspended in his path). If I caught him chewing, I'd clap loudly, which he hated. After I caught him maybe 2 times, I saw him sniffing the cord again. I got ready to clap at him as soon as he chomped it. He opened his mouth, then, mouth still open, looked right at me, looking at him and preparing to clap. He shut his mouth and hopped along his way. Only had one other cord issue, and that was from letting a cord hang right in front of him while he was sitting next to me after we moved into our house.

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  • AdventAdvent Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'd like to second the Iguana if you're aiming for a reptile. Although they have a tendancy to get fairly large. When I had one growing up, he went from a juvenile that could fit in my hand to bigger than my cats. I preffer them because you don't necessarily need to give them live food.

    People tell me great things about rats too. My friends really get attached to theirs. The difficulty is that the breeding populations are prone to tumors. : \

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  • DrakenhawkDrakenhawk Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I'll add to the "No" for the sugar gliders. Adorable, cute, and make awesome noises (chirps, barks, chatter), but they can be expensive, moody, and yes, they bite. My brother got a rescue from an old friend. She bit often (they feed on sap in wild, so will nip looking for food) and really only accepted attention from him. She was an awsome pet, but after she died, he said never again.

    Ferrets are fun, but if you don't clean the bedding often, they can get a bit...pungent.

    Cockatiels are awesome. Cats are good. Rats are good too, though as said, short lived.

    I am currently rocking an apartment with 2 cats. If my younger cat didn't have standard crazy cat personality, I would probally get another cockatiel. My old one used to keep me company during long nights of vanilla WoW chilling on my shoulder.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Since you mention snakes, I take it you're open to a pet you won't be able to cuddle? There's a pretty short list of fish and acquatic invertebrates that can make good pets, but housed alone (with other fish, they tend to interact with tankmates and ignore you except at feeding time) and well maintained, a lot of the big New World cichlids (convicts at the small end, oscars at the big end) are personable, interactive, and some species (especialy oscars, though the tank requirements to keep an adult oscar are probably too much for an apartment) will take to training fairly easily, and many can hand-feed.

    Fancy goldfish (looking at 15-20 gallons, cycled and heavily filtered, to house one long term - not a bowl by any measure) are big, live 20-30 years when properly housed, and aside from cichlids and big puffers, some of the smartest fish in the hobby.

    Puffers are among the most intelligent fish, and all species have an perpetual, absurd grin on their face, but they are difficult to care for and can get expensive to feed. The most commonly sold species are brackish, not fresh or saltwater, but there are freshwater species. All require some degree of specialized care, so experience keeping fish is advised, but not necessary.

    The mean crayfish species, like red swamp crayfish, are easy to feed, will interact with you through the glass (in a claw your eyes out sort of way), and make an unusual ugly pet. Again, since you mention snakes, I'm assuming cute and cuddly aren't requisites here. And if you go really big, like a murray crayfish, everybody who walks in will say, "Holy shit, what the fuck is that thing?" or "I thought you wanted a puppy, did it eat the puppy?"

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  • TrowizillaTrowizilla Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Do keep in mind that any sort of pet requires vet care, and pets outside of the usual cat-or-dog realm generally need an exotics vet, which can be hard to find and expensive.

    Sugar gliders require huuuge amounts of attention and need their diet hand-made; you can't just buy them kibble.

    Any sort of parrot-ish bird lives a very long time. Cockatiels are lovely, but they can easily live for 30 years if you take care of them properly. Budgies aren't quite as long-lived but can easily make it to 15 or 20. Don't get a bird if you're not willing to make a decades-long commitment to an intelligent animal that bonds with you and will frequently self-mutilate if you're not paying it enough attention.

    Fish might be a good idea, as might rats if you're willing to sink large amounts of money into their vet costs. Hamsters are cute but not very interesting; gerbils are a bit more active. Ferrets take about the same amount of time as a dog or a cat, plus they require lots of vet care and need an exotic vet (again, $$$).

    If you go for fish, I suggest bettas as a good starter. They live about 3 years at max. Don't keep them in those ridiculous tiny bowls petstores advertise; they need at least a gallon and will be happier with larger tanks. They actually breathe air via what's called a labyrinth organ so you don't have to worry about oxygenating the water so much, but they either need a cycled tank or water changes on a schedule of once per x weeks where x is the number of gallons in the tank. Give them lots of plants and things to hide in. Silk plants are okay, but don't get plastic as they'll shred their fins. They do have interesting personalities for fish and will grow to recognize their food-giver and do little dances before you feed them, which is quite cute.

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You said you had a snake before, so there wouldn't be any surprises.

    Corn snakes are about the easiest pet to care for I've ever had and doesn't need a lot of attention. You can also leave them for long periods of time without any harm coming to them (Say, if you go for a week long vacation, your snake won't care and won't need someone to come in to feed them). They're also adorable.

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  • LintillaLintilla Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    If you don't mind the smell (I do, I'd never get one) ferrets are cool. They stink to high heaven and completely fuck with allergies, but they're very fun to play with.

    I hate to be that guy but actually, ferret allergies are considered really rare. Most people are allergic to animal dander not the animal in general, and the same oil ferrets secrete that makes them "stink" traps all those flakes of skin and makes the ferret "hypoallergenic."

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  • Last SonLast Son Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Lintilla wrote: »
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    If you don't mind the smell (I do, I'd never get one) ferrets are cool. They stink to high heaven and completely fuck with allergies, but they're very fun to play with.

    I hate to be that guy but actually, ferret allergies are considered really rare. Most people are allergic to animal dander not the animal in general, and the same oil ferrets secrete that makes them "stink" traps all those flakes of skin and makes the ferret "hypoallergenic."

    I don't think this word means what you think it means.

    Also ferrets don't really smell all that bad if you wash them regularly. As a kid we had 3 of them and gave them all a bath on Saturdays, there wasn't a smell at all really except for near their cage.(The ferrets had the run of the house while we were home).

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  • EriosErios Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Note that sugar gliders are nocturnal and LOUD. They bark and can make a sound like a small dog.

    Rats, however, are awesome and fun and friendly and nice. My old rattie would sit on my shoulder and rub against my neck while I wrote papers and surfed the web.

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  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    You know, I never considered rats as good pets, mainly cause the whole image of them littering through trash and being dirty, but all this talk is making me reconsider. How big of a cage do they need?

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