Let's take it in the shorts part 2

DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
edited December 2008 in Social Entropy++
The automotive industry crisis of 2008 is a financial crisis facing primarily the United States automobile manufacturing industry as of December 2008. Other automobile manufacturers, particularly those in Europe are also suffering from the crisis. The Big Three U.S. manufacturers (General Motors, Ford and Chrysler) have indicated that unless additional funding can be obtained over the short to medium term, there is a real danger of one or more companies declaring bankruptcy. As of June 30, 2008, General Motors net worth was negative $59.939 billion.[1]

On December 19, George W. Bush announced that he had approved the bailout plan, which would give loans of $17.4 billion to U.S. automakers GM and Chrysler, stating that under present economic conditions, "allowing the U.S. auto industry to collapse is not a responsible course of action."[2] Bush provided $13.4 billion now, with another $4 billion available in February 2009. Funds would be made available from the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008.[3] General Motors will get $9.4 billion and Chrysler $4 billion.[4] The federal loan would prevent General Motors from going into immediate bankruptcy. The bailout requires both companies to dramatically restructure their operations to demonstrate long-term viability.[3] In February 2009, the Obama administration will be determining the automakers' progress in meeting the conditions of the loans, and then decide whether to supply more government aid or to force automakers to repay the loans and face bankruptcy.[4] The loans would carry an interest rate of 5 percent but may rise to 10 percent if the auto manufacturers default on them
h u g e wiki on the auto crisis

I can't believe there's no bitching about this on the forums. If there is, I certainly can't find it.
GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up. Seems like they might fail anyway.

I'm having a hard time finding info about this on TV or the internet even, aside from the stuff in the wiki.

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  • Stormin JoeStormin Joe Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    too busy talking about cocks to notice

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    Tossrock: Somolia, you know Mogadishu, Blackhawk down?
    Qorzm: I'm sorry, I don't follow hip-hop
  • Zombies Tossed My Salad!Zombies Tossed My Salad! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Car thread?

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  • Sara LynnSara Lynn I can handle myself. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    left pedal is break, right

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    don't have a car, don't care

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    This isn't about genitalia at all.

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  • MarathonMarathon Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    If they go broke do I get a car for free?

    Marathon on
  • Stormin JoeStormin Joe Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Khavall wrote: »
    This isn't about genitalia at all.

    it can be

    Stormin Joe on
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    Tossrock: Somolia, you know Mogadishu, Blackhawk down?
    Qorzm: I'm sorry, I don't follow hip-hop
  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    This is what I get for buying Japanese.

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  • FaricazyFaricazy Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    i highly doubt chrysler will survive

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  • Zombies Tossed My Salad!Zombies Tossed My Salad! Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sara Lynn wrote: »
    left pedal is break, right
    They are both gas

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  • RobchamRobcham The Rabbit King of your pantsRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    I hate driving a stick shift

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  • Stormin JoeStormin Joe Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Robcham wrote: »
    I hate driving a stick shift

    Use the Rod of Power!

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    Tossrock: Somolia, you know Mogadishu, Blackhawk down?
    Qorzm: I'm sorry, I don't follow hip-hop
  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    don't have a car, don't care
    Great story, dude. Keep up the good work.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    My plan for the upcoming country-wide megadepression:

    1.) Stock up on food

    2.) Stock up on shotgun shells

    3.) Barricade myself in the basement

    4.) Don't come out for nothing





    I ain't gonna get trampled in no food riot god damn it.

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  • redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Sara Lynn wrote: »
    left pedal is break, right

    there are probably some jokes to be made here about shoddy construction

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Einhander wrote: »
    My plan for the upcoming country-wide megadepression:

    1.) Stock up on food

    2.) Stock up on shotgun shells

    3.) Barricade myself in the basement

    4.) Don't come out for nothing





    I ain't gonna get trampled in no food riot god damn it.
    Amatuer mistake. You'll come out for a fire. They all come out for a fire.

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  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Robcham wrote: »
    I hate driving a stick shift

    What do you have a Vagina or something.


    No I take that back, my older sister likes stick too.



    What are you a moron.

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  • Stormin JoeStormin Joe Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

    That is a terrible business model butters

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    Tossrock: Somolia, you know Mogadishu, Blackhawk down?
    Qorzm: I'm sorry, I don't follow hip-hop
  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2008
    ahahaha, depression. please.

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    redhead wrote: »
    Sara Lynn wrote: »
    left pedal is break, right

    there are probably some jokes to be made here about shoddy construction

    Or women drivers.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

    That is a terrible business model butters

    thank the japanese

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  • EndomaticEndomatic Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Butters wrote: »
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

    Why is this?

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    don't have a car, don't care
    Great story, dude. Keep up the good work.

    I do my best

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2008
    maple syrup down two points
    hockey up big after quarterly reports


    shoe still stuck in america helps build rally

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    They are in -60 000 000 000 and the executives are still bringing home millions every year

    Put that money directly into small engine design, learn how to fucking make some decent small cars, and then bank bank bank

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  • ZombiemamboZombiemambo Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    already have a car, don't care

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Endomatic wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

    Why is this?

    in short, terrible business model and "ignoring market trend"

    long answer, jews

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    They are in -60 000 000 000 and the executives are still bringing home millions every year

    Put that money directly into small engine design, learn how to fucking make some decent small cars, and then bank bank bank

    ahahahhahahaha

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  • TasteicleTasteicle Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Unions, pensions, credit crash and shifting market needs killed the big three.

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Endomatic wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

    Why is this?

    in short, terrible business model and "ignoring market trend"

    long answer, jews

    Also a build quality they can only get away with in their own country

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  • EinhanderEinhander __BANNED USERS regular
    edited December 2008
    already have a car, don't care

    It doesn't matter whether or not you own a car.

    Sorta matters if you pay taxes.

    Or live in the United States.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Endomatic wrote: »
    Butters wrote: »
    GM and Chrysler seem to have ignored market trends for years and we get to prop their stupid asses up.

    GM's issues have nothing to do with "ingoring market trends" if by that you mean "not selling enough cars." Their problem is no matter how many they sell they still cannot turn a profit.

    Why is this?

    in short, terrible business model and "ignoring market trend"

    long answer, jews

    Also a build quality they can only get away with in their own country

    stop talking now

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2008
    The problem is that GM has 24 fucking 4 door sedans. Sure, some of em are saab or caddys or saturns, but maybe they should cut some of these redundant lines all together.

    And it's not like any of them are manufactured in 'murica anyways.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    yeah well I'm a little busy looking after my own ass so pardon me if I don't shed a tear for poorly managed corporations

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  • TasteicleTasteicle Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Nothing to do with quality.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    robothero wrote: »
    The problem is that GM has 24 fucking 4 door sedans. Sure, some of em are saab or caddys or saturns, but maybe they should cut some of these redundant lines all together.

    And it's not like any of them are manufactured in 'murica anyways.

    many of them are yes

    for the same reason japanese cars are actually made in the states

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  • Penguin IncarnatePenguin Incarnate King of Kafiristan Registered User regular
    edited December 2008
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    They are in -60 000 000 000 and the executives are still bringing home millions every year

    Put that money directly into small engine design, learn how to fucking make some decent small cars, and then bank bank bank

    ahahahhahahaha
    Yeah, we're all aware of The Black Hunter's special brand of. . . special. It's best not to call attention to it.

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  • DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
    edited December 2008
    34 SUVs

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  • The Black HunterThe Black Hunter The key is a minimum of compromise, and a simple, unimpeachable reason to existRegistered User regular
    edited December 2008
    Selling cars has alot to do with build quality and reliability.

    My parents would never own an Australian car, because they simply aren't made as well or as reliably as japanese cars.

    Australian cars sell very very well in Australia, but no other countires want them, because really they are quite sub-par.

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