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Rock Band 2 vs GHWT - School me

LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Games and Technology
I am going to get either Rock Band or Guitar Hero at some point this year, but I am on a bit of a tight budget, any saving is going to be good. I'm be getting it on the 360. I am pretty much set on RB2, but if someone wants to convince me that GHWT is better, feel free.

Now, I have a few specific questions, I didn't think it would fit in the RB thread.

I can get a free set of these drums, and hopefully this bass for free too.

Aside from that, I'm going to need to get a guitar, and if I can't get a free mic, my 360 headset will do for the time being.

Here's the questions:
1. Which is the best guitar? I'd prefer a wireless one. I am under the impression that the general consensus is that the GH ones are much better. At the moment I am considering picking up a Copy of Guitar Hero 3 + Guitar for pretty cheap (£31.50), then selling the game, and effectively getting the guitar for around £15/20.

2. How do cymbals work? I know GHWT has cymbals too, and that RB2 is compatible with them, but I don't know what that means.

3. How does that saving of RB1 songs on the 360 work. Can I just borrow a friends disc, and save all the RB1 songs? I know it costs 400 MS Points, but how much hard drive space does it take up, I only have a 20gb drive.

4. Do wireless guitars use the 360's built in wireless, or do I have to use a dongle? If I have tp use a dongle, am I right in thinking you can use a USB hub for them?

5. Apart from track list, and the Guitar Hero games being ugly as hell, what are the main differences between the two series. Any subtle things that could impact which is the best for me?

I may add more stuff as I think of it.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Not to be a wet blanket, but if you're on such a tight budget, are you sure an expensive plastic-instrumenty game with the further lure of tons of songs as DLC is a wise investment in the first place?

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    LewieP wrote: »
    I am going to get either Rock Band or Guitar Hero at some point this year, but I am on a bit of a tight budget, any saving is going to be good. I'm be getting it on the 360. I am pretty much set on RB2, but if someone wants to convince me that GHWT is better, feel free.

    Now, I have a few specific questions, I didn't think it would fit in the RB thread.

    I can get a free set of these drums, and hopefully this bass for free too.

    Aside from that, I'm going to need to get a guitar, and if I can't get a free mic, my 360 headset will do for the time being.

    Here's the questions:
    1. Which is the best guitar? I'd prefer a wireless one. I am under the impression that the general consensus is that the GH ones are much better. At the moment I am considering picking up a Copy of Guitar Hero 3 + Guitar for pretty cheap (£31.50), then selling the game, and effectively getting the guitar for around £15/20.

    2. How do cymbals work? I know GHWT has cymbals too, and that RB2 is compatible with them, but I don't know what that means.

    3. How does that saving of RB1 songs on the 360 work. Can I just borrow a friends disc, and save all the RB1 songs? I know it costs 400 MS Points, but how much hard drive space does it take up, I only have a 20gb drive.

    4. Do wireless guitars use the 360's built in wireless, or do I have to use a dongle? If I have tp use a dongle, am I right in thinking you can use a USB hub for them?

    5. Apart from track list, and the Guitar Hero games being ugly as hell, what are the main differences between the two series. Any subtle things that could impact which is the best for me?

    I may add more stuff as I think of it.

    1. The GH3 Les Pauls and GHWT guitars are your best bet. Your plan of buying GH3 and selling the game is solid. The guitar may have a problem with the connector pins between the neck and the body, but some people don't have this problem, and it's fixable with a little home modification.

    2. Cymbals just replace existing buttons. They're partly there for show, partly there if you want to make the experience more "realistic". I personally think they're superfluous.

    3. Yep, you can borrow a friend's disc. $5 for the license fee, and the download takes up about 4-and-a-half gigs, I believe. However, when you've finished you can delete the songs that you don't want from the first game.

    4. Wireless guitars on 360 use the 360 technology. No dongle required.

    5. The Rock Band charting is, subjectively, more fun. Notecharts are almost always easier than their GH counterpart, though they're more accurate to what is actually being played rather than artificially pumping up difficulty. GHWT is better than GH3 in this regard, but is not matched up to RB2 yet.

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    korodullin wrote: »
    Not to be a wet blanket, but if you're on such a tight budget, are you sure an expensive plastic-instrumenty game with the further lure of tons of songs as DLC is a wise investment in the first place?

    Oh, not that tight. I just mean, I definately can afford it, I just want to spend as little as possible. Since I can get the free drums and bass, I'm just thinking about the cheapest way to get the best full band set. £15/20 for a guitar, and then £35/40 for the game sounds pretty good to me.

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  • BlindPsychicBlindPsychic Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    1. Meh, if you want cheap and reliable, get the Xplorer. If you're-a-willing to pay, get RB2 strat. Especially if you're playing in HD.
    2. They're superfluous addons for RB, part of GH set.
    3. beat'd
    4. All the official wireless use the Xbox wireless.
    5. Rock Band 2.

    Also, yeah, this might not be a wise idea if you wanna do it cheap.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Besides the track list and the artistic design, something to think about is GH's song creation mode. I don't really know anything about it, but I guess it's a big deal to some people. I'd also look at what's available for DLC - RB has a pretty solid lead in that respect, IIRC. Other than that, if you can get to a Best Buy or something and play each one on the setups they sometimes have there, just see which one you like better. Subjectively, I trust Harmonix's musicianship and ability to make a fun and accurate notechart more than I do Neversoft (GH3 was not impressive to me) - that and the DLC library will make RB2 my choice when it comes time for me to get one, unless something huge happens to change my mind.

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  • DaedalusDaedalus Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    LewieP wrote: »
    2. How do cymbals work? I know GHWT has cymbals too, and that RB2 is compatible with them, but I don't know what that means.

    Okay, this is going to be a long explanation, so bear with me:

    Rock Band's drums work like this: there are four pads: a red one, a yellow one, a blue one, and a green one. In-game, the red pad is always the snare drum, the yellow pad is sometimes a cymbal and sometimes a tom, the blue pad is sometimes a cymbal and sometimes a tom, and the green pad is pretty much always the crash cymbal but sometimes acts as the floor tom.

    You can buy add-on cymbals that plug into ports for the yellow, blue, or green pads, and these just act as pads when hit. The game doesn't really differentiate, they're completely optional, and have no effect on gameplay. (But they're really fun to use.)

    Guitar Hero's drums work like this: There are three pads: a red one, a blue one, and a green one, and two cymbals: a yellow one and an orange one. The red pad is always the snare drum, and the blue and green pads are always toms. The yellow and orange cymbals are always cymbals.

    Seems pretty simple, though I'm told that having only two possible cymbals causes the note tracks to suffer (but I don't drum at a high enough difficulty level to really tell).

    When you plug a GHWT drumset into Rock Band, the red, yellow, green, and blue notes map to the proper pads and the orange cymbal just sits there doing nothing. (This means, of course, that sometimes you'll be hitting the yellow cymbal and it'll sound like a tom, but whatever.)

    When you plug a RB2 drumset into GHWT, the orange cymbal and green pad get merged, basically. At least, I think that's the way it usually works; I haven't played much GHWT. Regardless, the point is you have a Rock Band style, four column note chart, regardless of whether or not you have the RB2 cymbals plugged in.

    edit: and I'd like to chime in on this: the X-Plorer guitar controller can be found dirt cheap and works every time, like Colt 45.

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