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The government wants to kill asthmatics

jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
edited January 2009 in Debate and/or Discourse
I've had asthma for roughly 15 years now, I always hoped I'd grow out of it, but I never did. I'm pretty fortunate that I'm able to keep it in check with a few doses of Advair each day and my Albuterol as needed.

It seemed bad enough that the government stepped in and forced drug companies to redesign our inhalers to use the HFA delivery system, removing the "ozone killing" CFCs. Most asthmatics I talked to agree, they simply are not as effective as the old inhalers.

Fast forward to today. The cold I've had for the last week has decided to move south into my chest for the winter. Bronchitis isn't the end of the world generally. Robitussin and the breathing machine do a pretty good job of relieving the congestion and allowing me to breathe (I really like to breathe you know). I hadn't used my machine in a while, and when I broke it out I realized I needed a new nebulizer and mouthpiece.

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Nothing to fancy really. A quick trip over to Walgreen's, where they inform me that according to federal law you now have to have a prescription to buy one. A three dollar mouthpiece and rubber tube. One that has saved my life on several occasions. I completely understand though. When I was done restoring my ability to breathe, I was going to use it to make crystal meth while I video taped myself molesting children where upon I planned to distribute those tapes to terrorists.

Seriously guys. Seriously.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Really? We bought one for our son a couple years ago. When was this law passed?

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  • SaammielSaammiel Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Really? We bought one for our son a couple years ago. When was this law passed?

    Probably one of the periodic updates used to shore up the War on Drugs. Gotta keep up with those crazy meth heads and their innovation.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    It could come in quite handy in the creation of a bong.

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    an_alt wrote: »
    It could come in quite handy in the creation of a bong.

    So could about a dozen other things I've got around my apartment, I'm guessing. The War on (Some) Drugs is really the most worthless thing the government is wasting time and tax dollars on.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    an_alt wrote: »
    It could come in quite handy in the creation of a bong.

    If that's grounds for making something illegal we need to go ahead and make it a federal offense to sell anything in 2-litre bottles.

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  • yalborapyalborap Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    an_alt wrote: »
    It could come in quite handy in the creation of a bong.

    If that's grounds for making something illegal we need to go ahead and make it a federal offense to sell anything in 2-litre bottles.

    I once saw a guide on making a bong out of a motherfucking apple.

    Or maybe it was just a simpler, more direct pipey thingy.

    Point is, device to smoke marijuana, out of an apple.

    You don't stop something when the people doing it can accomplish what they're doing with FRUIT. It doesn't work that way!

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    edited January 2009
    That connects to a nebulizer machine, right? I'm surprised they didn't just classify the mouthpiece and tubing as 'replacement parts' and only require a prescription for the machine.

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  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    yalborap wrote: »
    an_alt wrote: »
    It could come in quite handy in the creation of a bong.

    If that's grounds for making something illegal we need to go ahead and make it a federal offense to sell anything in 2-litre bottles.

    I once saw a guide on making a bong out of a motherfucking apple.

    Or maybe it was just a simpler, more direct pipey thingy.

    Point is, device to smoke marijuana, out of an apple.

    You don't stop something when the people doing it can accomplish what they're doing with FRUIT. It doesn't work that way!

    I smoke out of apple's all the time. They are porous so the smoke basically fills the apple as its being smoked. Then you can eat it and it tastes awesome.


    edit: Seriously Macgyver smoking is easy. You could smoke weed out of the ground if you really wanted to.

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  • an_altan_alt Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    an_alt wrote: »
    It could come in quite handy in the creation of a bong.

    If that's grounds for making something illegal we need to go ahead and make it a federal offense to sell anything in 2-litre bottles.

    Apparently I have a knack for making myself misunderstood this afternoon. I was just commenting that it would be great for making a bong, not that it should be illegal.

    Also, if I remember correctly from my high school days, a glass 26oz booze bottle opened with a dremel is far superior to a 2L pop bottle.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

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  • SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

    I guess if the alternative is dying, I'd say go for it.

    I mean, I can't buy fucking Sudefed... why should he be able to buy a breathing aparatus?

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?
    Assuming one can afford the doctor's fee, get transport, time off work, etc. Truly unneccessary prescription status doesn't do anything beyond create a barrier to care for the poor, the young, and the disabled.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Sentry wrote: »
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

    I guess if the alternative is dying, I'd say go for it.

    I mean, I can't buy fucking Sudefed... why should he be able to buy a breathing aparatus?

    I can buy Sudafed. The kind with pseudoephedrine, even. I don't want to because I like medicine that actually works, but I can. Why can't you?

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    edited January 2009
    Sentry wrote: »
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

    I guess if the alternative is dying, I'd say go for it.

    I mean, I can't buy fucking Sudefed... why should he be able to buy a breathing aparatus?

    You should at least be able to buy replacement tubing and mouthpieces for a breathing apparatus. (And, frankly, I wonder if you normally can and somebody at Walgreens was just being overly tight-assed about it.)

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  • AphostileAphostile San Francisco, CARegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Can't sell insulin syringes without proof of need for actual insulin, either, though, that one makes a bit more sense.

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  • HonkHonk Honk is this poster. Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Wow this is strange. I mean people make pipes out of potatoes to, just really really strange legislation.

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  • Salvation122Salvation122 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    You can probably just call your doctor and have them send Walgreens a prescription for nothing.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

    Because he gets the item he needs?

    I didn't say it made sense. However, he needs the item, so take the necessary actions to get it.

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    edited January 2009
    Aphostile wrote: »
    Can't sell insulin syringes without proof of need for actual insulin, either, though, that one makes a bit more sense.

    That's covered under state law, not federal.

    Some of the more liberal states have made needles available without a prescription to reduce HIV transmission among heroin addicts.

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  • Simon MoonSimon Moon Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    My wife works at Walgreen's and says this is the first she's heard of it. Anyone have a particular federal law to reference?

    edit: She just called her boss, and, if it's true, the pharmacy manager doesn't know about it. However, if you were trying to use insurance to pay, you do need a scrip for that. Also, she wants to apologize that you apparently ran into a misinformed pharmacy technician who denied you something you needed, and should have been able to obtain.

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

    Because he gets the item he needs?

    I didn't say it made sense. However, he needs the item, so take the necessary actions to get it.

    That's a good solution to this crisis.

    I don't think this is an H/A thread though.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Go to a doctor and get a prescription?

    So wait a couple days and spend a bunch of extra money for something that has no real reason to be illegal in the first place? In what way does that make any sense?

    Because he gets the item he needs?

    I didn't say it made sense. However, he needs the item, so take the necessary actions to get it.

    The actions aren't actually necessary, though. There's no coherent reason to require them. I'm sure he already figured out that he can go get a prescription if he needs something that the store demands a prescription to sell, I just assumed you were actually contributing to the discourse.

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  • MedopineMedopine __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    This thread title is hilarious.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I'm gonna have to agree with that, it is pretty fucking retarded. We really need to see what the law actually states about that shit. If I was the OP I would have demanded to know what law this was, etc., essentially demanding all information they have regarding their fucking retarded law in the store itself.

    I can't really think of an intelligent reason for it to require a prescription.

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  • CrayonCrayon Sleeps in the wrong bed. TejasRegistered User regular
    edited January 2009
    War implies it has an ending. There is no war on drugs.

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    edited January 2009
    Doesn't Walgreens's computer system flag the legal status of any drugs or devices?

    It seems like it might be bad practice for a national chain to rely on the knowledge and memory of pharmacy technicians if they can avoid it.

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  • ViolentChemistryViolentChemistry __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2009
    That's the whole point of declaring war on abstract concepts. You have an unending excuse to make awful legislation and procure lots of money and by just taking the money and throwing it around and making laws that don't do anything about the alleged problem you get to tell your constituents that you're saving them from an invisible enemy that wants to rape them to death.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Seems like the type of thing that could be answered by a phonecall to Walgreen's head office / customer service department.

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    edited January 2009
    Al_wat wrote: »
    Seems like the type of thing that could be answered by a phonecall to Walgreen's head office / customer service department.

    :^:

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  • DalbozDalboz Resident Puppy Eater Right behind you...Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Crayon wrote: »
    War implies it has an ending. There is no war on drugs.

    That's why it's called a war. The War on (Some) Drugs is called as such because they want to imply that they can actually win it as long legislation and money keeps getting funneled towards it. Same with the War on Terror.

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  • jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    I did call the Doctor, and they did call it in for me. I also emailed a pharmacist friend of mine, he can confirm that a prescription is needed.

    And seriously, an apple?

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  • NocturneNocturne Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    jhunter46 wrote: »
    I did call the Doctor, and they did call it in for me. I also emailed a pharmacist friend of mine, he can confirm that a prescription is needed.

    And seriously, an apple?

    The apple works really well actually.

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  • jhunter46jhunter46 Registered User regular
    edited January 2009
    Nocturne wrote: »
    jhunter46 wrote: »
    I did call the Doctor, and they did call it in for me. I also emailed a pharmacist friend of mine, he can confirm that a prescription is needed.

    And seriously, an apple?

    The apple works really well actually.

    You crazy kids.

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